Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
Like so much it needs updating. It is of historical interest, at the very least. For example I discovered the unusual [[List of big-bust models and performers]] which was deleted at the 6th AfD, partly on the basis that it was redundant to [[Category:Big-bust models and performers]]. This category was later deleted on the basis that if the list was deleted, the category was irredeemable. A later redirect at [[List of big bust performers]] was speedily deleted with the summary (R3https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#R3: Recently created, implausible redirect) - the page was then getting 864 hits a month, down from the *2,182* per day of 2008. This is a good example of where a piecemeal approach produces perverse results. On 28/03/2014 03:18, Brian J Mingus wrote: *Most often requested* nonexistent articles per day (based on *149* days in year *2008*). ? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Most_missed_articles On 08/03/2014 09:20, David Gerard wrote: I recall finding a list somewhere of article titles that got lots of hits but didn't have articles, but don't recall where. I may be misremembering of course. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Most_missed_articles On 08/03/2014 09:20, David Gerard wrote: I recall finding a list somewhere of article titles that got lots of hits but didn't have articles, but don't recall where. I may be misremembering of course. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] List admin
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Re: [WikiEN-l] List admin - in that case
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Manual Of Style
I probably consult it every couple of weeks. Usually to check some change hasn't been sneaked in, or for something that isn't covered. Or because someone has told me I'm wrong. It is a shame that it is such a battleground sometimes. But it's also a shame that the basics aren't obvious to more people - i.e. favour readability over almost everything except accuracy. On 30/03/2012 19:23, David Gerard wrote: Just a quick straw poll: When was the last time you looked at the Wikipedia Manual of Style for use in your own writing? And not to tell someone else they were wrong about something. Me, I can't remember. I think I *have*, but it would have been years ago. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Spoiler wars revisited
However they will obviously enjoy the spoiler more, since the warning has spoiled it. On 12/08/2011 20:08, Ken Arromdee wrote: The major fallacy here is that spoiler warnings are not the opposite of spoilers. You can have a spoiler warning and a spoiler at the same time; people who see the warning can choose to ignore it and read the spoiler anyway. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiLove Extension on Prototype
Carry on as before, then? On 25/06/2011 18:38, Fred Bauder wrote: Naw, let's trick em. Let's pretend to be friendly and appreciative for at least two years. Fred As long as we don't start giving newcomers a false sense of appreciation or accomplishment, which will end up hurting them more in the future, as opposed to letting them know right away what they may have make mistakes on. This doesn't mean newcomers shouldn't be praised when they *do* accomplish something genuine and good. -MuZemike On 6/24/2011 7:59 PM, Howie Fung wrote: Hi all, We’re testing a new tool for expressing appreciation to other users and are hoping that you’ll help test it and give us feedback. You can find a more detailed rationale for this tool, as well as instructions for testing, in our blog post here: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/06/24/wikilove-an-experiment-in-appreciation/ You may test the feature by following the instructions here: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/release-en/WikiLove For more information on the Wikilove extension, please visit [1] and [2] Thanks for your help! Howie [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WikiLove_1.0 [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiLove ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] image description pages for latex equations rendered as images
These images are created dynamically by the MediaWiki software. If you go into your preferences you can set the MathML to always be displayed as HTML. Alternatively you can use the edit page or the API. All AIUI. On 23/06/2011 22:13, priyank bagrecha wrote: Hi Do the latex equations rendered as images, dont have a image description page. If they do, how do I go about getting an xml for them? Consider the image below. http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/6/a/f6ac8632c237011599f300e62d916859.png. It is on page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid. I can't find the image description page for this image. If it doesnt have a description page, is this true only for images with class tex? Or is it the case for some other classes of image as well? Thanks :) ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The expert problem, dissolved
On 06/06/2011 20:59, David Gerard wrote: On 6 June 2011 20:56, Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: And as usual, El Reg's coverage manages to be negative anyway. They are truly a lesson to all of us. From They completely miss the point, the average product a student creates ends up in landfill, regardless of quality. If a student is asked to produce something that will be used, whether it's a tea-cosy or a Wikipedia article, they will attempt to produce something fit for the purpose of being used, rather than the purpose of getting the necessary grade. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]
Fred Bauder wrote: The matter can be resolved by editing which conforms the article to Wikipedia policies. This is true, however it is also true the editing which conforms the article to WP policies might fail to resolve the matter. The revival of Gore Vidal's technique of some 50 years ago, where he associated the names of several supreme court judges with sexual acts and parts of the human anatomy, in his novel /Myron/ may or may not be considered a reasonable political ploy. The same would apply to the relatively common practice of gaming page-rank for phrases such as the worlds biggest liar to ones political opponents. The issue here is that Wikipedia becomes party to the action, and lends credibility to one side, not solely by documenting a (possibly) notable incident, but by the manner in which it does it . There are several simple methods that could avoid or reduce this within sensible working practices of Wikipedia. Firstly WP:UNDUE applies, the depth of coverage should not exceed that appropriate for the topic. Secondly the wrod itself is not notable, so much as the incident. therefore simply renaming the article something like Savage Google attack on Santorum is far more apposite, and may not feed the Google attack it is documenting to the same extent. Thirdly the direct quote should not be included in many places in Wikpedia, and coverage should be mainly confined to the article in question. Some parts of the article are of very dubious significance, and the recycling of random quotes does, for example the last one in Recognition and usage - citing the coiner himself, does nothing to enhance the readers understanding of campaign, only of preserving their linen. RMF. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]
Presumably we are evaluating the arguments that are not /ad hominem /on their merits, rather than on the /ad hominem/ basis that their author elsewhere makes /ad hominem /attacks? RMF On 25/05/2011 22:38, David Gerard wrote: See, at this point you completely blew your credibility in this discussion by slipping into ad hominem. That's where you wiped out all gains from your previous posts in the thread. Don't do this if you want to be taken seriously. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
