Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Sorting out the images: Please help!

[Cristian Consonni]

2012/9/15 Cristian Consonni :
> wit the help of User:Ermanon which has created all the relevan
> subcategories[0], I have put them in the list pages[1][2][3][4].
> Please note that I used the template {{Interprogetto}}[5] since the
> template {{commonscat}}[6] is deprecated in it.wiki.

Some help about this?

Cristian

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Itzik Edri]

Just an update:

Yan from our chapter volunteered to do it, so he leading this and already
started to work on that. If someone want to help him and support this so we
can maybe finish a test version until the end of the week - please contact
him, y...@nasonov.co.il

Itzik.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Platonides  wrote:

> On 17/09/12 20:58, Jason Spriggs wrote:
> > Breeding grounds are setup. I will try to really get started on it in a
> > few hours. Until then, time for the fun lines at the DMV.
> > http://wlm.wmflabs.org/
> >
> > ~Jason
>
> Can you add me to the project?
>
> The major drawback of using labs is that we don't have access to the
> database which is the killer feature for this tool.
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Platonides]

On 17/09/12 20:58, Jason Spriggs wrote:
> Breeding grounds are setup. I will try to really get started on it in a
> few hours. Until then, time for the fun lines at the DMV. 
> http://wlm.wmflabs.org/
> 
> ~Jason

Can you add me to the project?

The major drawback of using labs is that we don't have access to the
database which is the killer feature for this tool.


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Jason Spriggs]

Breeding grounds are setup. I will try to really get started on it in a few
hours. Until then, time for the fun lines at the DMV.
http://wlm.wmflabs.org/

~Jason

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Alexrk  wrote:

> Itzik Edri schrieb am 15.09.2012 22:15:
>
>  Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
>> Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
>> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-**
>> 67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit
>>
>>
> There are several existing photo management tools where you can do such
> things - like rating, categorizing, adding metadata, filtering images
> according to metadata.
>
> IMO there are two main hurdles:
>
> 1) You need to write a tool, that downloads images from the WLM category
> an possibly add some XMP metadata to the image (if needed.. like uploader,
> categories, URL)
>
> 2) You need a photo management software that is able to work in a
> multi-user scenario (with a shared database).
>
>
> From what I have heard, DBGallery can work in multi-user mode (but I never
> tried this). I myself use ACDSee - it's fast even for large amounts of
> images and has lots of functions to handle metadata (including ratings and
> categorizations), search and filtering. But the downside of ACDSee is (as
> far as I know), that only one user can access its internal database at a
> time.
>
>
> Regards
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Alexrk]

Itzik Edri schrieb am 15.09.2012 22:15:

Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit



There are several existing photo management tools where you can do such 
things - like rating, categorizing, adding metadata, filtering images 
according to metadata.


IMO there are two main hurdles:

1) You need to write a tool, that downloads images from the WLM category 
an possibly add some XMP metadata to the image (if needed.. like 
uploader, categories, URL)


2) You need a photo management software that is able to work in a 
multi-user scenario (with a shared database).



From what I have heard, DBGallery can work in multi-user mode (but I 
never tried this). I myself use ACDSee - it's fast even for large 
amounts of images and has lots of functions to handle metadata 
(including ratings and categorizations), search and filtering. But the 
downside of ACDSee is (as far as I know), that only one user can access 
its internal database at a time.



Regards
Alex

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Jason Spriggs]

Should log ins be done using URL's or user/pass combos? Also, I got a
Wikimedia Labs project setup for it so we can have an actual place for this
to live.

~Jason

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jason Spriggs wrote:

> I think I would be able to create at least a draft, maybe a full product
> of this system. What's the deadline you are looking at?
>
> ~Jason
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
>
>> The tool is interesting but it should solve some questions:
>>
>> a) when it can be ready
>> b) how big can be the local DB
>>
>> The last question is important because there are some countries with few
>> hundred photos and some other countries with 10.000 - 20.000 and probably
>> 30.000 photos.
>>
>> To have boazooka to kill ants, it doesn't make sense.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>
>>> Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
>>> Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 WLM-IL team decided to budged up to 2,000$ for developing voting system
 for WLM juries.

 I'm looking for developer who can build a basic web program which can
 be uses by all the others countries also.
 I'll shortly post a draft how I think the system will need to look
 like. We looking for something to be used by our judges, not the public (so
 this tool will not help countries who looking for "crowd-sourcing" voting
 system).

 If someone know a good developer who can do it for us quickly, I'll be
 happy to help contacting him.


 Itzik

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Jason Spriggs]

I think I would be able to create at least a draft, maybe a full product of
this system. What's the deadline you are looking at?

~Jason

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ilario Valdelli  wrote:

> The tool is interesting but it should solve some questions:
>
> a) when it can be ready
> b) how big can be the local DB
>
> The last question is important because there are some countries with few
> hundred photos and some other countries with 10.000 - 20.000 and probably
> 30.000 photos.
>
> To have boazooka to kill ants, it doesn't make sense.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>
>> Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
>> Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> WLM-IL team decided to budged up to 2,000$ for developing voting system
>>> for WLM juries.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for developer who can build a basic web program which can be
>>> uses by all the others countries also.
>>> I'll shortly post a draft how I think the system will need to look like.
>>> We looking for something to be used by our judges, not the public (so this
>>> tool will not help countries who looking for "crowd-sourcing" voting
>>> system).
>>>
>>> If someone know a good developer who can do it for us quickly, I'll be
>>> happy to help contacting him.
>>>
>>>
>>> Itzik
>>>
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Ilario Valdelli]

The tool is interesting but it should solve some questions:

a) when it can be ready
b) how big can be the local DB

The last question is important because there are some countries with few
hundred photos and some other countries with 10.000 - 20.000 and probably
30.000 photos.

To have boazooka to kill ants, it doesn't make sense.

Regards

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:

> Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
> Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> WLM-IL team decided to budged up to 2,000$ for developing voting system
>> for WLM juries.
>>
>> I'm looking for developer who can build a basic web program which can be
>> uses by all the others countries also.
>> I'll shortly post a draft how I think the system will need to look like.
>> We looking for something to be used by our judges, not the public (so this
>> tool will not help countries who looking for "crowd-sourcing" voting
>> system).
>>
>> If someone know a good developer who can do it for us quickly, I'll be
>> happy to help contacting him.
>>
>>
>> Itzik
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Osmar Valdebenito]

It will be great to use it for WLM in Chile and Argentina at least, so if
WM-IL is able to do this tool, I'll be really happy if it can be adapted
for us.

Osmar Valdebenito G.


2012/9/17 Itzik Edri 

> Hi Jane,
>
> Maybe I didn't explain myself right. This system is not to be uses on
> Commons, and not by the public. It's a really separate one which only
> importing the photos from a specific category and allowing only specific
> people to rate them (the juries)..
>
> Itzik
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>
>> Itzik,
>> I think it would be a great idea to have some sort of generic feedback
>> tool for Commons. Who is afraid of big data these days? You could enable a
>> link to a photo that uses a clickthrough method to just ask the question
>> "Does this photo represent what you were looking for?" or something like
>> that. The WLM competition could become an incubator for experiments on
>> Commons like that (just not this year, though).
>> Jane
>>
>> 2012/9/16 Itzik Edri 
>>
>>>  I just wondering, if there are more countries who interesting in such
>>> kind of a voting system, or maybe we can develop much more basic things
>>> only for the uses of WMIL and save time & money..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>>
 Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I
 opened Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit


 On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> WLM-IL team decided to budged up to 2,000$ for developing voting
> system for WLM juries.
>
> I'm looking for developer who can build a basic web program which can
> be uses by all the others countries also.
> I'll shortly post a draft how I think the system will need to look
> like. We looking for something to be used by our judges, not the public 
> (so
> this tool will not help countries who looking for "crowd-sourcing" voting
> system).
>
> If someone know a good developer who can do it for us quickly, I'll be
> happy to help contacting him.
>
>
> Itzik
>


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Developing voting system for the juries

[Itzik Edri]

Hi Jane,

Maybe I didn't explain myself right. This system is not to be uses on
Commons, and not by the public. It's a really separate one which only
importing the photos from a specific category and allowing only specific
people to rate them (the juries)..

Itzik

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:

> Itzik,
> I think it would be a great idea to have some sort of generic feedback
> tool for Commons. Who is afraid of big data these days? You could enable a
> link to a photo that uses a clickthrough method to just ask the question
> "Does this photo represent what you were looking for?" or something like
> that. The WLM competition could become an incubator for experiments on
> Commons like that (just not this year, though).
> Jane
>
> 2012/9/16 Itzik Edri 
>
>>  I just wondering, if there are more countries who interesting in such
>> kind of a voting system, or maybe we can develop much more basic things
>> only for the uses of WMIL and save time & money..
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>
>>> Here the basic things that I think this system need to include. I opened
>>> Google docs for everyone, so you can add notes on each option.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBhgIyCvE8x1R6O0f-67136VBKGK8eAEq9_oe108DnQ/edit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Itzik Edri  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 WLM-IL team decided to budged up to 2,000$ for developing voting system
 for WLM juries.

 I'm looking for developer who can build a basic web program which can
 be uses by all the others countries also.
 I'll shortly post a draft how I think the system will need to look
 like. We looking for something to be used by our judges, not the public (so
 this tool will not help countries who looking for "crowd-sourcing" voting
 system).

 If someone know a good developer who can do it for us quickly, I'll be
 happy to help contacting him.


 Itzik

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