Re: [WikiEN-l] Outline articles
Yeah, but what does it have to do with this thread? On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:31 PM, MuZemike wrote: > More powerful than Oversight, as well. > > -MuZemike > > On 9/8/2011 12:07 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Andrew Gray >>> wrote: I don't think we've discussed the "outline of X" articles much on this list, which surprises me, but people might nonetheless be interested in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles "I would like to propose the removal of all outline articles. All articles currently named "Outline of ..." would be renamed "List of ... topics". If there is already a list of that name, the two would be merged." >>> >>> Not commenting on the main proposal, but the following surprises me: >>> >>> "No redirects would be left behind. In addition, any currently >>> existing "Outline of ..." redirects would be eliminated." >>> >>> That seems to me to misunderstand what redirects are for and how >>> merging operates. Possibly that option was thrown in to ensure that >>> the content would be deleted and not retrievable from the page >>> history. Without that bit, it is merely a merge and/or renaming >>> proposal. With the elimination of redirects, it becomes a deletion >>> proposal. >>> >>> Carcharoth >> >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Extension:DeletePagePermanently >> >> The ultimate deletionist's tool. >> >> Fred >> >> >> >> ___ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Outline articles
More powerful than Oversight, as well. -MuZemike On 9/8/2011 12:07 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Andrew Gray >> wrote: >>> I don't think we've discussed the "outline of X" articles much on this >>> list, which surprises me, but people might nonetheless be interested >>> in: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles >>> >>> "I would like to propose the removal of all outline articles. All >>> articles currently named "Outline of ..." would be renamed "List of >>> ... topics". If there is already a list of that name, the two would be >>> merged." >> >> Not commenting on the main proposal, but the following surprises me: >> >> "No redirects would be left behind. In addition, any currently >> existing "Outline of ..." redirects would be eliminated." >> >> That seems to me to misunderstand what redirects are for and how >> merging operates. Possibly that option was thrown in to ensure that >> the content would be deleted and not retrievable from the page >> history. Without that bit, it is merely a merge and/or renaming >> proposal. With the elimination of redirects, it becomes a deletion >> proposal. >> >> Carcharoth > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Extension:DeletePagePermanently > > The ultimate deletionist's tool. > > Fred > > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Outline articles
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Andrew Gray > wrote: >> I don't think we've discussed the "outline of X" articles much on this >> list, which surprises me, but people might nonetheless be interested >> in: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles >> >> "I would like to propose the removal of all outline articles. All >> articles currently named "Outline of ..." would be renamed "List of >> ... topics". If there is already a list of that name, the two would be >> merged." > > Not commenting on the main proposal, but the following surprises me: > > "No redirects would be left behind. In addition, any currently > existing "Outline of ..." redirects would be eliminated." > > That seems to me to misunderstand what redirects are for and how > merging operates. Possibly that option was thrown in to ensure that > the content would be deleted and not retrievable from the page > history. Without that bit, it is merely a merge and/or renaming > proposal. With the elimination of redirects, it becomes a deletion > proposal. > > Carcharoth https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Extension:DeletePagePermanently The ultimate deletionist's tool. Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Outline articles
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Andrew Gray wrote: > I don't think we've discussed the "outline of X" articles much on this > list, which surprises me, but people might nonetheless be interested > in: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles > > "I would like to propose the removal of all outline articles. All > articles currently named "Outline of ..." would be renamed "List of > ... topics". If there is already a list of that name, the two would be > merged." Not commenting on the main proposal, but the following surprises me: "No redirects would be left behind. In addition, any currently existing "Outline of ..." redirects would be eliminated." That seems to me to misunderstand what redirects are for and how merging operates. Possibly that option was thrown in to ensure that the content would be deleted and not retrievable from the page history. Without that bit, it is merely a merge and/or renaming proposal. With the elimination of redirects, it becomes a deletion proposal. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Outline articles
On 07/09/2011 21:45, Andrew Gray wrote: > I don't think we've discussed the "outline of X" articles much on this > list, which surprises me, but people might nonetheless be interested > in: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles > > "I would like to propose the removal of all outline articles. All > articles currently named "Outline of ..." would be renamed "List of > ... topics". If there is already a list of that name, the two would be > merged." > > (Presented without comment; I'm not quite sure what I myself think of them!) > NB that there is a proponent of "outlines", who is meeting resistance in the case of the numerous mathematical lists. I suppose an outline is properly a pedagogical summary, rather than just a topical listing. Therefore outlines are more likely tied to particular parts of educational systems, while a list is supposedly more neutral. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
