Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Tomasz W . Kozłowski]

On 28 September 2012 12:30, Lodewijk wrote:

> the stories I heard so far outside this list are rather negative though - at
> least for the iPhone. Apparently the GPS doesn't work well outside the US
> and the way they upload their pictures is still a bit shaky. Also the source
> code doesn't see open source?

The code is just about 200-250 lines in Python, so it might not be as
usable as our official WLM application. I am, however, not able to
test it because my smartphone uses an old Android 2.1 :-(

> At the same time, it is interesting to see what an open API can do :)

They are not using any of our APIs at the moment; the data they use is
based on a recent Wikipedia dump, as I have been told, and has not
been updated since (as is the case with our database).

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Lodewijk]

Hi,

the stories I heard so far outside this list are rather negative though -
at least for the iPhone. Apparently the GPS doesn't work well outside the
US and the way they upload their pictures is still a bit shaky. Also the
source code doesn't see open source?

At the same time, it is interesting to see what an open API can do :)

Lodewijk

2012/9/27 Samuel Klein 

> This (app and response) is awesome.   SJ
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Cristian Consonni <
> kikkocrist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2012/9/26 Tomasz W. Kozłowski :
>> > We are now sorting out the behind-the-scenes technical details, and
>> > I'll let you know as soon as there is more update on this.
>>
>> Thank you for your prompt intervention, Tomasz.
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Samuel Klein]

This (app and response) is awesome.   SJ

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Cristian Consonni
wrote:

> 2012/9/26 Tomasz W. Kozłowski :
> > We are now sorting out the behind-the-scenes technical details, and
> > I'll let you know as soon as there is more update on this.
>
> Thank you for your prompt intervention, Tomasz.
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Cristian Consonni]

2012/9/26 Tomasz W. Kozłowski :
> We are now sorting out the behind-the-scenes technical details, and
> I'll let you know as soon as there is more update on this.

Thank you for your prompt intervention, Tomasz.

Cristian

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Tomasz W . Kozłowski]

On 26 September 2012 10:36, Strainu wrote:

> Right now, the page says: "By submitting a photograph to this project,
> you (i) affirm that the photograph is your original work and you have
> all sufficient right to grant the following license and (ii) hereby
> license the photograph under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
> Unported License."

This and the competition name visible on top of the page has been
changed after I got in touch with the Tasty Labs team, who are /very/
helpful and acting in good faith.

We are now sorting out the behind-the-scenes technical details, and
I'll let you know as soon as there is more update on this.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Strainu]

2012/9/25 Tomasz W. Kozłowski :
> On 25 September 2012 22:06, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>
>> Nice, but are the photos at http://wikipedia.human.io/ at Commons? What is
>> the license? Who is the author?
>
> I doubt it, looks like it's not that much of a good idea after all. It
> seems to me that the pictures are currently being uploaded to their
> server, and the pictures are copyrighted by Tasty Labs, Inc. Not to
> mention that they are using the Wikipedia trademark, and I very much
> doubt that they have contacted the Wikimedia Foundation about it.
>
> I'll be contacting Tasty Labs with all those questions in a minute.
>

Right now, the page says: "By submitting a photograph to this project,
you (i) affirm that the photograph is your original work and you have
all sufficient right to grant the following license and (ii) hereby
license the photograph under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
Unported License."

Strainu

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Tomasz W . Kozłowski]

Hi Arthur,
thanks for the information, it's greatly appreciated!

I have just written to Tasty Labs, asking them about their wrong use
of the name ("Wikipedia Loves Monuments"), the lack of attribution and
any mention of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 licence, and their plans of moving the
pictures to Commons.

It looks to me that their intention is good (helping Wikipedia), but
they missed some points that we, Wikimedians, tend to give more
importance than the Average Joe (or Joe Bloggs if you prefer British
English).

I should get back to you with more information as soon as I receive a
reply from Tasty Labs; please stay tuned!

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Arthur Richards]

I downloaded the app for android - it is very limited (particularly
compared to our WLM app), but when you select a monument to photograph it
asks you to confirm that the photo be licensed appropriately - at least
monuments near me are prompting for CC-BY-SA license. I presume [perhaps
incorrectly] that they're pulling the correct license information for the
campaigns, but I cannot be sure. However, the license does not appear to be
appropriately honored on their site and it is unclear how the photos get to
commons (or even if they do at all).

It would probably be wise to follow up with human.io to get these questions
answered publicly so users are not in danger of being misled.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski
wrote:

> On 25 September 2012 22:06, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>
> > Nice, but are the photos at http://wikipedia.human.io/ at Commons? What
> is
> > the license? Who is the author?
>
> I doubt it, looks like it's not that much of a good idea after all. It
> seems to me that the pictures are currently being uploaded to their
> server, and the pictures are copyrighted by Tasty Labs, Inc. Not to
> mention that they are using the Wikipedia trademark, and I very much
> doubt that they have contacted the Wikimedia Foundation about it.
>
> I'll be contacting Tasty Labs with all those questions in a minute.
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Tomasz W . Kozłowski]

On 25 September 2012 22:06, Maarten Dammers wrote:

> Nice, but are the photos at http://wikipedia.human.io/ at Commons? What is
> the license? Who is the author?

I doubt it, looks like it's not that much of a good idea after all. It
seems to me that the pictures are currently being uploaded to their
server, and the pictures are copyrighted by Tasty Labs, Inc. Not to
mention that they are using the Wikipedia trademark, and I very much
doubt that they have contacted the Wikimedia Foundation about it.

I'll be contacting Tasty Labs with all those questions in a minute.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Tomasz,

Op 25-9-2012 19:53, Tomasz W. Kozłowski schreef:

We've just been mentioned in an article on BoingBoing, see
.

I am absolutely stunned by the ways that people are using our data,
this is brilliant!
Nice, but are the photos at http://wikipedia.human.io/ at Commons? What 
is the license? Who is the author?


It does look good!

Maarten


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