Re: [WikiEN-l] Ancient merge proposals

2012-02-08 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Andrew Gray  wrote:

> The various merge templates drop articles into subcategories of
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_to_be_merged
>
> All are hidden, so they shouldn't display on the article pages.

Thanks. That's why I missed them (not logged in). I was looking at the
template source code, trying to see where the code putting them into
categories was, but presumably it is tucked away in one of the
templates contained within the template. I now see the template
document page would have told me this.

"These templates will add tagged articles to Category:Articles to be
merged, while non-articles (files, templates, etc.) will be added to
Category:Items to be merged."

Doh! Thanks anyway.

Carcharoth

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Ancient merge proposals

2012-02-08 Thread Andrew Gray
On 8 February 2012 12:26, Carcharoth  wrote:
> I recently came across a very ancient merge proposal (from November 2009).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrop_Rotating_House&oldid=467204628
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrope_%28building%29&oldid=467204633
>
> I may try and fix that at some point, if no-one else gets there first,
> but was wondering where very old merge proposals are listed. Is there
> a tracking category somewhere that they are put in?

The various merge templates drop articles into subcategories of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_to_be_merged

All are hidden, so they shouldn't display on the article pages.

There's a full set of tracking categories here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_maintenance_categories_sorted_by_month

(some go back an alarmingly long time...)

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  andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Ancient merge proposals

2012-02-08 Thread Charles Matthews
On 8 February 2012 12:26, Carcharoth  wrote:

> I recently came across a very ancient merge proposal (from November 2009).
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrop_Rotating_House&oldid=467204628
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrope_%28building%29&oldid=467204633
>
> I may try and fix that at some point, if no-one else gets there first,
> but was wondering where very old merge proposals are listed. Is there
> a tracking category somewhere that they are put in?
>

[[Category:Articles to be merged]].

Charles

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[WikiEN-l] Ancient merge proposals

2012-02-08 Thread Carcharoth
I recently came across a very ancient merge proposal (from November 2009).

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrop_Rotating_House&oldid=467204628
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heliotrope_%28building%29&oldid=467204633

I may try and fix that at some point, if no-one else gets there first,
but was wondering where very old merge proposals are listed. Is there
a tracking category somewhere that they are put in?

Carcharoth

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread wheredevelsdare




Wifione commented on  this discussion. He redacted some comments there, a few 
hours later, with this edit on WP:No Original Research - he changed "trial" to 
"trial/litigation in any country" and "published by any involved party" to 
"published/authored
 by any involved party" and also changed Book Reviews from being considered a 
secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its interesting to note 
that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to the discussion taking 
place on an article talk page where he was involved.

Also, the following statements:

"Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a reliable 
source." - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this discussion)

The MSN article is actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), 
carried by MSN and others like Yahoo News. 

A comment about the same Yahoo News article: ".. Yahoo link simply shows the 
opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. 
That is a self-published statement which should not be used to make a 
definitive statement." - Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion)

Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above definitely 
looks a bit out of order to me.

> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100
> From: jay...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
>  wrote:
> > Unbelievable but Shocking !
> >
> > I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ...
> 
> So far the evidence is not good.
> 
> > but a look at the edit history
> > of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests
> > of IIPM and its stakeholders.
> >
> > He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422
> 
> It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there
> arnt many changes.
> 
> "trial" became "trial/litigation in any country"
> 
> and he added "independent" a few times.
> 
> "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable
> secondary source for that interpretation."
> 
> "Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable,
> independent secondary sources for that interpretation."
> 
> "'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material
> found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable
> secondary sources that do so."
> 
> '''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material
> found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable,
> independent secondary sources that do so."
> 
> "Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources.
> Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have
> been published by a reliable secondary source."
> 
> "Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary
> sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only
> if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable
> secondary sources."
> 
> > Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles
> > as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=historysubmit&diff=475405890&oldid=474606800
> >
> > Nevertheless , this has be investigated  or possibly reported to Arb Com.
> 
> I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is
> needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp
> or any reason for a desysop.
> 
> --
> John Vandenberg
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[WikiEN-l] Call for votes! Steward elections 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Tanvir Rahman
Hello everyone,

I am pleased to announce the beginning of the voting of steward elections
2012 [1]. Eligible voters are now encouraged to give their valuable votes
to elect new stewards this year. To find out more about voter eligibility,
please take a look on our guidelines page. [2] Vote page will remain open
to vote until February 27 2012, 23:59 (UTC).

This year, we have made some modifications so it will be easier for voters
to vote compared to the last years. You just have to follow the following
steps.

   - Click on the big gray vote button on the vote page, a box will appear;
   - Select your vote (yes/no/neutral), and write your comments (if you
   have any) in the comment box;
   - And click "vote" on that box and it will save your vote automatically.

Additionally, we are using template and bot so it will be easy to check the
votes and verify the eligible ones.

This year, we are also arranging the confirmation of existing stewards [3],
so you are also welcome to give your valuable comments/feedback about their
works. Confirmations are a good opportunity to check if we are still happy
with our current stewards. So please speak your voice there.

if you have any queries related to anything about to the election, you can
ask us on the talk page [4]. You are also free to poke us on IRC channel
#wikimedia-stewards-elections.

We hope you will participate as soon as possible to speak your opinion and
make this year's election a successful one (as you did in past).

Please feel free to forward this e-mail to any other lists if you think it
will be useful. :-)

Regards,
Tanvir Rahman
Wikitanvir on Wikimedia
(On behalf of the Election Committee.)

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2012
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2012/Guidelines
[3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Confirm/2012/en
[4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stewards/Elections_2012
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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
 wrote:
> Unbelievable but Shocking !
>
> I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ...

So far the evidence is not good.

> but a look at the edit history
> of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests
> of IIPM and its stakeholders.
>
> He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422

It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there
arnt many changes.

"trial" became "trial/litigation in any country"

and he added "independent" a few times.

"Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable
secondary source for that interpretation."

"Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable,
independent secondary sources for that interpretation."

"'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material
found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable
secondary sources that do so."

'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material
found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable,
independent secondary sources that do so."

"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources.
Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have
been published by a reliable secondary source."

"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary
sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only
if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable
secondary sources."

> Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles
> as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=historysubmit&diff=475405890&oldid=474606800
>
> Nevertheless , this has be investigated  or possibly reported to Arb Com.

I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is
needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp
or any reason for a desysop.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Unbelievable but Shocking !

I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, but a look at the edit
history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the
interests of IIPM and its stakeholders.

He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422

Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM)
articles as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=historysubmit&diff=475405890&oldid=474606800

Nevertheless , this has be investigated  or possibly reported to Arb Com.

-TC


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> I do not understand why this accusation is written as a work of fiction.
>
> Whatever the problems faced by an individual, it does not provide
> grounds for crimes like theft. If the person does resort to these
> methods, has to face the consequences, if found out. I am sure we
> appreciated User:Nichalp's contributions when they were made. However,
> when he/she has made mistakes and makes them multiple times, I think
> this also warrants serious investigation.
>
> Pradeep
> Handheld
>
> On 07/02/2012, guptc...@ovi.com  wrote:
> >
> > This is the story of Nichalp[1], an Indian student from Mumbai who became
> > obsessed with editing Wikipedia at a young age. He transformed several
> > articles into featured articles, and became a role model for many
> editors.
> > He was granted the bureaucrat, oversight and administrator privileges -
> > nobody deserved these rights more than him, not even Jimbo.
> >
> > A major change in Nichalp's life came when he came to Australia for
> higher
> > education. Facing a severe financial crunch, Nichalp decided to use the
> only
> > extraordinary skill he had - editing Wikipedia - for making money. He
> put up
> > ads on several freelancer recruiting websites, promising to write
> articles
> > in oexchange for small amounts of money.[2] These were the days when the
> PR
> > professionals had started realizing the importance of Wikipedia. There
> were
> > many takers for Nichalp's services. With his "sockpuppet" accounts,
> Nichalp
> > made a number of contributions (many of which stand deleted now).
> >
> > Unfortunately for Nichalp, the Wikizealots live in an idealistic world.
> They
> > don't realize that, in the long run,  editors cannot be expected to
> devote
> > their time to the project for free.[3] When the Wikihounds came to know
> > about one of Nichalp's paid editing accounts they came after him. Nichalp
> > knew he would be stalked in real life, so he made his main account
> inactive.
> > Meanwhile, he continued to be active through his other paid editing
> > accounts. A man of foresight, Nichalp started another account in April
> 2009
> > to gain back his admin rights.[4]
> >
> > The Wikihounds have an astonishing ability to track the suspicious
> accounts
> > - they tracked another one of Nichalp's paid editing accouents.[5] The
> drama
> > prompted the Arbitration Committee to send him an email enquiry about the
> > paid editing concerns. Nichalp's identity was well-known to those who had
> > exposed his paid editing. The personal information that he had posted
> > earlier on his user page and elsewhere on Wikipedia (and social
> networking
> > sites) had made it easy for Wikihounds to stalk him in real life. Denial
> was
> > not an option - Nichalp knew the Wikihounds were capable of producing
> > evidence against him. Pleading not guilty would only gather more eyeballs
> > and possibly lead to media attention - that could sabotage his
> post-college
> > career. Pleading guilty was not an option either - it would lead to the
> same
> > fate. Nichalp did what he felt was the best option before him. He neither
> > accepted the charge, nor denied it. What happened next was unfortunate
> for
> >  him. Ignoring his 5-year long devotion to the project, the Arbitration
> > Committee took away his bureaucrat, administrator and oversight rights
> in an
> > unopposed judgment.[6]
> > Realizing that his paid editing accounts may be under survelliance from
> the
> > Wikihounds, Nichalp abandoned all of them. All of them, except one - the
> one
> > he had started in April 2009 with the objective of gaining back his admin
> > rights: Wifione. Nichalp carefully crafted his new wiki identity. He
> devoted
> > this new account to earning money from India's most notorious self-styled
> > "management guru". To make sure his paid editing does not appear
> blatantly
> > obvious, Nichalp (or shall we call him Wifione, now?) engaged in a wide
> > range of edits. Wifione rose up in the wiki-hierarchy and became the
> > administrator. He tried not to appear like a paid editor, but the
> constant
> > pressure from his client forced him to make constant edits to the pages
> > associa