Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Hi Steve, On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lydia, Very cool. You might want to expand on this text: Language links in the sidebar will automatically come from Wikidata, once the article is linked on Wikidata. No special syntax is needed for that. Yes, correct. A page on Wikidata (called item) needs to exist for the subject and contain a link to the article on the Wikipedia where the other language links are supposed to show up. So take for example http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2. If someone writes a new article about this subject that didn't have one so far then they need to add the link to the table at the bottom there. Then all the other links will show up in the sidebar of their article. I hope that makes it clearer. If not please let me know. Speaking as someone who knows nothing about Wikidata, the phrase once the article is linked on Wikidata doesn't mean anything. From a bit of digging around, I see that someone has to create a Wikidata page for each biographical subject, but who? Will the bot MerllwBot (that created the Mario Goeppert-Mayer page) eventually create all the others? It's a mix of bots and humans creating them. At this point my best guess is that a very large part of pages already have a corresponding page on Wikidata. But that's just a guess. In total we have 3,985,290 on Wikidata at the moment, and growing. What exactly should editors do at this point? Just sit back and wikidata goodness will flow? Or take active steps to replace lists of interwiki links with automatically generated ones? That is up to you. If you want you can remove them by hand. Or have someone run bots to do so. Or just leave things as they are. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
On 15/02/2013 11:36, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking as someone who knows nothing about Wikidata, the phrase once the article is linked on Wikidata doesn't mean anything. From a bit of digging around, I see that someone has to create a Wikidata page for each biographical subject, but who? Will the bot MerllwBot (that created the Mario Goeppert-Mayer page) eventually create all the others? It's a mix of bots and humans creating them. At this point my best guess is that a very large part of pages already have a corresponding page on Wikidata. But that's just a guess. In total we have 3,985,290 on Wikidata at the moment, and growing. From my experience, it would appear generally speaking article with more than 1 or 2 interwiki links will typically already exist on Wikidata, but not necessarily otherwise. If there's a Wikidata item that linked to the corresponding article you are on, Edit links will appear on the side bar under Languages. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2/15/13, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: From my experience, it would appear generally speaking article with more than 1 or 2 interwiki links will typically already exist on Wikidata, but not necessarily otherwise. If only 1 or 2 interwiki links exist on an article, and there is no Wikidata entry, is it worth creating one or just waiting for one to be created as more interwiki links are added, or other Wikidata functionality is added? Eventually I expect one of the bots to get to it but if you want you can also just create it. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
The item should be created, because in many cases other properties ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:P) can still be added to the item. -- Legoktm On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: On 2/15/13, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: From my experience, it would appear generally speaking article with more than 1 or 2 interwiki links will typically already exist on Wikidata, but not necessarily otherwise. If only 1 or 2 interwiki links exist on an article, and there is no Wikidata entry, is it worth creating one or just waiting for one to be created as more interwiki links are added, or other Wikidata functionality is added? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
This is simply wonderful. Thank you, Lydia and WD team! Sam. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with phase 1 now \o/ Details are in this blog post: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia An FAQ is being worked on at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions Thanks everyone who helped! I'm happy to answer questions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical). Please also let me know about any issues there. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Hi Lydia, Very cool. You might want to expand on this text: Language links in the sidebar will automatically come from Wikidata, once the article is linked on Wikidata. No special syntax is needed for that. Speaking as someone who knows nothing about Wikidata, the phrase once the article is linked on Wikidata doesn't mean anything. From a bit of digging around, I see that someone has to create a Wikidata page for each biographical subject, but who? Will the bot MerllwBot (that created the Mario Goeppert-Mayer page) eventually create all the others? What exactly should editors do at this point? Just sit back and wikidata goodness will flow? Or take active steps to replace lists of interwiki links with automatically generated ones? Steve On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: This is simply wonderful. Thank you, Lydia and WD team! Sam. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with phase 1 now \o/ Details are in this blog post: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia An FAQ is being worked on at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions Thanks everyone who helped! I'm happy to answer questions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical). Please also let me know about any issues there. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with phase 1 now \o/ Details are in this blog post: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia An FAQ is being worked on at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions Thanks everyone who helped! I'm happy to answer questions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical). Please also let me know about any issues there. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
2013/2/11 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de: Heya :) We tried to deploy phase 1 on enwp today but ran into issues. We'll have to reschedule. Currently it looks like we'll do this on Wednesday. Sorry folks. We'll do another attempt later today (probably around 17:00 UTC). Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Hey, There were unfortunately too many other issues unrelated to Wikidata so we also had to call off this one. Sorry. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Hey :) Guillaume just reminded me that I have not yet posted this here but only on the village pump and Signpost. Sorry. I'll fix that now with this email. Later today (evening UTC) we'll deploy the first phase of Wikidata on the English language Wikipedia. We've already deployed the first phase on the Hungarian, Hebrew and Italian Wikipedias and things there went rather smoothly. We hope this is the case here too. What is going to happen exactly? * Language links in the sidebar will come from Wikidata if they exist there. * Existing language links in the wiki text will continue to work and overwrite links from Wikidata. * For individual articles language links from Wikidata can be supressed completely with the noexternallanglinks magic word. * Changes on Wikidata that relate to articles on this Wikipedia will show up in Recent Changes if the option is enabled by the user * At the bottom of the language links list you will see a link to edit the language links that leads you to the corresponding page on Wikidata. * You can see an example of how it works at http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie * The second phase of Wikidata (which is about Infoboxes was started on Wikidata but can't yet be used on any Wikipedia. This will follow later. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp
Heya :) We tried to deploy phase 1 on enwp today but ran into issues. We'll have to reschedule. Currently it looks like we'll do this on Wednesday. Sorry folks. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
