Re: [Wikidata-l] Translations on Meta
On 30 May 2012 02:13, Bináris wrote: > Hi folks, > > I made some effort to draft Wikidata in Hungarian Wikipedia. Although it > is not quite up-to-date, but is a useful overview for Hungarian language > community. As far as I remember, this was the first national language > article on Wikidata except German, preceeding the current system. I created > a soft redirect to it on Meta which was eradicated by Fuzzybot ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%2Fhu&diff=3728047&oldid=3416903) > and now I cannot edit it at all. I don't want to translate that whole stuff > from week to week again, and seemingly nobody else does it, but could we > get back the link to huwiki please? I think a long English text that is > identical to the English version and very-very up-to-date and meanwhile > states that it *is* the Hungarian version is much less useful for > Hungarian speakers than a link to the Hungarian article that backlinks to > the original one for those who want to read the current version in English. > > This solution is very uniform and easy to handle by bot and very > aggressive -- whoever made it had no regard on previous content and I am > really disappointed to face this. So what is the way to have at least a > sentence on top of this nice text that leads to the useful version and will > not be ruined by the bot again and again? > > -- > Bináris > Hi! I've done a very dirty hack on the page to get the interwiki redirect back, although I agree it looks horrible and there's no adequate solution for it at the moment. I couldn't just create empty paragraphs so I had to put . Unfortunately if the page is updated and marked for translation again then this will revert - this needs discussion with the Localisation team. -- Thehelpfulone http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Translations on Meta
2012/5/30 Thehelpfulone > > Hi! I've done a very dirty hack on the page to get the interwiki redirect > back, although I agree it looks horrible and there's no adequate solution > for it at the moment. I couldn't just create empty paragraphs so I had to > put . Unfortunately if the page is updated and marked for > translation again then this will revert - this needs discussion with the > Localisation team. > Yes, that's what I don't want to accept. :-( Thanks anyway! I will perhaps set a contrabot to revert destructions by Fuzzybot. :-) -- Bináris ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Translations on Meta
Bináris > I created a soft redirect to it on Meta which was eradicated by Fuzzybot (...) Thehelpfulone >> Hi! I've done a very dirty hack on the page to get the interwiki redirect (...) Bináris >>> Yes, that's what I don't want to accept. :-( Thanks anyway! (...) Bináris, I would like to advice you against a translation solution based in a soft redirect to a Wikipedia page. That way, you lose the advantages of using the translation tool on Meta, you break the uniformity used by the rest of languages, you are more exposed to that Wikipedia page becoming outdated, and you complicate things a lot for the rest of the Wikimedia projects in Hungarian, as they can feel that information isn't suitable for them when actually it is, or even that they've been excluded. It's just my personal opinion, of course, by I'm really convinced that it's a bad idea in the long term. ** José Emilio Mori Recio - http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:-jem- ** *Administrador Informático del Arzobispado de Valladolid * ** Bibliotecario de Wikipedia en español - Promotor de Wikimedia España ** Español: La información contenida en este e-mail es confidencial y va dirigida únicamente al receptor que aparece como destinatario. Si ha recibido este e-mail por error, por favor, notifíquenoslo inmediatamente y bórrelo de su sistema. Por favor, en tal caso, no lo copie ni lo use para ningún propósito, ni revele sus contenidos a ninguna persona ni lo almacene ni copie esta información en ningún medio. English: This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
