[WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread Charles Matthews
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/18/conservatives-hid-past-european-ally

 From today's Observer, re [[Michal Kaminski]]. What do we know about 
this, and was it spin or BLP cleanup?

Charles


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread geni
2009/10/18 Charles Matthews :
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/18/conservatives-hid-past-european-ally
>
>  From today's Observer, re [[Michal Kaminski]]. What do we know about
> this, and was it spin or BLP cleanup?
>
> Charles

Policy wise it was acceptable BLP cleanup (the information was true
but uncited). Practically I doubt anyone at the house of commons
spends their time fixing BLP issues and just happened to stumble
across a random polish politician. The information that he was a
National Revival of Poland member is back in the article with
citations and explanations.


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geni

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[WikiEN-l] Can sweet reason still work on en:wp? Occasionally.

2009-10-18 Thread David Gerard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Colorado_balloon_incident

Cheers to Bigtimepeace for this one. Read the detailed explanation.


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread Charles Matthews
geni wrote:
> 2009/10/18 Charles Matthews :
>   
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/18/conservatives-hid-past-european-ally
>>
>>  From today's Observer, re [[Michal Kaminski]]. What do we know about
>> this, and was it spin or BLP cleanup?
>>
>> Charles
>> 
>
> Policy wise it was acceptable BLP cleanup (the information was true
> but uncited). Practically I doubt anyone at the house of commons
> spends their time fixing BLP issues and just happened to stumble
> across a random polish politician. The information that he was a
> National Revival of Poland member is back in the article with
> citations and explanations.
>
>
>   
And when later sthe tory says "The changes – designed to portray 
[Edward] McMillan-Scott as a europhile – were made from a computer with 
an internet IP address named "Strasburg" ", what do they mean? They mean 
there was an account named "Strasburg", would be the simple 
interpretation. (And this might be another subediting gremlin.) There is 
an implied link between the two editors, but "we couldn't possibly 
comment", I guess.

Charles


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Charles Matthews
 wrote:
> geni wrote:
>> 2009/10/18 Charles Matthews :
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/18/conservatives-hid-past-european-ally
>>>
>>>  From today's Observer, re [[Michal Kaminski]]. What do we know about
>>> this, and was it spin or BLP cleanup?
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>
>> Policy wise it was acceptable BLP cleanup (the information was true
>> but uncited). Practically I doubt anyone at the house of commons
>> spends their time fixing BLP issues and just happened to stumble
>> across a random polish politician. The information that he was a
>> National Revival of Poland member is back in the article with
>> citations and explanations.
>>
>>
>>
> And when later sthe tory says "The changes – designed to portray
> [Edward] McMillan-Scott as a europhile – were made from a computer with
> an internet IP address named "Strasburg" ", what do they mean? They mean
> there was an account named "Strasburg", would be the simple
> interpretation. (And this might be another subediting gremlin.) There is
> an implied link between the two editors, but "we couldn't possibly
> comment", I guess.
>
> Charles

Obviously they mean User:Strasburg, as he has 5 edits to [[Michał Kamiński]].

-- 
gwern

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Gwern Branwen  wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Charles Matthews
>  wrote:
> > And when later sthe tory says "The changes – designed to portray
> > [Edward] McMillan-Scott as a europhile – were made from a computer with
> > an internet IP address named "Strasburg" ", what do they mean? They mean
> > there was an account named "Strasburg", would be the simple
> > interpretation. (And this might be another subediting gremlin.) There is
> > an implied link between the two editors, but "we couldn't possibly
> > comment", I guess.
>
> Obviously they mean User:Strasburg, as he has 5 edits to [[Michał
> Kamiński]].
>

But note also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/136.173.162.144 which is
registered to the European Parliament in Luxembourg and has a lot of
contributions to articles on current British MEPs - including blanking
sections of Edward McMillan-Scott's biography:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_McMillan-Scott&diff=prev&oldid=302006604

-- 
Sam Blacketer
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