Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-31 Thread Artem Korzhimanov
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots is about bots in general,
regardless of their actual implementation. However, it, of course, contains
link to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Creating_a_bot (in See
also section) which in turn contains quite detailed description of
pywikibot (and some others platforms as well).

I don't think that Wikidata:Bots needs to have detailed description of how
to create bot, this page is for ordinary users and not for botmakers.
However, it would be probably a good idea to make a section with brief
description where to look for information about creating bots.

Best regards,
Artem.

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2014-08-31 1:07 GMT+04:00 Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl:

  Benjamin Good schreef op 29-8-2014 19:39:

 It does, but only on the very bottom with a see also.

 Hmm, that doesn't look very good. Pywikibot has full Wikidata support and
 contains several scripts you can run without writing a line of python, see
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Scripts#Wikidata

 Maybe we should update the bots page to make it clearer and easier to find.

 Maarten


  Somehow I ended up on
 https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata
  first.

  which is two years out of date and very similarly named..
 -ben



 On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Derric Atzrott 
 datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:

  There is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots which is the
  first hit on Google for me when searching for bots wikidata. Maybe
  it needs to be linked more on the site itself though.

  I may just be blind, but it actually doesn't look like that page
 mentions pywikibot anywhere.  I wonder if he may have found that
 page, but it didn't answer all of the questions he had?

 Thank you,
 Derric Atzrott


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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-30 Thread Maarten Dammers

Benjamin Good schreef op 29-8-2014 19:39:

It does, but only on the very bottom with a see also.
Hmm, that doesn't look very good. Pywikibot has full Wikidata support 
and contains several scripts you can run without writing a line of 
python, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Scripts#Wikidata


Maybe we should update the bots page to make it clearer and easier to find.

Maarten


Somehow I ended up on
https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata
first.

which is two years out of date and very similarly named..
-ben



On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Derric Atzrott 
datzr...@alizeepathology.com mailto:datzr...@alizeepathology.com 
wrote:


 There is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots which is the
 first hit on Google for me when searching for bots wikidata. Maybe
 it needs to be linked more on the site itself though.

I may just be blind, but it actually doesn't look like that page
mentions pywikibot anywhere.  I wonder if he may have found that
page, but it didn't answer all of the questions he had?

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott


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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Maarten Dammers

Don't use compat, use core.

Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 29-8-2014 2:27:

Hey,
It's pywikibot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PWB
Both branches support Wikidata

Best

On 8/29/14, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote:

Which python framework should a new developer use to make a wikidata
editing bot?

thanks
-Ben






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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Yes, Core has better support

Best

On 8/29/14, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote:
 Don't use compat, use core.

 Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 29-8-2014 2:27:
 Hey,
 It's pywikibot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PWB
 Both branches support Wikidata

 Best

 On 8/29/14, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which python framework should a new developer use to make a wikidata
 editing bot?

 thanks
 -Ben




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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Benjamin Good
Thanks very much.  Given the importance of bots in wikidata, it would be
great if this key nugget of information could somehow be made obvious to
developers looking at the wikidata site.  I asked after me and several
other folks did a fair amount of failed digging.  Not sure the best place
to put it?

cheers
-Ben


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, Core has better support

 Best

 On 8/29/14, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote:
  Don't use compat, use core.
 
  Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 29-8-2014 2:27:
  Hey,
  It's pywikibot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PWB
  Both branches support Wikidata
 
  Best
 
  On 8/29/14, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote:
  Which python framework should a new developer use to make a wikidata
  editing bot?
 
  thanks
  -Ben
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks very much.  Given the importance of bots in wikidata, it would be
 great if this key nugget of information could somehow be made obvious to
 developers looking at the wikidata site.  I asked after me and several other
 folks did a fair amount of failed digging.  Not sure the best place to put
 it?

There is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots which is the
first hit on Google for me when searching for bots wikidata. Maybe
it needs to be linked more on the site itself though.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Derric Atzrott
 There is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots which is the
 first hit on Google for me when searching for bots wikidata. Maybe
 it needs to be linked more on the site itself though.

I may just be blind, but it actually doesn't look like that page
mentions pywikibot anywhere.  I wonder if he may have found that
page, but it didn't answer all of the questions he had?

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott


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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-29 Thread Benjamin Good
It does, but only on the very bottom with a see also.

Somehow I ended up on
https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata
first.

which is two years out of date and very similarly named..
-ben



On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Derric Atzrott 
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:

  There is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots which is the
  first hit on Google for me when searching for bots wikidata. Maybe
  it needs to be linked more on the site itself though.

 I may just be blind, but it actually doesn't look like that page
 mentions pywikibot anywhere.  I wonder if he may have found that
 page, but it didn't answer all of the questions he had?

 Thank you,
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Python bot framework for wikidata

2014-08-28 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Hey,
It's pywikibot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PWB
Both branches support Wikidata

Best

On 8/29/14, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which python framework should a new developer use to make a wikidata
 editing bot?

 thanks
 -Ben



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