Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
No, that would be "Genetica" which is rather different. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Fayssal F. wrote: > I thought it was the spelling of genetics in dutch. > > Fayssal F. > > >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:59:46 + >> From: Thomas Dalton >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or >> genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]] >> To: English Wikipedia >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> 2009/3/10 Michael Bimmler : >> > Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion >> > topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether >> > I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I >> > do grasp the single words... >> >> I'm in a similar position - I think this should be on the talk page >> where people that have the faintest idea what "jenetiks" is might be >> around. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
I thought it was the spelling of genetics in dutch. Fayssal F. > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:59:46 + > From: Thomas Dalton > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or >genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]] > To: English Wikipedia > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2009/3/10 Michael Bimmler : > > Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion > > topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether > > I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I > > do grasp the single words... > > I'm in a similar position - I think this should be on the talk page > where people that have the faintest idea what "jenetiks" is might be > around. > > > > -- > > ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
2009/3/10 Nathan : > Jay sometimes changes spelling to suit his view of how words should be > spelled; I think we've discussed it on this list in the past (the use of j > instead of g, hav instead of have, etc.). Probably not worth more discussion > beyond directing him back to the article talkpage. It's the inconsistent spelling that threw me... ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
Jay sometimes changes spelling to suit his view of how words should be spelled; I think we've discussed it on this list in the past (the use of j instead of g, hav instead of have, etc.). Probably not worth more discussion beyond directing him back to the article talkpage. Nathan ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
2009/3/10 Carcharoth : > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> 2009/3/10 Michael Bimmler : >>> Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion >>> topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether >>> I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I >>> do grasp the single words... >> >> I'm in a similar position - I think this should be on the talk page >> where people that have the faintest idea what "jenetiks" is might be >> around. > > It appears to be an alternative spelling for genetics. >From context, I don't think so. "Someone objected to the new section on jenetiks being stricken with the conclusion that genetics is the cause." That sentences uses both words and seems to suggest they are somehow alternatives. I could go and look it up, I guess... hang on. It seems the word doesn't exist... Now I'm even more confused. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/10 Michael Bimmler : >> Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion >> topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether >> I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I >> do grasp the single words... > > I'm in a similar position - I think this should be on the talk page > where people that have the faintest idea what "jenetiks" is might be > around. It appears to be an alternative spelling for genetics. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
2009/3/10 Michael Bimmler : > Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion > topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether > I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I > do grasp the single words... I'm in a similar position - I think this should be on the talk page where people that have the faintest idea what "jenetiks" is might be around. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
Am I the only one for whom this is highly to specific a discussion
topic for this general mailinglist? To be honest, I'm not sure whether
I completely understood one single sentence of the below, although I
do grasp the single words...
Shouldn't that rather be moved to the article talk page or the
discussion page of the appropriate WikiProject or similar?
Best,
Michael
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote:
> Someone objected to the new section on jenetiks being stricken with the
> conclusion that genetics is the cause. I moved to strike it, because it was
> confusing. In other words, it does not make the conclusion that genetics is
> the cause, nor does it support anything it does say, so I would delete the
> section to over-rule an objection.
>
> I was looking for a citation, because a magazine or something does not
> archive editorials. It turns out that Gajdusek did not like it when
> Prussiner introduced the word "prion" into English. If I had been looking
> for "Scrapie", then I might hav found it. It belongs in a subsection in the
> section about debate. If Prussiner can be credited with anything other than
> a Nobel prize, it is that his hypothesis tested the dominant theory that
> life requires both D.N.A. and protein to reproduce.
>
> In a sympathetic jesture, jenetiks does hav things to say about Protease
> Resistant Protein, so I would give genetics the last word in the debate.
>
> "Agent of [[:category:amyloidosis]] survives temperatures that destroy
> protein and [[DNA]]"
> {{cite journal
> |author=Brown P, Rau EH, Johnson BK, Bacote AE, Gibbs CJ, Gajdusek DC
> |title=New studies on the heat resistance of hamster-adapted scrapie agent:
> threshold survival after ashing at 600 degrees C suggests an inorganic
> template of replication
> |journal=[[Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A.]]
> |volume=97
> |issue=7
> |pages=3418-21
> |year=2000
> |month=March
> |pmid=10716712
> |pmc=16254
> |doi=10.1073/pnas.050566797
> |url=http://www.pnas.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=10716712
> |issn=
> }}
>
>
>
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[WikiEN-l] The sharpest criticism of a protein-only or genetics hypothesis regarding [[prion]]
Someone objected to the new section on jenetiks being stricken with the
conclusion that genetics is the cause. I moved to strike it, because it was
confusing. In other words, it does not make the conclusion that genetics is
the cause, nor does it support anything it does say, so I would delete the
section to over-rule an objection.
I was looking for a citation, because a magazine or something does not
archive editorials. It turns out that Gajdusek did not like it when
Prussiner introduced the word "prion" into English. If I had been looking
for "Scrapie", then I might hav found it. It belongs in a subsection in the
section about debate. If Prussiner can be credited with anything other than
a Nobel prize, it is that his hypothesis tested the dominant theory that
life requires both D.N.A. and protein to reproduce.
In a sympathetic jesture, jenetiks does hav things to say about Protease
Resistant Protein, so I would give genetics the last word in the debate.
"Agent of [[:category:amyloidosis]] survives temperatures that destroy
protein and [[DNA]]"
{{cite journal
|author=Brown P, Rau EH, Johnson BK, Bacote AE, Gibbs CJ, Gajdusek DC
|title=New studies on the heat resistance of hamster-adapted scrapie agent:
threshold survival after ashing at 600 degrees C suggests an inorganic
template of replication
|journal=[[Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A.]]
|volume=97
|issue=7
|pages=3418-21
|year=2000
|month=March
|pmid=10716712
|pmc=16254
|doi=10.1073/pnas.050566797
|url=http://www.pnas.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=10716712
|issn=
}}
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