[Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page. It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing. WSC ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Knol is closing tomorrow
Dear all; First it was Encarta, then printed Britannica. Tomorrow, Knol.[1][2] It is not a good moment for Wikipedia rivals. We at Archive Team are attempting to download all the 700,000 Knols.[3] For the sake of history. Join us, #archiveteam EFNET. Regards, emijrp [1] http://knol.google.com/k [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7144970.stm [3] http://db.tt/GNrEh61y -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page. It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing. WSC I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first time -- I keep getting the session expired message, even when I've only been on the page for a minute or so. And editing has been painfully slow. Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the difficulty saving. Sarah ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features
Kozuch, Others have responded to many of your other points. I just wanted to help with two things: On 04/25/2012 02:49 PM, Jan Kučera wrote: Hi, yes, there surely were comments from developers... that is positive. But the result as general is still nothing at all (the feature is not even nearing deployment). The reason that feature is not moving towards deployment is because of the issues that the other developers explained in their Bugzilla comments. Can you help by asking Robert Horlings Gérard de Smaele to respond to those comments? I have tried to contact them but haven't heard any response. I am not a dev and thus can not contribute any code. Kozuch We welcome the contributions of non-developers to the software development process! For example, you can: * help test the software and file bug reports (example: http://www.mkltesthead.com/2012/04/weekend-testing-on-march-5th-something.html ) * help document the current state of engineering activity so everyone's more aware of what's happening: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto * join the wikitech-ambassadors list to help communicate between your wiki communities and WMF about upcoming and desired changes: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors And I see you're already on the Bug Squad to help monitor new incoming bug reports and check whether old ones are still valid: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Bug_Squad Thank you! Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page. It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing. WSC Erm, not any experiment I know of! I believe it's a server issue, but I'll wait for ops to chime in. Maryana I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first time -- I keep getting the session expired message, even when I've only been on the page for a minute or so. And editing has been painfully slow. Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the difficulty saving. Sarah ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Maryana Pinchuk Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!
I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better! 2012/4/29 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or schools on board. Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign. It's really a very sexy project. We could frame it as something universal: free access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks. This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been encouraging people to link to it in their posts. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero SJ -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 2 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
Not planned perhaps, but I wish it were. It would be fantastically great for us to start serious experiments of all sorts for ten minutes here and there, to begin to understand the subtle dynamics of contribution. SJ On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page. It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing. WSC Erm, not any experiment I know of! I believe it's a server issue, but I'll wait for ops to chime in. Maryana I haven't been logged out, but very few of my edits are saving first time -- I keep getting the session expired message, even when I've only been on the page for a minute or so. And editing has been painfully slow. Lots of discussion about it at the PUMP -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29oldid=489919998#Loss_of_session_data_and_slowness_issues It seems to have started for some people on April 10th. I've been noticing the slow speed for a couple of days, and since yesterday the difficulty saving. Sarah ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Maryana Pinchuk Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] First IRC office hours with the editor engagement experiments team
Hi everyone, This Friday, May 4th, at 20:30 UTC the new editor engagement experiments team will be hosting our first IRC office hours. In case you missed it, Sue announced the creation of the team as a subset of the engineering and product department back in March.[1] Though we're still in the process of hiring a designer and developers, we've already started an experiment or two,[2] which we'll be talking about. More importantly, we're interested in discussing some of our future ideas and how interested community members would like to see things set up so they can contribute to experiments. In prep for that discussion, I'd highly encourage everyone to read the FAQ we've put up and check out the talk page with some community suggestions already rolling in.[3] I know editor engagement can sound like a somewhat meaningless piece of jargon, and something that may be of little interest to everyday Wikimedians. But as an example and a small plug for why you should attend, our first experiment is relevant to current changes in the software... watchlist emails were recently enabled for all projects, and in the few weeks prior to that, we've started testing what happens when you email lapsed Wikipedians inviting them to come back and check their watchlist. As usual, documentation on office hours is on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 1. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/276223 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Engagement_Experiments 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_engagement_experiments Thanks, and hopefully we'll see you Friday! -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!
Arianit Dobroshi has been working on getting free access in kosovo from ipko, mike On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better! 2012/4/29 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or schools on board. Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign. It's really a very sexy project. We could frame it as something universal: free access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks. This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been encouraging people to link to it in their posts. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero SJ -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 2 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Having been logged off about ten times Our memcached cluster (which handles session information) has been experiencing stability issues in the last few weeks. Over the weekend, we rebooted all memcached boxes to deal with a particular kernel issue. Unfortunately there's no graceful failover, which caused session issues to be temporarily exacerbated. As far as we know the cluster should be stable at this point in time. However, you may need to log out and log back in in order to fix the issue for your account. We're planning to add database backing to session handling and improve the MediaWiki integration, to improve stability in the long term. If you're still experiencing session issues after logging out and logging back in, the best place to report them is this bug in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35900 -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia
Hey, think positive. We can use this time of just Ip editing, for get some data and analyze. Just, like... Have you ever thought how many IPs are vandalism reversers? and other stuff :) On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Having been logged off about ten times Our memcached cluster (which handles session information) has been experiencing stability issues in the last few weeks. Over the weekend, we rebooted all memcached boxes to deal with a particular kernel issue. Unfortunately there's no graceful failover, which caused session issues to be temporarily exacerbated. As far as we know the cluster should be stable at this point in time. However, you may need to log out and log back in in order to fix the issue for your account. We're planning to add database backing to session handling and improve the MediaWiki integration, to improve stability in the long term. If you're still experiencing session issues after logging out and logging back in, the best place to report them is this bug in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35900 -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- _ *M*ateus*N*obre Free knowledge, free software, free culture, open data. *Freedom, acessibility, autonomy, openess, independence, transparency. That's our way.* *And yours?* +55 (84) 8896 - 1628 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
