[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Regarding the participation of Russia in Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

[Kimmo Virtanen]

>
> Geopolitical differences and conflicts among governments should never be a
> factor to sanction and obstruct volunteer activities from those nations. We
> need to remind ourselves that the government and the Wikimedia volunteers
> or affiliates of a country are different entities and the Wikimedia
> communities cannot be held responsible for the action of their governments.
> Russian heritage photographers have nothing to do with the Ukraine war and
> they have equal rights to have their photographs compete and judged like
> the other participating countries.


Interpretation is more complex. Russia is destroying Ukraine's landmarks
and cultural heritage as part of its methods to wage war.

For example, they have been burning the archives of the Stalin era human
rights crimes. Another highly problematic thing is that Russia is
systematically stealing cultural heritage and other properties from the
areas which they have occupied. For example, they stole scientific
equipment from Tšernobyl or art from the museums.

At the same time, if we highlight the cultural heritage of Russia, we are
not just highlighting the volunteer work but Russia's national achievements
and imperialism. The participation can be exploited as part of Russian
propaganda even if the organizers or Wikimedia movement doesn't mean it so.

Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen, Zache (organizer of WLM Finland)


On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 8:46 PM Bodhisattwa 
wrote:

> Hi Rubén,
>
> I find the decision of WLM international team completely reasonable to not
> exclude Russian photographs from the competition.
>
> Geopolitical differences and conflicts among governments should never be a
> factor to sanction and obstruct volunteer activities from those nations. We
> need to remind ourselves that the government and the Wikimedia volunteers
> or affiliates of a country are different entities and the Wikimedia
> communities cannot be held responsible for the action of their governments.
> Russian heritage photographers have nothing to do with the Ukraine war and
> they have equal rights to have their photographs compete and judged like
> the other participating countries.
>
> Also, WLM is not only a photography competiton, it's a way to digitally
> preserve heritage. Digital conversation has inverse relationship with
> destruction of war.
>
> Apart from Ukraine, there are conflicts, invasions and wars happening in
> the Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific and other regions. There had been
> many in the past and surely there will be more in the future. WLM need not
> have to be involved in all these geopolitical complexities and take sides,
> rather if it can bridge gaps among people who are in conflicting countries
> by including them all, it can rather play that significant role instead of
> excluding and dividing them further.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 18:33 Rodelar  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> The Wiki Loves Monuments international team has been asked if photographs
>> from Russia should be allowed or excluded from participating in this year's
>> international contest. We have been in contact with the organising teams of
>> Wiki Loves Monuments from Ukraine and from Russia to discuss this and to
>> find a solution.
>>
>> We greatly appreciate that the team from Ukraine has organized the local
>> edition of the competition while there is war in their country! We
>> understand that there are reservations against seeing images from Ukraine
>> and Russia presented side by side in the galleries of nominated or winning
>> pictures.
>>
>> The volunteer team organising Wiki Loves Monuments Russia emphasizes to
>> have no ties to the Russian government or the Russian Wikimedia affiliate.
>> They are submitting the 10 finalist images to the international final round
>> of Wiki Loves Monuments 2022, but the occupied areas, including Crimea and
>> Sevastopol, have been excluded from the Wiki Loves monuments campaign.
>> Also, in Russia there is no freedom of panorama for works of art. This
>> excludes, in fact, any images of monuments and statues erected since World
>> War II, and which for example glorify the war, from being legally uploaded
>> to Wikimedia Commons.
>>
>> If images from Russia are excluded because of the war in Ukraine, this
>> could, without being based on a rule for the competition, set a precedent
>> for other territories where there is war around the world. Rules would have
>> to found, before deciding case by case, if a country should not be allowed
>> to send its nominations to Wiki Loves Monuments international.
>>
>> With these considerations in mind, the WLM organising team does not see a
>> reason to exclude the submission of Russian finalists images to the
>> international final round.
>>
>> On behalf of the WLM 2022 organising team,
>>
>> Rubén Ojeda
>>
>> International jury coordinator, Wiki Loves Monuments 2022
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Decision of WLM in Ukraine organizers not to submit photos for the international round

[Platonides]

Congratulations, WLM-UA team. That's a shocking achievement, given the
current situation that Ukraine is going through!

May 2023 be a *much* happier year for Ukraine, with all the other countries
having to suffer their participants no longer having more pressing concerns
than snapping beautiful pics.
(I'm sadly aware the war consequences are unlikely to disappear so easily,
but one may dream...)

Love,
Platonides
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Decision of WLM in Ukraine organizers not to submit photos for the international round

[Nicu Buculei]

My opinion may not be worth much as I was not involved at all this year in
WLM, but I was an organizer for Romania between 2011-2015 and a contributor
in several other years. I support you 100%, I would do the same.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022, 6:46 pm Olga Milianovych, <
olga.milianov...@wikimedia.org.ua> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> On behalf of the organizing team for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine I’m
> writing to inform you of our decision not to submit photos for the
> international round.
>
> Traditionally, Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine has been one of the biggest
> WLM local contests in the world, as well as among the biggest projects
> supported by Wikimedia Ukraine.
>
> This year, Ukraine and subsequently the contest has suffered from Russia’s
> full-scale invasion. Particularly, for security reasons the organizers had
> to limit submissions only to photos taken before February 24th, 2022, which
> is the date when Russia openly invaded Ukraine.
>
> Despite the limitations, we managed to organize the contest in 2022 and
> attract almost 14,000 photos of Ukrainian cultural heritage from almost 300
> participants. They illustrate over 5,300 monuments, including 351 monuments
> depicted for the first time.
>
> However, the local organizers will not be submitting Ukrainian photos for
> the international round because of the international organizers’ decisions
> to accept photos from Russia on the international stage. To be clear, we do
> not support this decision and had asked the international team not to
> accept Russian photos in the international round.
>
> While we fully support the spread of free knowledge in various forms, we
> believe that it is not appropriate to promote on the international level
> photos from the country that wages a brutal war against Ukraine, kills
> thousands of Ukrainians – and systematically destroys and steals Ukrainian
> cultural, architectural and archaeological monuments.
>
> Besides, Russia’s war has deprived Ukrainian photos of equal conditions in
> the competition. While daily life in Russia continues largely as normal,
> Ukrainian photographers have had to operate in extremely difficult
> conditions and under many limitations – both the formal ones imposed for
> security reasons and the overall situation in Ukraine (power blackouts,
> problems with internet connectivity, personal hardship etc.)
>
> Therefore, we cannot accept Ukrainian photos competing alongside Russian
> ones – we do not think that in current circumstances it is the right thing
> to announce which Ukrainian photos are better and which are worse than
> Russian ones.
>
> We are grateful to Ukrainian participants and volunteers who have made the
> contest possible this year against the odds, as well as to international
> organizers for their hard work in supporting the largest photo contest in
> the Wikimedia ecosystem.
>
> Best regards,
> Olga Milianovych
> Member of the organizing committee for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine
>
> (Disclaimer: Antanana is a member of the Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
> organizing committee. Due to her currently serving on the Wikimedia
> Foundation Board of Trustees she recused herself from taking part in
> discussions and making decisions on this topic).
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Regarding the participation of Russia in Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

[Bodhisattwa]

Hi Rubén,

I find the decision of WLM international team completely reasonable to not
exclude Russian photographs from the competition.

Geopolitical differences and conflicts among governments should never be a
factor to sanction and obstruct volunteer activities from those nations. We
need to remind ourselves that the government and the Wikimedia volunteers
or affiliates of a country are different entities and the Wikimedia
communities cannot be held responsible for the action of their governments.
Russian heritage photographers have nothing to do with the Ukraine war and
they have equal rights to have their photographs compete and judged like
the other participating countries.

Also, WLM is not only a photography competiton, it's a way to digitally
preserve heritage. Digital conversation has inverse relationship with
destruction of war.

Apart from Ukraine, there are conflicts, invasions and wars happening in
the Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific and other regions. There had been
many in the past and surely there will be more in the future. WLM need not
have to be involved in all these geopolitical complexities and take sides,
rather if it can bridge gaps among people who are in conflicting countries
by including them all, it can rather play that significant role instead of
excluding and dividing them further.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 18:33 Rodelar  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> The Wiki Loves Monuments international team has been asked if photographs
> from Russia should be allowed or excluded from participating in this year's
> international contest. We have been in contact with the organising teams of
> Wiki Loves Monuments from Ukraine and from Russia to discuss this and to
> find a solution.
>
> We greatly appreciate that the team from Ukraine has organized the local
> edition of the competition while there is war in their country! We
> understand that there are reservations against seeing images from Ukraine
> and Russia presented side by side in the galleries of nominated or winning
> pictures.
>
> The volunteer team organising Wiki Loves Monuments Russia emphasizes to
> have no ties to the Russian government or the Russian Wikimedia affiliate.
> They are submitting the 10 finalist images to the international final round
> of Wiki Loves Monuments 2022, but the occupied areas, including Crimea and
> Sevastopol, have been excluded from the Wiki Loves monuments campaign.
> Also, in Russia there is no freedom of panorama for works of art. This
> excludes, in fact, any images of monuments and statues erected since World
> War II, and which for example glorify the war, from being legally uploaded
> to Wikimedia Commons.
>
> If images from Russia are excluded because of the war in Ukraine, this
> could, without being based on a rule for the competition, set a precedent
> for other territories where there is war around the world. Rules would have
> to found, before deciding case by case, if a country should not be allowed
> to send its nominations to Wiki Loves Monuments international.
>
> With these considerations in mind, the WLM organising team does not see a
> reason to exclude the submission of Russian finalists images to the
> international final round.
>
> On behalf of the WLM 2022 organising team,
>
> Rubén Ojeda
>
> International jury coordinator, Wiki Loves Monuments 2022
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Decision of WLM in Ukraine organizers not to submit photos for the international round

[Samuel Klein]

I appreciate this and the extraordinary photos of Ukrainian heritage that
came out of past years' contests, one of the fruits of which is sitting on
my wall.

❤️‍啕⚡, SJ



On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 10:46 AM Olga Milianovych <
olga.milianov...@wikimedia.org.ua> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> On behalf of the organizing team for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine I’m
> writing to inform you of our decision not to submit photos for the
> international round.
>
> Traditionally, Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine has been one of the biggest
> WLM local contests in the world, as well as among the biggest projects
> supported by Wikimedia Ukraine.
>
> This year, Ukraine and subsequently the contest has suffered from Russia’s
> full-scale invasion. Particularly, for security reasons the organizers had
> to limit submissions only to photos taken before February 24th, 2022, which
> is the date when Russia openly invaded Ukraine.
>
> Despite the limitations, we managed to organize the contest in 2022 and
> attract almost 14,000 photos of Ukrainian cultural heritage from almost 300
> participants. They illustrate over 5,300 monuments, including 351 monuments
> depicted for the first time.
>
> However, the local organizers will not be submitting Ukrainian photos for
> the international round because of the international organizers’ decisions
> to accept photos from Russia on the international stage. To be clear, we do
> not support this decision and had asked the international team not to
> accept Russian photos in the international round.
>
> While we fully support the spread of free knowledge in various forms, we
> believe that it is not appropriate to promote on the international level
> photos from the country that wages a brutal war against Ukraine, kills
> thousands of Ukrainians – and systematically destroys and steals Ukrainian
> cultural, architectural and archaeological monuments.
>
> Besides, Russia’s war has deprived Ukrainian photos of equal conditions in
> the competition. While daily life in Russia continues largely as normal,
> Ukrainian photographers have had to operate in extremely difficult
> conditions and under many limitations – both the formal ones imposed for
> security reasons and the overall situation in Ukraine (power blackouts,
> problems with internet connectivity, personal hardship etc.)
>
> Therefore, we cannot accept Ukrainian photos competing alongside Russian
> ones – we do not think that in current circumstances it is the right thing
> to announce which Ukrainian photos are better and which are worse than
> Russian ones.
>
> We are grateful to Ukrainian participants and volunteers who have made the
> contest possible this year against the odds, as well as to international
> organizers for their hard work in supporting the largest photo contest in
> the Wikimedia ecosystem.
>
> Best regards,
> Olga Milianovych
> Member of the organizing committee for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine
>
> (Disclaimer: Antanana is a member of the Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
> organizing committee. Due to her currently serving on the Wikimedia
> Foundation Board of Trustees she recused herself from taking part in
> discussions and making decisions on this topic).
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Decision of WLM in Ukraine organizers not to submit photos for the international round

[Olga Milianovych]

Hi all,

On behalf of the organizing team for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine I’m
writing to inform you of our decision not to submit photos for the
international round.

Traditionally, Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine has been one of the biggest
WLM local contests in the world, as well as among the biggest projects
supported by Wikimedia Ukraine.

This year, Ukraine and subsequently the contest has suffered from Russia’s
full-scale invasion. Particularly, for security reasons the organizers had
to limit submissions only to photos taken before February 24th, 2022, which
is the date when Russia openly invaded Ukraine.

Despite the limitations, we managed to organize the contest in 2022 and
attract almost 14,000 photos of Ukrainian cultural heritage from almost 300
participants. They illustrate over 5,300 monuments, including 351 monuments
depicted for the first time.

However, the local organizers will not be submitting Ukrainian photos for
the international round because of the international organizers’ decisions
to accept photos from Russia on the international stage. To be clear, we do
not support this decision and had asked the international team not to
accept Russian photos in the international round.

While we fully support the spread of free knowledge in various forms, we
believe that it is not appropriate to promote on the international level
photos from the country that wages a brutal war against Ukraine, kills
thousands of Ukrainians – and systematically destroys and steals Ukrainian
cultural, architectural and archaeological monuments.

Besides, Russia’s war has deprived Ukrainian photos of equal conditions in
the competition. While daily life in Russia continues largely as normal,
Ukrainian photographers have had to operate in extremely difficult
conditions and under many limitations – both the formal ones imposed for
security reasons and the overall situation in Ukraine (power blackouts,
problems with internet connectivity, personal hardship etc.)

Therefore, we cannot accept Ukrainian photos competing alongside Russian
ones – we do not think that in current circumstances it is the right thing
to announce which Ukrainian photos are better and which are worse than
Russian ones.

We are grateful to Ukrainian participants and volunteers who have made the
contest possible this year against the odds, as well as to international
organizers for their hard work in supporting the largest photo contest in
the Wikimedia ecosystem.

Best regards,
Olga Milianovych
Member of the organizing committee for Wiki Loves Monuments in Ukraine

(Disclaimer: Antanana is a member of the Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
organizing committee. Due to her currently serving on the Wikimedia
Foundation Board of Trustees she recused herself from taking part in
discussions and making decisions on this topic).
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Regarding the participation of Russia in Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

[Manfred Werner (WMAT)]

Hi Philip,
Finding a framework of rules seems to be necessary. As far as I know, 
but I am relatively new to the team of WLM international, this is the 
first time the question comes up if a country should be excluded from 
the international competition. Personally I'd see that as a 
contradiction to the basics of all the Wikimedia projects that aim to 
connect people from all over the world and to share among all of us. As 
long as the organisers are independent from political influence I see no 
reason to exclude them. Until now it always was one of the goals to 
include as many countries as possible.


Regarding subnational (or also transnational) entities it very much 
depends on who is organising the campaign there I think. It should at 
least be a group of people. New problems may arise if a monument is 
"claimed" by different groups I can imagine. On the other hand there 
might be situations with difficulties that are beyond our influence. 
Anyway we have to be careful (neutral and unpolitical) when trying to 
find regulations.


Best,
Manfred

Am 13.12.2022 um 15:44 schrieb Philip Kopetzky:

Betreff:
[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Regarding the participation of Russia in 
Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

Von:
Philip Kopetzky 
Datum:
13.12.2022, 15:44

An:
rodelarw...@gmail.com, Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition 




Hi Ruben,

thank for giving your reasoning - I would urge you and the team though 
to establish some rules (since you mention the lack of rules around 
this issue) for future competitions, since the war in Ukraine is not 
the only conflict happening right now and will unfortunately not be 
the last one either.


The same goes for establishing a logic around admitting countries and 
nations within certain countries. The 2030 strategy is quite clear on 
the fact that equity in participation and access to resources matters, 
and sticking to a country-by-country approach limits the viability of 
WLM for the architectural/cultural heritage of ethnic groups within a 
country (or is dependent on the benevolence of the majority group in 
that country)


Best,
Philip

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 21:03, Rodelar  wrote:

Hi everyone,

The Wiki Loves Monuments international team has been asked if
photographs from Russia should be allowed or excluded from
participating in this year's international contest. We have been
in contact with the organising teams of Wiki Loves Monuments from
Ukraine and from Russia to discuss this and to find a solution.

We greatly appreciate that the team from Ukraine has organized the
local edition of the competition while there is war in their
country! We understand that there are reservations against seeing
images from Ukraine and Russia presented side by side in the
galleries of nominated or winning pictures.

The volunteer team organising Wiki Loves Monuments Russia
emphasizes to have no ties to the Russian government or the
Russian Wikimedia affiliate. They are submitting the 10 finalist
images to the international final round of Wiki Loves Monuments
2022, but the occupied areas, including Crimea and Sevastopol,
have been excluded from the Wiki Loves monuments campaign. Also,
in Russia there is no freedom of panorama for works of art. This
excludes, in fact, any images of monuments and statues erected
since World War II, and which for example glorify the war, from
being legally uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.

If images from Russia are excluded because of the war in Ukraine,
this could, without being based on a rule for the competition, set
a precedent for other territories where there is war around the
world. Rules would have to found, before deciding case by case, if
a country should not be allowed to send its nominations to Wiki
Loves Monuments international.

With these considerations in mind, the WLM organising team does
not see a reason to exclude the submission of Russian finalists
images to the international final round.

On behalf of the WLM 2022 organising team,

Rubén Ojeda

International jury coordinator, Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Regarding the participation of Russia in Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

[Philip Kopetzky]

Hi Ruben,

thank for giving your reasoning - I would urge you and the team though to
establish some rules (since you mention the lack of rules around this
issue) for future competitions, since the war in Ukraine is not the only
conflict happening right now and will unfortunately not be the last one
either.

The same goes for establishing a logic around admitting countries and
nations within certain countries. The 2030 strategy is quite clear on the
fact that equity in participation and access to resources matters, and
sticking to a country-by-country approach limits the viability of WLM for
the architectural/cultural heritage of ethnic groups within a country (or
is dependent on the benevolence of the majority group in that country)

Best,
Philip

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 21:03, Rodelar  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> The Wiki Loves Monuments international team has been asked if photographs
> from Russia should be allowed or excluded from participating in this year's
> international contest. We have been in contact with the organising teams of
> Wiki Loves Monuments from Ukraine and from Russia to discuss this and to
> find a solution.
>
> We greatly appreciate that the team from Ukraine has organized the local
> edition of the competition while there is war in their country! We
> understand that there are reservations against seeing images from Ukraine
> and Russia presented side by side in the galleries of nominated or winning
> pictures.
>
> The volunteer team organising Wiki Loves Monuments Russia emphasizes to
> have no ties to the Russian government or the Russian Wikimedia affiliate.
> They are submitting the 10 finalist images to the international final round
> of Wiki Loves Monuments 2022, but the occupied areas, including Crimea and
> Sevastopol, have been excluded from the Wiki Loves monuments campaign.
> Also, in Russia there is no freedom of panorama for works of art. This
> excludes, in fact, any images of monuments and statues erected since World
> War II, and which for example glorify the war, from being legally uploaded
> to Wikimedia Commons.
>
> If images from Russia are excluded because of the war in Ukraine, this
> could, without being based on a rule for the competition, set a precedent
> for other territories where there is war around the world. Rules would have
> to found, before deciding case by case, if a country should not be allowed
> to send its nominations to Wiki Loves Monuments international.
>
> With these considerations in mind, the WLM organising team does not see a
> reason to exclude the submission of Russian finalists images to the
> international final round.
>
> On behalf of the WLM 2022 organising team,
>
> Rubén Ojeda
>
> International jury coordinator, Wiki Loves Monuments 2022
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Question about forms of institutional support

[Carolina Bayer]

Dear Axel,
These suggestions are very good!
I am grateful for your attention and for sending these materials.
As I'm new to Wikimedia, and I'm still understanding how it works and how I
can contribute as a volunteer. So sorry for the overposting. 

Best,
Carolina


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On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 10:39, Axel Pettersson 
wrote:

> Hi Carolina,
> WMB sounds like a great idea if it works out. Another possible way to go
> is to see if you can contact Kiwix as they offer their service as a fiscal
> sponsor. You can look at their presentation[1] from last Wikimania complete
> with recording[2], slides[3] and notes[4] and see if it's something for you.
>
> [1]
> https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2022:Submissions/I_am_a_Wikimedian,_not_an_accountant!_Here_is_how_fiscal_sponsorship_can_get_your_grant_going
> with
> [2] https://youtu.be/PK3cBL5nGkY
> [3]
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15E7dNEu__PbT577_tuQv05PUeuJzCxGwigaEk5dLnzs/edit#slide=id.g1423ababbe7_0_328
> [4]
> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wikimania2022-wikimedian-not-an-accountant
>
> Bästa hälsningar,
> /axel
>
> 
> Axel Pettersson (han/honom)
> Projektledare GLAM/Outreach
> Wikimedia Sverige
>
> +46 (0)733 96 55 65
> axel.petters...@wikimedia.se
>
> Twitter: @Haxpett 
>
> Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige.
> Läs mer på *wikimedia.se/sv/blimedlem *
>
>
> Den tis 13 dec. 2022 kl 14:21 skrev Carolina Bayer <
> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Ciell,
>>
>> Thank you for the advice!
>> To be honest, I haven't considered the Wiki Monumento Brasil yet. But I
>> will contact them.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Carolina
>>
>>
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>> Mobil +49 175 4465034
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 16:24, Ciell Wikipedia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carolina,
>>>
>>> Have you considered reaching out to Wiki Movimento Brasil
>>> , or would they not meet the requirements?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ciell
>>>
>>>
>>> Op wo 7 dec. 2022 om 16:48 schreef Carolina Bayer <
>>> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I am a Brazilian monument conservator, who lives in Germany. Recently I
 joined Wikimedia and as a member of the Project Let's go digital,
 Beuron Art
 ,
 I am photographing German murals outside Germany and writing new articles
 about Churches with this style of mural painting.

 I identified that in Rio de Janeiro there is a chapel with extremely
 rare frescoes in this style, which is abandoned and in need of restoration.
 It so happens that the *US Embassy in Brazil* has a call for funding
 
 for restoration projects. At the request of the chapel owner, I wrote
 a pro bono project to submit for this funding. :)

 However, a *non-profit* *international institution* or *organization*
 is required to be the *legal candidate* for this project at the *US
 embassy *in Brazil*.* *No financial assistance is required,* but
 support from a non-profit institution. Can anyone with experience in
 this area suggest any institutions? Could Wikimedia Deutschland e.V
 through WikiLovesMonuments support us?

 Best Regards,
 Carolina Bayer

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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Question about forms of institutional support

[Axel Pettersson]

Hi Carolina,
WMB sounds like a great idea if it works out. Another possible way to go is
to see if you can contact Kiwix as they offer their service as a fiscal
sponsor. You can look at their presentation[1] from last Wikimania complete
with recording[2], slides[3] and notes[4] and see if it's something for you.

[1]
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2022:Submissions/I_am_a_Wikimedian,_not_an_accountant!_Here_is_how_fiscal_sponsorship_can_get_your_grant_going
with
[2] https://youtu.be/PK3cBL5nGkY
[3]
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15E7dNEu__PbT577_tuQv05PUeuJzCxGwigaEk5dLnzs/edit#slide=id.g1423ababbe7_0_328
[4]
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wikimania2022-wikimedian-not-an-accountant

Bästa hälsningar,
/axel


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Den tis 13 dec. 2022 kl 14:21 skrev Carolina Bayer <
carolinna.ba...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Ciell,
>
> Thank you for the advice!
> To be honest, I haven't considered the Wiki Monumento Brasil yet. But I
> will contact them.
>
> Best regards,
> Carolina
>
>
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> Historikerin | Denkmalpflege
> Wilhelmsruher Damm 100 | 13439 Berlin
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> Mobil +49 175 4465034
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 16:24, Ciell Wikipedia 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Carolina,
>>
>> Have you considered reaching out to Wiki Movimento Brasil
>> , or would they not meet the requirements?
>>
>> Best,
>> Ciell
>>
>>
>> Op wo 7 dec. 2022 om 16:48 schreef Carolina Bayer <
>> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I am a Brazilian monument conservator, who lives in Germany. Recently I
>>> joined Wikimedia and as a member of the Project Let's go digital,
>>> Beuron Art
>>> ,
>>> I am photographing German murals outside Germany and writing new articles
>>> about Churches with this style of mural painting.
>>>
>>> I identified that in Rio de Janeiro there is a chapel with extremely
>>> rare frescoes in this style, which is abandoned and in need of restoration.
>>> It so happens that the *US Embassy in Brazil* has a call for funding
>>> 
>>> for restoration projects. At the request of the chapel owner, I wrote a
>>> pro bono project to submit for this funding. :)
>>>
>>> However, a *non-profit* *international institution* or *organization*
>>> is required to be the *legal candidate* for this project at the *US
>>> embassy *in Brazil*.* *No financial assistance is required,* but
>>> support from a non-profit institution. Can anyone with experience in
>>> this area suggest any institutions? Could Wikimedia Deutschland e.V
>>> through WikiLovesMonuments support us?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Carolina Bayer
>>>
>>> *___*
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>>> Historian | Heritage Conservation
>>> Wilhelmsruher Damm 100 | 13439 Berlin
>>> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com
>>> Tel.: +49 175 4465034
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Question about forms of institutional support

[Carolina Bayer]

Hi Ciell,

Thank you for the advice!
To be honest, I haven't considered the Wiki Monumento Brasil yet. But I
will contact them.

Best regards,
Carolina


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On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 at 16:24, Ciell Wikipedia 
wrote:

> Hi Carolina,
>
> Have you considered reaching out to Wiki Movimento Brasil
> , or would they not meet the requirements?
>
> Best,
> Ciell
>
>
> Op wo 7 dec. 2022 om 16:48 schreef Carolina Bayer <
> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am a Brazilian monument conservator, who lives in Germany. Recently I
>> joined Wikimedia and as a member of the Project Let's go digital, Beuron
>> Art
>> ,
>> I am photographing German murals outside Germany and writing new articles
>> about Churches with this style of mural painting.
>>
>> I identified that in Rio de Janeiro there is a chapel with extremely rare
>> frescoes in this style, which is abandoned and in need of restoration. It
>> so happens that the *US Embassy in Brazil* has a call for funding
>> 
>> for restoration projects. At the request of the chapel owner, I wrote a
>> pro bono project to submit for this funding. :)
>>
>> However, a *non-profit* *international institution* or *organization* is
>> required to be the *legal candidate* for this project at the *US embassy
>> *in Brazil*.* *No financial assistance is required,* but support from a
>> non-profit institution. Can anyone with experience in this area suggest
>> any institutions? Could Wikimedia Deutschland e.V through
>> WikiLovesMonuments support us?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Carolina Bayer
>>
>> *___*
>> *CAROLINA BAYER*
>> Historian | Heritage Conservation
>> Wilhelmsruher Damm 100 | 13439 Berlin
>> carolinna.ba...@gmail.com
>> Tel.: +49 175 4465034
>>
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Regarding the participation of Russia in Wiki Loves Monuments 2022

[Rodelar]

Hi everyone,

The Wiki Loves Monuments international team has been asked if photographs
from Russia should be allowed or excluded from participating in this year's
international contest. We have been in contact with the organising teams of
Wiki Loves Monuments from Ukraine and from Russia to discuss this and to
find a solution.

We greatly appreciate that the team from Ukraine has organized the local
edition of the competition while there is war in their country! We
understand that there are reservations against seeing images from Ukraine
and Russia presented side by side in the galleries of nominated or winning
pictures.

The volunteer team organising Wiki Loves Monuments Russia emphasizes to
have no ties to the Russian government or the Russian Wikimedia affiliate.
They are submitting the 10 finalist images to the international final round
of Wiki Loves Monuments 2022, but the occupied areas, including Crimea and
Sevastopol, have been excluded from the Wiki Loves monuments campaign.
Also, in Russia there is no freedom of panorama for works of art. This
excludes, in fact, any images of monuments and statues erected since World
War II, and which for example glorify the war, from being legally uploaded
to Wikimedia Commons.

If images from Russia are excluded because of the war in Ukraine, this
could, without being based on a rule for the competition, set a precedent
for other territories where there is war around the world. Rules would have
to found, before deciding case by case, if a country should not be allowed
to send its nominations to Wiki Loves Monuments international.

With these considerations in mind, the WLM organising team does not see a
reason to exclude the submission of Russian finalists images to the
international final round.

On behalf of the WLM 2022 organising team,

Rubén Ojeda

International jury coordinator, Wiki Loves Monuments 2022
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