Re: [Wikimedia-l] FreeBSD fate and the lesson for Wikimedia movement
On 10 Dec 2012, at 02:03, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: The news from today is that FreeBSD didn't succeed to gather enough money during their annual fundraising [1][2]. They only started their annual fundraising campaign 5 days ago: http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/year-end-fundraising-campaign.html (found via Zamphatta's comment on /.) Presumably it still has a while to run yet… Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Minutes of WMF Board: October 26-27, 2012, meeting
Hi Bence, Arne was not present, and the minutes have been corrected. Thanks for catching that. Geoff Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:58:32 +0100 From: Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Minutes of WMF Board: October 26-27, 2012, meeting Message-ID: CAFeYUi3_4kzwP9etYSftWbrZcCFM= lvc+eaxztuofmhkkig...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Geoff, Thanks for sharing these minutes (and on a Saturday, at that!) This is probably an error in the minutes, but was Arne present at the October meeting as a trustee? Best regards, Bence On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, The minutes of the WMF board meeting of October 26-27, 2012, have been ratified and published here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2012-10-26 . Regards, Geoff -- Geoff Brigham General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Guidance for article tranlators
I wrote a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translate_us to offer guidance to translators wishing to translate Wikipedia articles /from/ English to other languages. You may wish to have that translated for your own languages; or to interwiki link pages which already exist for that purpose. The English guidance for people translating from other language Wikipedias /into/ English is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FreeBSD fate and the lesson for Wikimedia movement
Furthermore, WordPress is actually not strong in the government/enterprise space. Instead Drupal is with direct outreach to institutions. The difference in DrupalCon vs. WordCamp SF reflect this. WordPress presence (around 9% of all domains on the internet) in addition to a rapid decline in the dominant player in ots space (MoveableType) started out with a relatively well defined problem area to focus on: blogging. Drupal and MediaWiki have begun as more generalized problems first (cms and wiki) that are opaque to the average non-developer. MediaWiki has further been hampered by its original sin: transclusion followed by templates, gadgets, etc. What this has done is built a whole ecosystem of stuff dependent in the platform. This makes it more stable by the stable dependencies principle. Stable in this context is bad because it means resistant to change at this level (MediaWiki core) and thus it is less adaptable to changes that would create as viable a 3rd party support as WordPress enjoys. Not to say some effort here shouldn't be enjoined. I just wanted to emphasize the difficulty of the problem and realize that effort on this front comes at the cost of efforts elsewhere (VisualEditor for example). Where possible engineers have worked to pay down this technical debt with cleaner abstraction and establishment looser coupling between components through contract-based design (example: parsoid in VE interacts with core through the API). Some of our best engineers started out as and still maintain 3rd party MediaWiki instances so the interest and ability is there. I hope this helps explain a small of the puzzle about WordPress vs. MeediaWiki. Take care, Terry Sent from my free corporate advertising removed at the request of the owner On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:51 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: The CIA version added ACLs. Never say never... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 10:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 December 2012 05:17, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Wordpress' strong card is its rather stable PHP-based platform, and when you think of it, that platform is not much more technically advanced than MediaWiki is, but it has a much more vibrant community of users. And when I say vibrant, I mean lots of people make money out of installing Wordpress for their clients. I know that it's a dirty question, but did anyone ever try to estimate how much money is made around the world from maintaining MediaWiki sites? Not a huge amount. MediaWiki needs to be a *lot* more popular for the enterprise. Compared to Confluence, it lacks the tick-box items ACLs and WYSIWYG; it'll never have ACLs, but the visual editor should help a great deal. Confluence is also one of the few things I can think of that makes MediaWiki look lightweight. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Office hours with Sue
Hello, all. Sue Gardner, the Wikimedia Foundation's Executive Director, is doing an IRC office hours on Saturday December 15 at 18:30:00 UTC. There is not currently an agenda set for the meeting, but I will update the particulars on Meta if that changes. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours for particulars. Thanks! Maggie -- Maggie Dennis Community Liaison WikimediaFoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Minutes of WMF Board: October 26-27, 2012, meeting
Doing a quick scan of the minutes, I would be interested to know what steps are planned to ameliorate the increased lack of transparency that will be necessarily follow from an increased number of decisions made without official resolution to record them? -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] News24 (.za): SA learners lobby for free Wikipedia
Thank you for sharing! *Med vänliga hälsningar/ Kind regards, Sophie Österberg 0733-832670 sophie.osterb...@wikimedia.se* *Varje bidrag till Wikipedia är en gåva av fri kunskap till mänskligheten. * 2012/12/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Wikipedia Zero is popular! This sort of thing should remind us why we bother doing all of this. http://www.news24.com/Technology/News/SA-learners-lobby-for-free-Wikipedia-20121210 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- * * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
