Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books
On 14/03/2012, at 11:22 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from > a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to > include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print > encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias part of your > motivation or interest in becoming a Wikipedian? Is there any value in > them still? Will you miss it? > I remember the print encyclopedias on the shelf as a kid. I thought they were great, there was so much information on them. And then there was Encarta '97 on disc, with games and searchable content. Yes, search! I became a Wikipedian because I learned so much from it, and wanted to help out. But I'll never forget the trusty old encyclopedias. Steven Zhang Sent from my iPad ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwale_Arobieke
Looks like it's already been done. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akinwale_Arobieke&diff=499068697&oldid=499065750 Regards, Steven Zhang On 24/06/2012, at 11:18 AM, "Phil Nash" wrote: > Unsourced report of death, nothing on Google news. Could someone please > revert until sourced. > > Thanks. > > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Central location for article content queries and requests
Not really sure, the noticeboard as I know it was used for dispute resolution a bit and was depreceated back last year due to inactivity. Help desk maybe? Steven Zhang On 03/07/2012, at 1:13 AM, Eddie Erhart wrote: > Wasn't this part of what the Content noticeboard was intended for? < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_noticeboard> > > --Ed > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a central location for article content queries and >> requests? I'm not necessarily talking about emergency fixes or >> vandalism, but more subtle problems about content that may need >> discussion but where it can be difficult to find people willing to >> tackle the request. The reason I'm looking for something like this can >> be seen in the discussion here (static page version): >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests&oldid=500447721#Georg_Andreas_B.C3.B6ckler >> >> The article talk page is almost certainly the first place to go, >> followed by additional notes to the article editors and in other >> locations in case no-one is watching the article. But even then, it >> would be nice to have a location where such requests can be posted (or >> automatically listed) to draw more attention to them and to allow >> people to help answer them (similar to how the edit request template >> works). >> >> Would something like that have any chance of being useful? >> >> Carcharoth >> >> ___ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Central location for article content queries and requests
> On 03/07/2012, at 5:01 AM, Andrew Gray wrote: > > On 3 July 2012 08:08, Carcharoth wrote: > > As Kudpung notes, it'd be lovely if we had some kind of issue-tracking > system, but in practice we probably don't have the number of people > needed to handle that... You mean like an OTRS system or a robot or something? > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l Steven Zhang ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken
So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a particular day were on one page, and people could come along and approve or reject based in certain criteria. I think that system worked well. True, we have a lot more article creations, but I think it gave more visibility than the current system where everything is subpaged. Some may think that the bar at AFC is set too high but this high bar discourages new users, especially when their submissions stay unreviewed for weeks at a time. And since editor retention is something we are trying to focus on, it seems a worthy project since many new users have their first experiences in AFC. The lack of volunteers in wikiprojects like AFC is not a new thing, so it's not that volunteers have reduced. I think we need to consider if AFC is something we still want to have, and if so, how can we improve it? Steve Zhang ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken
On 17/08/2012, at 10:55 PM, Charles Matthews wrote: > > You are saying that there is a backlog (a problem of success), so the > thing is broken? I know attention-seeking rhetoric is normal in our > discussions, but what exactly is your logic? You preferred the older > system. I don't know what you are saying about the high bar. I think that the use of Articles for Creation is a good thing - don't get me wrong. I just think that if articles are waiting weeks and weeks for reviewing, then it's doing a disservice to those who contribute this new content to Wikipedia - they may give up on it before it's even been reviewed. I don't think this necessarily means that we should get rid of the process, but we should at least think about how we can address the situation so it does not occur again. > > Charles > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l Steven Zhang ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken
On 17/08/2012, at 11:06 PM, Katie Chan wrote: > On 17/08/2012 12:36, Steven Zhang wrote: >> So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 >> pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since >> 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a >> particular day were on one page, and people could come along and approve or >> reject based in certain criteria. > > I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but the number of > submissions per day back then and the number of submission now is on a > totally different order. The solution is to get more experienced editors > reviewing submissions. The solution indeed would be to get more people participating, there's no doubt in that, but with over 1000 pending submissions (not declined, pending) we need to think about what else we can do to fix this. > >> I think that system worked well. True, we have a lot more article creations, >> but I think it gave more visibility than the current system where everything >> is subpaged. > > I agree to that to an extent but one major advantage with the current subpage > system is the retention of page history when an accepted submission is moved > to mainspace compare to previously where the reviewing editor start a new > page and manually copy and paste the submission over. Perhaps we could restructure things so it's like AFD - in a daily log, everything subpaged but all new submissions in one single page per day - then we can check each day off once it's done. This worked in the past, I think it would work now. > > KTC > > -- > Experience is a good school but the fees are high. >- Heinrich Heine > > Steven Zhang ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Individual Engagement Grant proposal on Reimagining Wikipedia Mentorship
Hello everyone, An Individual Engagement Grant entitled "Reimagining Mentorship on Wikipedia" is currently under review at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Reimagining_Mentorship_on_Wikipedia. As part of our research into the best approach to take while pursuing this grant, we would like to seek the input of all Wikimedia users - positive, negative, and merely comments. We seek advice and input on best approaches, previous attempts, current views on Wikimedia mentorship, suggestions regarding implementation, and anything else that the community can think of. We look forward to hearing from everyone! Best, Steven Zhang ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
