Re: [WikiEN-l] Avoiding Trouble

2011-01-02 Thread FencesWindows
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 08:55:17 -0700 (MST)
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
From today's newspaper:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/01/health/01care.html?ref=todayspaper
Creating positive emotional experiences diminishes distress and behavior 
problems.

Fred Bauder

Fred, surely you're not intending to compare Wikipedians with patients with 
Alzheimer's? That advice is about how to care for people with dementia, I think 
it would be more than a stretch to extrapolate from that to how our editing 
community should function.


  

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Avoiding Trouble

2011-01-02 Thread Fred Bauder
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 08:55:17 -0700 (MST)
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
From today's newspaper:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/01/health/01care.html?ref=todayspaper
Creating positive emotional experiences diminishes distress and
 behavior
problems.

Fred Bauder

 Fred, surely you're not intending to compare Wikipedians with patients
 with
 Alzheimer's? That advice is about how to care for people with dementia, I
 think
 it would be more than a stretch to extrapolate from that to how our
 editing
 community should function.

The point is that kindness is good for anyone and everyone.

Fred


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Re: [WikiEN-l] WYSIWTF

2011-01-02 Thread MuZemike
OK, so I tried it and made a small copyediting edit on my favorite 
article Ninja Gaiden (Nintendo Entertainment System) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ninja_Gaiden_(Nintendo_Entertainment_System)diff=405556357oldid=393253462

It did mess up a couple of things which I did not touch, so consider 
this an early bug report of sorts :)

-MuZemike

On 12/29/2010 7:16 AM, Magnus Manske wrote:
 I see three parts that will be required for a fully functional demo:

 1. Conversion of wikitext into HTMLized code as input for a HTML editor
 2. A (patched) HTML WYSIWYG editor that takes the code from #1 as input
 3. A wikitext generator, running on the saved HTML from #2

 I have made a proof-of-principle implementation of #1, and I'll
 continue expanding it. I could also do an implementation of #3 later.

 But, since I have little experience with HTML WYSIWYG editors, I would
 prefer someone else to do that part. But since there is mostly talk on
 this and the other list, I'll probably end up doing that myself as
 well... :-(

 Cheers,
 Magnus



 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Steve Bennettstevag...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Ok, I got it - there were some spurious blank lines. Ok, um, it does
 what you said it does :) Now, how to make this a compelling
 demonstration that this is _the way foward_?

 Steve

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Magnus Manske
 magnusman...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Steve Bennettstevag...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Magnus Manske
 magnusman...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 Force-reload, go to an article, and you'll see a new WYSIWTF tab (I
 trust you can decipher the acronym ;-)

 Hi Magnus,
   I'm not getting an extra tab. Perhaps I've done something stupid,
 but I stuck the above code in vector.js, reloaded, nothing. Same in
 Chrome, FF, Opera. What simple thing am I missing?

 Not sure - works for me. Have a look :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/vector.js

 Maybe some other script in your vector.js dies before it gets to the
 include point? If so, try moving the lines to the top of vector.js.

 Cheers,
 Magnus

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