[Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[WereSpielChequers]

Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this
morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times
I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page.

It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing.

WSC
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[Wikimedia-l] Knol is closing tomorrow

[emijrp]

Dear all;

First it was Encarta, then printed Britannica. Tomorrow, Knol.[1][2] It is
not a good moment for Wikipedia "rivals".

We at Archive Team are attempting to download all the 700,000 Knols.[3] For
the sake of history. Join us, #archiveteam EFNET.

Regards,
emijrp

[1] http://knol.google.com/k
[2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7144970.stm
[3] http://db.tt/GNrEh61y

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Contribute" box on wikimediafoundation.org

[Tobias]

On 04/30/2012 05:06 AM, Risker wrote:
> MZM, do you think you could make it more clear where exactly the links go
> to?  It's not clear that it is taking the user to another project where his
> message will be publicly accessible.  I am familiar with one case where
> someone clicked on one of those links, expecting that his message would go
> directly to the WMF and not be publicly available on Meta.  While there's
> something to be said for users having to be net-savvy, I think we're all
> just a little too used to open discussion on public forums, where there's
> no telling who might decide to respond and put their two cents in.

Fixed:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AEditnotice-0-Foundation_wiki_feedback&diff=3700930&oldid=3262052

Regards,
Tobias



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[Sarah]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers
 wrote:
> Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this
> morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times
> I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page.
>
> It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing.
>
> WSC

I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first
time -- I keep getting the "session expired" message, even when I've
only been on the page for a minute or so.  And editing has been
painfully slow.

Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP --
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues

It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been
noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the
difficulty saving.

Sarah

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

[Sumana Harihareswara]

Kozuch,

Others have responded to many of your other points.  I just wanted to
help with two things:

On 04/25/2012 02:49 PM, Jan Kučera wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yes, there surely were comments from developers... that is positive.
> But the result as general is still nothing at all (the feature is not
> even nearing deployment).

The reason that feature is not moving towards deployment is because of
the issues that the other developers explained in their Bugzilla
comments.  Can you help by asking Robert Horlings & Gérard de Smaele to
respond to those comments?  I have tried to contact them but haven't
heard any response.

> I am not a dev and thus can not contribute any code.
>
> Kozuch

We welcome the contributions of non-developers to the software
development process!  For example, you can:

* help test the software and file bug reports (example:
http://www.mkltesthead.com/2012/04/weekend-testing-on-march-5th-something.html
)
* help document the current state of engineering activity so everyone's
more aware of what's happening:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto
* join the wikitech-ambassadors list to help communicate between your
wiki communities and WMF about upcoming and desired changes:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors

And I see you're already on the Bug Squad to help monitor new incoming
bug reports and check whether old ones are still valid:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Bug_Squad Thank you!

Thanks.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[Maryana Pinchuk]

>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers
>  wrote:
> > Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this
> > morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times
> > I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change
> page.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing.
> >
> > WSC
>

Erm, not any experiment I know of! I believe it's a server issue, but I'll
wait for ops to chime in.

Maryana


>
> I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first
> time -- I keep getting the "session expired" message, even when I've
> only been on the page for a minute or so.  And editing has been
> painfully slow.
>
> Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP --
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues
>
> It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been
> noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the
> difficulty saving.
>
> Sarah
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!

[Denny Vrandečić]

I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about
Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ
that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better!

2012/4/29 Samuel Klein 

> Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently.  We could
> use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a
> compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can
> spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or
> schools on board.
>
> Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign.  It's really a
> very sexy project.  We could frame it as something universal: "free
> access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks."
>
> This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been
> encouraging people to link to it in their posts.
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero
>
> SJ
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[Samuel Klein]

Not planned perhaps, but I wish it were.  It would be fantastically
great for us to start serious experiments of all sorts for ten minutes
here and there, to begin to understand the subtle dynamics of
contribution.

SJ

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Maryana Pinchuk
 wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this
>> > morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times
>> > I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change
>> page.
>> >
>> > It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing.
>> >
>> > WSC
>>
>
> Erm, not any experiment I know of! I believe it's a server issue, but I'll
> wait for ops to chime in.
>
> Maryana
>
>
>>
>> I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first
>> time -- I keep getting the "session expired" message, even when I've
>> only been on the page for a minute or so.  And editing has been
>> painfully slow.
>>
>> Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP --
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues
>>
>> It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been
>> noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the
>> difficulty saving.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
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[Wikimedia-l] First IRC office hours with the editor engagement experiments team

[Steven Walling]

Hi everyone,

This Friday, May 4th, at 20:30 UTC the new editor engagement experiments
team will be hosting our first IRC office hours. In case you missed it, Sue
announced the creation of the team as a subset of the engineering and
product department back in March.[1]

Though we're still in the process of hiring a designer and developers,
we've already started an experiment or two,[2] which we'll be talking
about. More importantly, we're interested in discussing some of our future
ideas and how interested community members would like to see things set up
so they can contribute to experiments. In prep for that discussion, I'd
highly encourage everyone to read the FAQ we've put up and check out the
talk page with some community suggestions already rolling in.[3]

I know "editor engagement" can sound like a somewhat meaningless piece of
jargon, and something that may be of little interest to everyday
Wikimedians. But as an example and a small plug for why you should attend,
our first experiment is relevant to current changes in the software...
watchlist emails were recently enabled for all projects, and in the few
weeks prior to that, we've started testing what happens when you email
lapsed Wikipedians inviting them to come back and check their watchlist.

As usual, documentation on office hours is on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours

 1. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/276223
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Engagement_Experiments
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_engagement_experiments

Thanks, and hopefully we'll see you Friday!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!

[Mike Dupont]

Arianit Dobroshi has been working on getting free access in kosovo from
ipko,
mike

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Denny Vrandečić <
denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about
> Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ
> that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better!
>
> 2012/4/29 Samuel Klein 
>
> > Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently.  We could
> > use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a
> > compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can
> > spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or
> > schools on board.
> >
> > Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign.  It's really a
> > very sexy project.  We could frame it as something universal: "free
> > access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks."
> >
> > This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been
> > encouraging people to link to it in their posts.
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero
> >
> > SJ
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[Erik Moeller]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM, WereSpielChequers
 wrote:
> Having been logged off about ten times

Our memcached cluster (which handles session information) has been
experiencing stability issues in the last few weeks. Over the weekend,
we rebooted all memcached boxes to deal with a particular kernel
issue. Unfortunately there's no graceful failover, which caused
session issues to be temporarily exacerbated.

As far as we know the cluster should be stable at this point in time.
However, you may need to log out and log back in in order to fix the
issue for your account.

We're planning to add database backing to session handling and improve
the MediaWiki integration, to improve stability in the long term.

If you're still experiencing session issues after logging out and
logging back in, the best place to report them is this bug in
Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35900

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

[Mateus Nobre]

Hey, think positive.

We can use this time of just Ip editing, for get some data and analyze.

Just, like... Have you ever thought how many IPs are vandalism reversers?
and other stuff
:)

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Erik Moeller  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM, WereSpielChequers
>  wrote:
> > Having been logged off about ten times
>
> Our memcached cluster (which handles session information) has been
> experiencing stability issues in the last few weeks. Over the weekend,
> we rebooted all memcached boxes to deal with a particular kernel
> issue. Unfortunately there's no graceful failover, which caused
> session issues to be temporarily exacerbated.
>
> As far as we know the cluster should be stable at this point in time.
> However, you may need to log out and log back in in order to fix the
> issue for your account.
>
> We're planning to add database backing to session handling and improve
> the MediaWiki integration, to improve stability in the long term.
>
> If you're still experiencing session issues after logging out and
> logging back in, the best place to report them is this bug in
> Bugzilla:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35900
>
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> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>
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