Re: [WikiEN-l] WYSIWTF
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Force-reload, go to an article, and you'll see a new WYSIWTF tab (I trust you can decipher the acronym ;-) Hi Magnus, I'm not getting an extra tab. Perhaps I've done something stupid, but I stuck the above code in vector.js, reloaded, nothing. Same in Chrome, FF, Opera. What simple thing am I missing? Not sure - works for me. Have a look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/vector.js Maybe some other script in your vector.js dies before it gets to the include point? If so, try moving the lines to the top of vector.js. Also, it does only work in actual articles :-) Update : Wikilinks are now converted to a links, images are ignored for now. Magnus ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WYSIWTF
Ok, I got it - there were some spurious blank lines. Ok, um, it does what you said it does :) Now, how to make this a compelling demonstration that this is _the way foward_? Steve On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Force-reload, go to an article, and you'll see a new WYSIWTF tab (I trust you can decipher the acronym ;-) Hi Magnus, I'm not getting an extra tab. Perhaps I've done something stupid, but I stuck the above code in vector.js, reloaded, nothing. Same in Chrome, FF, Opera. What simple thing am I missing? Not sure - works for me. Have a look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/vector.js Maybe some other script in your vector.js dies before it gets to the include point? If so, try moving the lines to the top of vector.js. Cheers, Magnus ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WYSIWTF
I see three parts that will be required for a fully functional demo: 1. Conversion of wikitext into HTMLized code as input for a HTML editor 2. A (patched) HTML WYSIWYG editor that takes the code from #1 as input 3. A wikitext generator, running on the saved HTML from #2 I have made a proof-of-principle implementation of #1, and I'll continue expanding it. I could also do an implementation of #3 later. But, since I have little experience with HTML WYSIWYG editors, I would prefer someone else to do that part. But since there is mostly talk on this and the other list, I'll probably end up doing that myself as well... :-( Cheers, Magnus On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I got it - there were some spurious blank lines. Ok, um, it does what you said it does :) Now, how to make this a compelling demonstration that this is _the way foward_? Steve On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Force-reload, go to an article, and you'll see a new WYSIWTF tab (I trust you can decipher the acronym ;-) Hi Magnus, I'm not getting an extra tab. Perhaps I've done something stupid, but I stuck the above code in vector.js, reloaded, nothing. Same in Chrome, FF, Opera. What simple thing am I missing? Not sure - works for me. Have a look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/vector.js Maybe some other script in your vector.js dies before it gets to the include point? If so, try moving the lines to the top of vector.js. Cheers, Magnus ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)
On 12/28/2010 9:40 PM, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM, MuZemikemuzem...@gmail.com wrote: We must also take into account the popularity factor when it comes to comparing WMF wikis. It is obvious of the advantage Wikipedia has over all the other wikis in that is immensely more popular and is received much more widely than all other wikis. You think popularity is the cause of Wiktionary sucking? I think it's the effect. In a sense, yes. The amount of influence and power Wikipedia yields on the rest of the Internet is amazing; we may not be aware of that as we tend to naturally look from the inside out and not from the rest of the world's POV. And I feel that does get in the way of us trying to organize the information we have put together so far (as we humans like to do) - words and definitions in one place (the dictionary), basic descriptions of topics (the encyclopedia) in another place, locations (an atlas or gazetteer, which we still yet to find a way to incorporate a wiki structure for something like that), and so on. I know people don't like what I say when I sometimes tell them to think of Wikipedia (or whichever wiki you are working on) sans the high search rankings, popularity, etc., and just concentrate on the content itself. Are we organizing the information in the most efficient and logical ways we can? Are we maintaining a stable and sustainable wiki in both content and community? I feel those are the questions we ultimately, as a collection of wiki communities, need to always keep in mind. -MuZemike ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
