Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on
This argument is absurd. You dismiss the opinions of those who bother to speak up, simply because very few bother or care to speak up. On that basis, it's not worth ever asking the community anything, ever. That includes the famous editor retention studies, or image filter 'referendum'. Not at all; if I felt like this, I would have quit months ago because my job would be pointless :). My opinion is more that engaging with the community is good, and helpful, because even crowd-sourcing suggestions or opinions from a small chunk can be helpful. But we most not forget that there are a large number of people we are *not* managing to engage, because as soon as we forget that, the fire goes out of our desire and need to keep looking for better ways to keep people involved in what the Foundation does and what the community decides to do. -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books
2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only. http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/?smid=tw-nytimesseid=auto http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/13/encyclopedia-britannica-halts-print-publication Britannica president Jorge Cauz notes that their revenue from the online encyclopedia was already 15x that of the print version -- 15% of their total, compared to 1%. Most of their revenue for years has come from other targeted educational materials. As he says in the Guardian, Today our digital database is much larger than what we can fit in the print set. And it is up to date because we can revise it within minutes anytime we need to, and we do it many times each day. SJ. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books
2012/3/13 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Today our digital database is much larger than what we can fit in the print set. And it is up to date because we can revise it within minutes anytime we need to, and we do it many times each day. Wow, they update the encyclopedia many times each day. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only. http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/?smid=tw-nytimesseid=auto http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/13/encyclopedia-britannica-halts-print-publication I don't use it in print, haven't for years, and have been expecting something like this for a while, but am still surprisingly saddened by it too; there's something about the shelf of volumes that encapsulates the world's knowledge that sort of symbolizes the whole idea of a library to me. I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias part of your motivation or interest in becoming a Wikipedian? Is there any value in them still? Will you miss it? cheers, -- phoebe ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
