Re: [WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons
<> And who sets this incredibly high bar of "morality" ? And whose morals? And who chooses? And who decides that we must be archangels and views the rest of journalism and publishing as moral demons? That isn't the project for which I volunteered. The project for which I volunteered is the one Jimmy Wales stated that we will document the world. We will include everything. That was the original scope and intent. Will Johnson **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> toddmallen wrote: >> >>> People are readily identifiable by the information given about them >>> anyway. How hard is it to find the Star Wars kid's name, even from our >>> article, where all the sources we use readily publish it, or a google >>> search on the article title brings it right up? If something is in >>> public already (which it by definition is, if reliable sources >>> available to the public have published it), it is no longer private. >>> You can say that's good, or bad, or simply inevitable, but it's still >>> the fact, and to think we can stuff genies back in bottles (even >>> provided that to do so would be desirable, an odd position for a >>> project specifically dedicated to making information available to >>> take) is monumental hubris. We're big, but we're not -that- big. >>> >>> >> >> (Off-Topic): >> >> And yet, see [[illegal prime]], and [[AACS encryption key controversy]]. >> >> >> Yours, >> >> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > > The idea is that we do the right thing regardless of what anyone else does. > > Fred > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > Fully agreed. We provide information without bias, slant, or censorship, regardless of what anyone else does. That is the right thing to do, and that's what we do. Unfortunately, we don't always seem to do that anymore. -- Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > toddmallen wrote: > >> People are readily identifiable by the information given about them >> anyway. How hard is it to find the Star Wars kid's name, even from our >> article, where all the sources we use readily publish it, or a google >> search on the article title brings it right up? If something is in >> public already (which it by definition is, if reliable sources >> available to the public have published it), it is no longer private. >> You can say that's good, or bad, or simply inevitable, but it's still >> the fact, and to think we can stuff genies back in bottles (even >> provided that to do so would be desirable, an odd position for a >> project specifically dedicated to making information available to >> take) is monumental hubris. We're big, but we're not -that- big. >> >> > > (Off-Topic): > > And yet, see [[illegal prime]], and [[AACS encryption key controversy]]. > > > Yours, > > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > And note that none of those numbers, -even when protected by law-, stay a secret. -- Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons
> toddmallen wrote: > >> People are readily identifiable by the information given about them >> anyway. How hard is it to find the Star Wars kid's name, even from our >> article, where all the sources we use readily publish it, or a google >> search on the article title brings it right up? If something is in >> public already (which it by definition is, if reliable sources >> available to the public have published it), it is no longer private. >> You can say that's good, or bad, or simply inevitable, but it's still >> the fact, and to think we can stuff genies back in bottles (even >> provided that to do so would be desirable, an odd position for a >> project specifically dedicated to making information available to >> take) is monumental hubris. We're big, but we're not -that- big. >> >> > > (Off-Topic): > > And yet, see [[illegal prime]], and [[AACS encryption key controversy]]. > > > Yours, > > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen The idea is that we do the right thing regardless of what anyone else does. Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
