[WikiEN-l] Who gets to flag? (BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs)

2009-08-25 Thread Joseph Reagle
On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Erik Moeller wrote:
 The FlaggedRevs extension has been used in many of our wikis,
 including the second-largest Wikipedia, for more than a year. However,
 contrary to what's been reported in some media, the community has had
 very thoughtful conversations about the ideal setup for en.wp, which
 isn't going to be the same as the one used for de.wp, and we want to
 make sure that the software properly supports it without causing
 confusion, especially in light of our general efforts to make
 Wikipedia easier to use and easier to contribute to.

In speaking to the press today, one of the things I believe I heard in an intro 
segment on a live radio discussion was that WP would have professional editors 
flagging trusted content. I didn't get a chance to correct that, and I know who 
gets to review is still up in the air to some extent [1], but that's a likely 
source of confusion to the public apparently.

[1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reviewers

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Who gets to flag? (BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs)

2009-08-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/25 Joseph Reagle rea...@mit.edu:

 In speaking to the press today, one of the things I believe I heard in an 
 intro segment on a live radio discussion was that WP would have professional 
 editors flagging trusted content. I didn't get a chance to correct that, and 
 I know who gets to review is still up in the air to some extent [1], but 
 that's a likely source of confusion to the public apparently.


IME the problem is the use of the word editor. We use it as in tens
of thousands of volunteers, everyone else assumes we mean as in the
boss who decides what goes in. It's a jargon versus English problem.


 [1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reviewers


Starting with all the admins. Presumably any active editor who isn't a
problem child will get it too, similar to rollback.


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Who gets to flag? (BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs)

2009-08-25 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/26 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 2009/8/25 Joseph Reagle rea...@mit.edu:

 In speaking to the press today, one of the things I believe I heard in an 
 intro segment on a live radio discussion was that WP would have professional 
 editors flagging trusted content. I didn't get a chance to correct that, and 
 I know who gets to review is still up in the air to some extent [1], but 
 that's a likely source of confusion to the public apparently.


 IME the problem is the use of the word editor. We use it as in tens
 of thousands of volunteers, everyone else assumes we mean as in the
 boss who decides what goes in. It's a jargon versus English problem.

I think the problem comes from the fact that all our articles are
collaborative works. Normally there is a writer and an editor and they
are distinct jobs. We have everyone as editors since everyone can
change what other people have written. That is very unusual and the
English language hasn't had a change to adapt to it.

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