Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me?
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ramakrishnan, Thank you for your kind offer. My hope is that interested professors like yourself would develop some materials on Wikieducator to walk students through the basics of statistical analysis. If I can get permission (a Creative Commons license on a particular book) I will create a digital statistics text using current software in which every math statement is executable, like the algebra book I have been working on. http://booki.treehouse.su/algebra-an-algorithmic-treatment/_v/1.0/edit/ The point of the book was to teach students how to write their own statistics routines, and not be dependent on canned software. Eventually there will be enough material on the site so that you could choose a set from Texas (7 specimens came in the post today) and a set from Alaska (I have 6) and use the data for a t-test. I have 10 from the Northeast US and more than that from the West. Alternatively one could choose a series from a range of latitudes to run a regression. Another way to illustrate regression would be to ignore latitude and simply measure length and width from a series of skulls and regress one against the other. It has been my experience that simply providing data to biology students falls flat. They are happier if they collect their own data. In my own course I can bring out 30 skulls and calipers to let them measure. But I suspect that few professors have a box of skulls in their lab...even fewer high school teachers have such a strange resource. That was the basis for the idea. When my students return in September we will photograph more skulls and upload them. This is actually a common research method; scientists usually do this by visiting museum collections; I think the photographic approach is fairly uncommon. It is very common in some kinds of archaeology, including 3-D images of cuneiform tablets, Mayan monuments, and other artifacts. A professor of the History of Mathematics once told our college math club that after a while you can get to recognize individual handwriting in Babylonian. Computational linguistics is full of statistical models. I hope I can convince a few teachers or scientists to make measurements from the existing photographs to see how this works. We should be able to get the same measurement for length from the left side and the right side of the same skull. Width should be the same on the top and bottom views. Different teachers should arrive at the same number. Also I want to make sure that the instructions are intelligible. I have a long-term plan to create materials for teaching statistics based on the century and a half of records of many major sports, including baseball, soccer, cricket, and so on, and of chess, go, and other mind games. Cheers, Declan -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me?
Hi Declan, I'm trying to understand what you have asked for . I am a post graduate in Zoology too but I have zero experience in this field :).I can understand these anyway.I'd like to help you by following your request.But do you actually need us to take a print out copy of the picture and measure the length and width ? It would be so kind of you if you could explain and clarify this Thanks in advance Best Regards Balqis Thaahaveettil On 5/12/12, Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Don we are hoping to get a few measurements to ground truth the technique. Cheers Declan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me?
Hi, Declan, Sounds like a great idea for my environmental science students. Unfortunately, I won't be able to do it until next month as we are on our summer break. But we will still give it a try. Cheers, John br/http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWSbr/http://johnsearth.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me? To: WikiEducator wikieducator@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 9:49 PM Thanks Don we are hoping to get a few measurements to ground truth the technique. Cheers Declan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me?
Hi Declan , I just saw all the details given by you in the home page itself..So I'll try to check it out very soon myself and will ask my students too.This is indeed a very interesting activity for all those who like biology Best Regards Balqis On 5/12/12, john stampe jwsta...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Declan, Sounds like a great idea for my environmental science students. Unfortunately, I won't be able to do it until next month as we are on our summer break. But we will still give it a try. Cheers, John br/http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWSbr/http://johnsearth.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me? To: WikiEducator wikieducator@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 9:49 PM Thanks Don we are hoping to get a few measurements to ground truth the technique. Cheers Declan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Can you test drive an idea for me?
13-05-12 Dear Declan, Myself K.S.Ramakrishnan, Assistant Professor, TNOU. I had gone through your postings, and for proving the hypothesis, you may use either 't' test or ANOVA or regression. In Regression, it is in the equation form with Beta coefficients. All are more or less same. If only two groups (Coyotes from North and South) you may use 't' test. If you would like to test Coyotes of North, South, West, etc you may go for ANOVA. If you wish, once all the measurements are done, if you wish, I may help to put all the data into Statistics and test the hypothesis by suitable statistical techniques. With Regards K.S.Ramakrishnan India On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Declan declanjmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Another idea that occurred to me was to use the measurements for statistical exercises: regression; T-tests; that sort of thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
