Re: [WikiEN-l] Why infoboxes are good

2009-02-05 Thread Charlotte Webb
On 2/4/09, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 For anyone interested in this topic, have a look at Freebase:
 http://www.freebase.com/

For anyone interested in freebasing, please revert as vandalism any
attempt to remove this tacky infobox:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Westroads_Mall_shootingdiff=prevoldid=176405577

There are a few others like it, but most infoboxes are helpful.

—C.W.

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[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia, the overly standarised Encyclopedia you wouldn't dare edit

2009-02-05 Thread White Cat
I am a bit weary about the over standardization of the site. There seems to
be a one correct version philosophy. I was hoping it to self-destruct but
it seems like that aint gonna happen.

We are now forced to use US style dates... Thus it is the American
Encyclopedia internationals (non USians) should feel uncomfortable in
visiting let alone editing.
We are now forced to use a certain specific template when an alternate is
available... Self righteous people will deprecate the other one without even
bothering to discuss...
We are now forced to not link to dates on list articles...
There are tens of other similar changes.

Even more trivial issues are dictated by either a guideline or a
wikiproject. Are we a bureaucracy now?

In the past we had multiple correct ways. For example the use of ISO dates
(aka [[-mm-dd]] dates) were encouraged. Users could alter their settings
to display the dates in any way they please. The ISO dates were drafted as a
compromise to the international versus US date war. Now US dates are hard
coded. You do not get to alter it.

The site is becoming increasingly hostile.

Oh and yes I know this mailinglist post will most certainly not fix
anything. There isn't a better median though.
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia, the overly standarised Encyclopedia you wouldn't dare edit

2009-02-05 Thread Brian
For whatever it's worth, Wikipedia has become a complex and byzantine
bureaucracy...it's a maze of process and rules and editors that never get
tired of enforcing either. It'll never happen but we should start kicking
people out of project space. 

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Subject: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia, the overly standarised Encyclopedia you
wouldn't dare edit

I am a bit weary about the over standardization of the site. There seems to
be a one correct version philosophy. I was hoping it to self-destruct but
it seems like that aint gonna happen.

We are now forced to use US style dates... Thus it is the American
Encyclopedia internationals (non USians) should feel uncomfortable in
visiting let alone editing.
We are now forced to use a certain specific template when an alternate is
available... Self righteous people will deprecate the other one without even
bothering to discuss...
We are now forced to not link to dates on list articles...
There are tens of other similar changes.

Even more trivial issues are dictated by either a guideline or a
wikiproject. Are we a bureaucracy now?

In the past we had multiple correct ways. For example the use of ISO dates
(aka [[-mm-dd]] dates) were encouraged. Users could alter their settings
to display the dates in any way they please. The ISO dates were drafted as a
compromise to the international versus US date war. Now US dates are hard
coded. You do not get to alter it.

The site is becoming increasingly hostile.

Oh and yes I know this mailinglist post will most certainly not fix
anything. There isn't a better median though.
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