Re: [WikiEN-l] Encyclopedia or Gossip Rag
How is the very likely possibility of infidelity relative trivia? I consider it fairly relevant to a section named Personal life. Also, your analogy with historical biographies is flawed, because the inclusion of this allegation barely makes the article increase in size at all. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 7, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 October 2012 14:56, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 2:44 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote: I came across this today in the English Wikipedia: In 2011, it has been reported that [the subject] has been caught cheating on his wife with a 30 year old intern turned reporter. Is this worthy of a credible Encyclopedia or, if it needs reported at all, in a gossip tabloid rag? I'd prefer it if we didn't make that kind of decision ourselves. Has it been reported in mainstream (non-gossip) media? (We have to make a judgement about whether a particular source is respectable or not, but that's better than making judgements on individual facts.) __ We do it all the time. I write historical biographies (amongst other things) and if I recorded all of the detail discussed in the numerous reliable sources (i.e. books) used for each then I would still be writing the first one (and just about got to the length of a medium novel!). Editorial judgement is a key skill for any competent WP editor, and we should focus less on rigid rules (which encourage the inclusion of trivia) and more on good editorial judgement. In this case, good editorial judgement suggests that this is relative trivia. It is not really related to his reason for notability and is distinctly about his private life. It also seems to be something along the lines of an allegation mostly covered in tabloid gossip. I'd suggest that with good editorial judgement this is something we would pause for some time before covering, if at all, whilst BLP applies. Tom ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation launch on English Wikipedia
I am not a fan of page curation. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with NewPages+Twinkle. It works fine for me. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:51 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Special:NewPagesFeed is fantastic, by the way. Click on an article and see what you get. -- Forwarded message -- From: Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org Date: 26 September 2012 02:02 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation launch on English Wikipedia To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, I am happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has just launched Page Curation, a new suite of tools for reviewing articles on Wikipedia. Current page patrol tools like Special:NewPages and Twinkle can be hard to use quickly and accurately, and have led to frustration for some users. Page Curation aims to improve that page patrol experience by making it faster and easier to review new pages, using two integrated tools: the New Pages Feed and the Curation Toolbar. Read the Page Curation announcement on our blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/09/25/page-curation-launch/ To learn more, visit our introduction page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Introduction If you are an experienced editor, please give Page Curation a try: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed We are also holding IRC office hours on Wednesday, September 26 at 4pm PT (23:00 UTC), during which we will be happy to answer any questions you may have. Please report any issues on our talk page or to our Community Liaison, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org. A number of patrollers have already started using Page Curation, and we hope that more curators will adopt this new toolkit over time. A 'release version' was deployed on the English Wikipedia on September 20, 2012, and we plan to make it available to other projects in coming weeks. This feature was created in close collaboration with editors. We would like to take this opportunity to thank all the community members who patiently guided our progress over the past few months. This includes folks like Athleek123, DGG, Dori, Fluffernutter, Logan, The Helpful One, Tom Morris, Utar and WereSpielChequers, to name but a few. We are deeply grateful for your generous contributions to this project! We designed Page Curation to offer a better experience, by making it easier for curators to review new pages and by providing more feedback to creators so they can improve Wikipedia together. We hope that you will find this new tool useful. Enjoy! Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Editor Engagement Team Wikimedia Foundation User:Fabrice Florin (WMF) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_Engagement ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem
Honestly, there really isn't a whole lot of pornographic images. Most of the alleged pornographic images are really just bland images of genitalia. I think people are better off going to 4chan for their fix. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 10, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine a site more accessible and better organized than Wikipedia for someone seeking porn. They're quite correct. Bob On 9/10/2012 1:51 PM, Steve Summit wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/10/wikipedia-slow-to-filter-graphic-imagery-from-site/ Wikipedia has turned down a more or less free offer for software that would keep minors and unsuspecting web surfers from stumbling upon graphic images of sex organs, acts and emissions, FoxNews.com has learned -- sexually explicit images that remain far and away the most popular items on the company's servers. Funny, I didn't realize we (or commons, which is what they're really talking about) were a porn site, but I guess they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true... ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] SEARCHING FOR MARK ANDREW GREEN
I have my iPhone mail's sig say that in order to explain the discrepancy in formatting caused when I switch to Thunderbird in the middle of an email conversation. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 31, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Dan (SPUI) drs...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/28/2012 10:44 AM, Wyatt Lucas wrote: On an unrelated note, could you possibly not use that signature in emails to the mailing list? It's tantamount to advertising. And your sig isn't? ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] SEARCHING FOR MARK ANDREW GREEN
As a new user of the Wikipedia it would be my humble request for you to link me up with my long lost friend, mentor and high school teacher who taught me together with his wife Sue green while they were here in Kenya on the world teach program Please help me out to get in touch with this couple as there is some very important information that i would wish to share with them be blessed Edwin I don't quite understand; is he a Wikipedia user? If not, I don't see any relevance to this mailing list. -- ~yutsi___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] SEARCHING FOR MARK ANDREW GREEN
On an unrelated note, could you possibly not use that signature in emails to the mailing list? It's tantamount to advertising. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Luca Motoc motoc.l...@gmail.com wrote: There is no wikipedia username with Mark Andrew Green.We will notify you if we find him. 2012/8/28 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 28 August 2012 12:59, Wyatt Lucas darthyut...@gmail.com wrote: As a new user of the Wikipedia it would be my humble request for you to link me up with my long lost friend, mentor and high school teacher who taught me together with his wife Sue green while they were here in Kenya on the world teach program I don't quite understand; is he a Wikipedia user? If not, I don't see any relevance to this mailing list. I wasn't sure either, but I let it through on the off-chance someone here knows what it's about and could help. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Luca Motoc site:http://sites.google.com/site/lucamotoc/ Europeana bruxelles (EEB4) 4 EEB4 WEB. SOMERFESTO 23/06/2012 SOMERFESTO WEBSITE P4ENa Tom Wadsworth P4RO .Vlaicu Adriana CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This communication and any attachment to this communication is confidential, is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this communication is addressed and is privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from all dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this communication or such attachment. If you have received this communication or any attachment to this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by email and delete and destroy the communication or attachment you have received and all copies thereof. Receipt by an individual or entity, through misdirection, error or mistake, or by wrongful dissemination, work product or other legal or private privilege, and does not invalidate the sender’s requirement and expectation of confidentiality and privacy. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimedia-l] Legality under French law of hosting personal details such as race and sexuality in Wikipedia
What about infoboxes and leads? They must mention ethnicity, religion, sexuality, etc. somewhere. -- ~~yutsi Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I've been told (and have verified) that the French Wikipedia indeed does without categories to mark people as Jewish, LGBT, etc. I actually quite like that approach. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: The question at issue is whether French Wikimedians might be individually liable for violating French law if they add such categories in Wikipedia. Seems possible. Fortunately, Wikipedia offers both https and the ability to contribute anonymously, for those who are worried about this sort of thing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] divining Wikipedia tea leaves for political pseudoprognostication
On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:56 PM, s...@eskimo.com (Steve Summit) wrote: This may be old news, but it's quite the life-imitates-Wikipedia-imitates-art brouhaha, complete with Stephen-Colbert-instigating vandalism: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-possible-vp-picks-wikipedia-pages-locked-down-amid-editing-spree-20120808,0,6515256.story I love Colbert, but his 'pedia hijinx can be quite annoying. Maybe he should start trolling Reddit or something.___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
