Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs
Don't know if this has been posted yet (apologies if yes) Recording available on iplayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/newsnight (intro at the very start and then from 38:50). Not sure if non-UK people can view . - Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: From: Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 00:53:56 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs Carcharoth wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Looks like it's a happener. Just waiting for call re: cab. Apparently on ~9:45pm (BST), but times may change at short notice. Hang on, Newsnight doesn't start until 10:30pm. Did you mean ~10:45pm? Evidently :-) And at the end of the program as well. After the interesting feature on the Spanish Civil War legacy 70 years on. And the daily news round up, it was time for Wikipedia! How do you think it went, David? I like the bit you said right at the end about how it was a surprise that Wikipedia became so popular, but though I've got it recorded on DVD, I haven't re-watched it yet. I got the impression the presenter (Paxman must be on holiday) and the Guardian guy were saying quite a bit, and you were wanting to correct them on some points, but didn't get much of a chance. Carcharoth The item seems to have been crammed in as a bit of an afterthought, and although the Spanish Civil War legacy is interesting, it's not particularly time-critical. It seems to have been rushed, and although the Guardian commentator seems to have been largely supportive, it would have meant very little to a previously uninformed viewer. Although it seems to have been vaunted as a major shift in emphasis on WP, it should have been pointed out more strongly as (a) a trial (b) based on previous experience at de:wp and (c) not that much different from what already happens. I'm sorry David didn't get the chance to put that forward, but then, that is journalism as opposed to analysis. It remains to be seen whether they'll follow it up, but of course, Parliament is on vacation and we are in the silly season. I suppose we should be grateful for some exposure, and not bad at that. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs
It's also in snippet form at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8222397.stm I have no idea whether this works outside the UK, though... Mike On 26 Aug 2009, at 12:12, Andrew Turvey wrote: Don't know if this has been posted yet (apologies if yes) Recording available on iplayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ newsnight (intro at the very start and then from 38:50). Not sure if non-UK people can view . - Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: From: Phil Nash pn007a2...@blueyonder.co.uk To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 00:53:56 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs Carcharoth wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Looks like it's a happener. Just waiting for call re: cab. Apparently on ~9:45pm (BST), but times may change at short notice. Hang on, Newsnight doesn't start until 10:30pm. Did you mean ~10:45pm? Evidently :-) And at the end of the program as well. After the interesting feature on the Spanish Civil War legacy 70 years on. And the daily news round up, it was time for Wikipedia! How do you think it went, David? I like the bit you said right at the end about how it was a surprise that Wikipedia became so popular, but though I've got it recorded on DVD, I haven't re-watched it yet. I got the impression the presenter (Paxman must be on holiday) and the Guardian guy were saying quite a bit, and you were wanting to correct them on some points, but didn't get much of a chance. Carcharoth The item seems to have been crammed in as a bit of an afterthought, and although the Spanish Civil War legacy is interesting, it's not particularly time-critical. It seems to have been rushed, and although the Guardian commentator seems to have been largely supportive, it would have meant very little to a previously uninformed viewer. Although it seems to have been vaunted as a major shift in emphasis on WP, it should have been pointed out more strongly as (a) a trial (b) based on previous experience at de:wp and (c) not that much different from what already happens. I'm sorry David didn't get the chance to put that forward, but then, that is journalism as opposed to analysis. It remains to be seen whether they'll follow it up, but of course, Parliament is on vacation and we are in the silly season. I suppose we should be grateful for some exposure, and not bad at that. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: It's also in snippet form at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8222397.stm I have no idea whether this works outside the UK, though... That link worked for me, the whole show link about did not. Props to David who did a good job of addressing the questions and sounding very cogent (even though the host seemed to want to portray it as THE END... Maybe? of Wikipedia). --Falcorian ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs
Just to mention, the whole show also had an introductory piece by newsnight explaining the changes, which was then followed by the interview which is linked below. - Falcorian alex.public.account+enwikimailingl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Falcorian alex.public.account+enwikimailingl...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 19:22:55 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: It's also in snippet form at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8222397.stm I have no idea whether this works outside the UK, though... That link worked for me, the whole show link about did not. Props to David who did a good job of addressing the questions and sounding very cogent (even though the host seemed to want to portray it as THE END... Maybe? of Wikipedia). --Falcorian ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flaggedrevs
Carcharoth wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Looks like it's a happener. Just waiting for call re: cab. Apparently on ~9:45pm (BST), but times may change at short notice. Hang on, Newsnight doesn't start until 10:30pm. Did you mean ~10:45pm? Evidently :-) And at the end of the program as well. After the interesting feature on the Spanish Civil War legacy 70 years on. And the daily news round up, it was time for Wikipedia! How do you think it went, David? I like the bit you said right at the end about how it was a surprise that Wikipedia became so popular, but though I've got it recorded on DVD, I haven't re-watched it yet. I got the impression the presenter (Paxman must be on holiday) and the Guardian guy were saying quite a bit, and you were wanting to correct them on some points, but didn't get much of a chance. Carcharoth The item seems to have been crammed in as a bit of an afterthought, and although the Spanish Civil War legacy is interesting, it's not particularly time-critical. It seems to have been rushed, and although the Guardian commentator seems to have been largely supportive, it would have meant very little to a previously uninformed viewer. Although it seems to have been vaunted as a major shift in emphasis on WP, it should have been pointed out more strongly as (a) a trial (b) based on previous experience at de:wp and (c) not that much different from what already happens. I'm sorry David didn't get the chance to put that forward, but then, that is journalism as opposed to analysis. It remains to be seen whether they'll follow it up, but of course, Parliament is on vacation and we are in the silly season. I suppose we should be grateful for some exposure, and not bad at that. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
