Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)
> So does that mean we can restore the article on "the"? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The Good example of a poor decision. If nothing else, a discussion of how Russian does without the, or a, or an but English seeming needs them would be very interesting. The question is how we could somehow modify this rigid approach. What does it take to modify something that ingrained into policy? Fred Bauder ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)
So does that mean we can restore the article on "the"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:04 AM, quiddity wrote: > 1. Given that the majority of Wikipedians are not subscribed to this > mailing list (or at least don't post to it), having decisive > discussions here is not very practical. I would think that fewer participants would make decisive discussions easier. > The mailing lists are good for > brainstorming, alerting, and sharing, (etc), amongst the small number > of participants; they are not good for establishing a consensus on the > "nature of Wikipedia". Sorry, I couldn't resist plagiarizing Jimmy Wales and his widely ignored principles from his user page. > 2. Given that you infrequently participate on-wiki,* and your historic > reticence to even communicate on-wiki,** I'm not surprised by this > suggestion. Yes, I find wiki talk pages to be a terrible form of communication. There's no push notification, no decent threading, post-hoc censorship, a requirement to release everything you write under CC-BY-SA, etc. And the silly memes regarding Wikipedia talk pages don't even allow people to utilize the benefits of a wiki - non-signed content, modification of content, multi-person collaboration on a single paragraph. Wikis make sense for collaboration, but not for communication. ~~~ and never made any sense. > However, I would suggest that the mountain is unlikely to > come to you; instead, you must go to the mountain. In this particular case, the mountain had already come to me. I was just objecting to your suggestion that it go back. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)
This has always been the place for such (IMO, healthy) meta-discussion to occur, which what I think this is. -MuZemike On 12/31/2010 12:04 AM, quiddity wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Anthony wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:48 PM, quiddity wrote: >>> Also, it might be helpful to move this discussion on-wiki, so that >>> other interested parties can participate. >> >> It would be more helpful to move the on-wiki discussion here. Very >> limited meta-discussion of the nature of Wikipedia should be placed on >> the site itself. > > 1. Given that the majority of Wikipedians are not subscribed to this > mailing list (or at least don't post to it), having decisive > discussions here is not very practical. The mailing lists are good for > brainstorming, alerting, and sharing, (etc), amongst the small number > of participants; they are not good for establishing a consensus on the > "nature of Wikipedia". > > 2. Given that you infrequently participate on-wiki,* and your historic > reticence to even communicate on-wiki,** I'm not surprised by this > suggestion. However, I would suggest that the mountain is unlikely to > come to you; instead, you must go to the mountain. > > Quiddity > > * http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Anthony > > ** > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony&direction=prev&oldid=140147011 > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony&oldid=140153625 > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony&oldid=195403930 > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
