Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Sarah Stierch]

Beautifully written, Erik. Really touching. Thank you everyone for 
getting this blog up in such a timely manner.


-Sarah

On 1/12/13 10:45 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote:

The blog post it out now:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/12/remembering-aaron-swartz-1986-2013/





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Tilman Bayer]

The blog post it out now:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/12/remembering-aaron-swartz-1986-2013/

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Jay Walsh  wrote:
>> > Official statement from the family:
>> >
>> > http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
>> > statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of<
>> http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of
>> >
>> >
>> > I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog
>> about
>> > his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a
>> > community project.
>> >
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog<
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog>
>> >
>> > -Sarah
>> >
>>
>> I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
>> (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
>> respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the
>> Foundation.
>>
>> I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons
>> or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
>> supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks
>> posted.
>>
>>
> Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard
> to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was
> everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that
> Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy.
>
> Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia
> blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community
> memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be
> recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the
> memorial referenced by his family.
>
> Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to
> propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many
> voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be
> great to share that.
>
> jay
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[James Salsman]

Jay Walsh wrote:
>...
> Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia 
> blog

Please consider including summaries of the following:

http://rememberaaronsw.tumblr.com/post/40372208044/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of-aaron

http://unhandled.com/2013/01/12/the-truth-about-aaron-swartzs-crime/

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/aaron-swartz-felony/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/harveysilverglate/2013/01/03/black-whitey-how-the-feds-disable-criminal-defense/

The Forbes link explains the current Justice department's general
strategy of which the superseding indictment changes described in the
Wired link is a typical example. http://wh.gov/E3v1 and
http://wh.gov/E3LM are very well justified by these circumstances,
too, in my opinion.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congrats wikivoyagers!

[Jay Walsh]

We're also reaching out to

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Leslie Carr  wrote:
> > http://www.wired.com/business/2013/01/wikivoyage/
> >
> > An awesome writeup in Wired!
>
> Argh; Sarah Mitroff calls wikivoyage "a new travel-focused wiki" ;-(
> and then continues to present Wikivoyage as a new entrant into this
> space. "It’s a great notion, but Wikivoyage is coming late to the
> already crowded travel industry.."
>
> The article also includes a video of Jimmy on Colbert Nation hosted at
> http://hulu.com which can only be seen in the USA (and Japan?).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu
>
> This story covers the launch better, but I think it puts too much
> emphasis on the lawsuits:
>
>
> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2024997/wikipedia-launches-travel-site-wikivoyage-on-january-15.html
>
> Anyone found a better wikivoyage launch news stories that is accurate
> and can be accessed outside of USA and Japan?
>
> --
> John Vandenberg
>
>
>
We're also reaching out to PC World on the incorrect stuff the published in
this piece, just FYI.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Andy Mabbett]

I started something on [[WP:RIP]].
On Jan 13, 2013 12:45 AM, "Jay Walsh"  wrote:

> > > Official statement from the family:
> > >
> > > http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
> > > statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of<
> >
> http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog
> > about
> > > his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be
> a
> > > community project.
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog<
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog>
> > >
> > > -Sarah
> > >
> >
> > I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
> > (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
> > respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the
> > Foundation.
> >
> > I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons
> > or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
> > supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep
> folks
> > posted.
> >
> >
> Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard
> to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was
> everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that
> Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy.
>
> Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia
> blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community
> memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be
> recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the
> memorial referenced by his family.
>
> Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to
> propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many
> voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be
> great to share that.
>
> jay
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Jay Walsh]

> > Official statement from the family:
> >
> > http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
> > statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of<
> http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of
> >
> >
> > I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog
> about
> > his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a
> > community project.
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog<
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog>
> >
> > -Sarah
> >
>
> I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
> (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
> respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the
> Foundation.
>
> I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons
> or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
> supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks
> posted.
>
>
Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard
to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was
everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that
Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy.

Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia
blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community
memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be
recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the
memorial referenced by his family.

Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to
propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many
voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be
great to share that.

jay


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Steven Walling]

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

> Official statement from the family:
>
> http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
> statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of
>
> I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about
> his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a
> community project.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog
>
> -Sarah
>

I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
(myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the Foundation.

I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons
or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks
posted.

Steven
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:45:52 -0800, Steven Walling wrote:
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk 
wrote:




As one step toward properly welcoming Wikivoyagers... are many of 
them on
this list? It would be cool to get some replies and short 
introductions

from those that are. :)

It might also be good to cross-post this to the Traveller's Pub in 
English,

German, and others we can.

Steven
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Well, some of us, yes.

The best place to forward it would be the Wikivoyage mailing list. If 
nobody does it before, I will try in the morning European time.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Sarah Stierch]

Official statement from the family:

http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of

I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog 
about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This 
could be a community project.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog

-Sarah


On 1/12/13 2:58 PM, James Salsman wrote:

Aaron explained how he originally measured Wikipedia contributions:
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/swartz2006 -- which is
only linked through the bibliography he kept up on the topic
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/ which is linked at the
end of the main essay. Less than a month ago we tweeted back and forth
about weighting those statistics by pageviews.

His best work might be his summary of Galbraith's _Predator State_:
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/predatorstate

"when we were fellows together at the Harvard Center for Ethics, I
think we annoyed everyone else with our repeated insistence that
reducing economic inequality was somehow always the appropriate
solution to each of the many social ills the group identified" --
http://crookedtimber.org/2012/06/18/guest-review-by-aaron-swartz-chris-hayes-the-twilight-of-the-elites/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

This is the worst news of last year for Wikimedia, Aaron has been a 
genial and precious member of our community.

But nothing really meaningful can be said or done now...

Nemo


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[James Salsman]

Aaron explained how he originally measured Wikipedia contributions:
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/swartz2006 -- which is
only linked through the bibliography he kept up on the topic
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/ which is linked at the
end of the main essay. Less than a month ago we tweeted back and forth
about weighting those statistics by pageviews.

His best work might be his summary of Galbraith's _Predator State_:
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/predatorstate

"when we were fellows together at the Harvard Center for Ethics, I
think we annoyed everyone else with our repeated insistence that
reducing economic inequality was somehow always the appropriate
solution to each of the many social ills the group identified" --
http://crookedtimber.org/2012/06/18/guest-review-by-aaron-swartz-chris-hayes-the-twilight-of-the-elites/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

[Steven Walling]

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Since November 2012, Wikivoyage is a part of the Wikimedia movement. I
> have come to some thoughts about this old/new project, both from the
> perspective of a collaborator and from the perspective of the
> movement.
>
> Chance:
> Wikivoyage has a huge potential; it may open the movement for new
> collaborators who were not attracted enough by Wikipedia. There is
> still low hanging fruit, and there are working chapters - and the WMF
> - to support the new family member. Integrating Wikivoyage is also a
> challenge for the movement, it has to prove that it is capable to do
> so. (And recommend itself for other wikis to join.)
>
> Bore:
> But, if Wikivoyage fails to make use of its potential, it will be one
> more Wikimedia wiki rather small and limited in range, such as
> Wikiquote or Wikinews. A community grown over the years may be good in
> binding (linking the existing members to each other), but less in
> bridging (being open for new members and contacting others). We see
> the same phenomenon (that new people find it difficult their way, or
> are even expelled more or less explicitly) also with Wikipedia, but on
> a much higher level. Also Wikipedia loses community members slowly,
> with difficulties acquiring new ones.
>
> Hazard:
> Wikipedia developed a lot of rules over the years, often after heavy
> debates and scandals. For example, the Seigenthaler incident and other
> cases of calumny led to the policy about Biographies of Living People.
> Wikivoyage has still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to
> remain so. Wikipedia is neutral, Wikipedia uses references, while
> Wikivoyage allows to criticize e.g. a restaurant and does not require
> a source. But where is the limit between exercising one's freedom of
> speech and libel? Scandals can backfire to the whole movement.
>
> In my humble opinion, this is a good moment for Wikivoyagers (old and
> new ones alike) to engage in discussions about style, limitations,
> good practices, and improve the site to make it newbies easier to
> join. With the good will from all sides, Wikivoyage should become a
> chance for the movement rather than anything else.
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
Thanks for the thoughtful commentary Ziko.

As one step toward properly welcoming Wikivoyagers... are many of them on
this list? It would be cool to get some replies and short introductions
from those that are. :)

It might also be good to cross-post this to the Traveller's Pub in English,
German, and others we can.

Steven
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Craig Franklin]

What a dreadful loss.  I never knew Aaron except through his work and his
writings, but he always came across as a confident person who was truly
passionate about the work that he did.  We're all the poorer for his
passing.  My condolences to everyone on this list who knew him.

Regards,
Craig Franklin
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

[Ziko van Dijk]

Dear colleagues,

Since November 2012, Wikivoyage is a part of the Wikimedia movement. I
have come to some thoughts about this old/new project, both from the
perspective of a collaborator and from the perspective of the
movement.

Chance:
Wikivoyage has a huge potential; it may open the movement for new
collaborators who were not attracted enough by Wikipedia. There is
still low hanging fruit, and there are working chapters - and the WMF
- to support the new family member. Integrating Wikivoyage is also a
challenge for the movement, it has to prove that it is capable to do
so. (And recommend itself for other wikis to join.)

Bore:
But, if Wikivoyage fails to make use of its potential, it will be one
more Wikimedia wiki rather small and limited in range, such as
Wikiquote or Wikinews. A community grown over the years may be good in
binding (linking the existing members to each other), but less in
bridging (being open for new members and contacting others). We see
the same phenomenon (that new people find it difficult their way, or
are even expelled more or less explicitly) also with Wikipedia, but on
a much higher level. Also Wikipedia loses community members slowly,
with difficulties acquiring new ones.

Hazard:
Wikipedia developed a lot of rules over the years, often after heavy
debates and scandals. For example, the Seigenthaler incident and other
cases of calumny led to the policy about Biographies of Living People.
Wikivoyage has still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to
remain so. Wikipedia is neutral, Wikipedia uses references, while
Wikivoyage allows to criticize e.g. a restaurant and does not require
a source. But where is the limit between exercising one's freedom of
speech and libel? Scandals can backfire to the whole movement.

In my humble opinion, this is a good moment for Wikivoyagers (old and
new ones alike) to engage in discussions about style, limitations,
good practices, and improve the site to make it newbies easier to
join. With the good will from all sides, Wikivoyage should become a
chance for the movement rather than anything else.

Kind regards
Ziko





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[David Gerard]

NYT: 
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[David Gerard]

On 12 January 2013 19:37, FT2  wrote:

> A few posts if anyone here's not aware of Aaron  (see also his Wikipedia
> bio)


Even Tim Berners-Lee weighs in (and he basically keeps quiet about
almost everything):

https://twitter.com/timberners_lee/statuses/290140454211698689

"Aaron dead. World wanderers, we have lost a wise elder. Hackers for
right, we are one down. Parents all, we have lost a child. Let us
weep."


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Keegan Peterzell]

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
ezalvare...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I just created an article for him on Portuguese Wikipedia.
>
> I want to improve about this "On July 19, 2011, he was arrested for
> harvesting academic journal articles from JSTOR."
>
> Very sad.
>
> Tom


This link should help expand on that, "Internet activist accused of data
theft."

 http://boingboing.net/2011/07/19/swartz.html

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Todd Allen]

This is terrible to hear. We've lost a brilliant mind far too soon.


On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:04 AM, David Gerard  wrote:

> Killed himself.
>
> http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>
>
> - d.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[FT2]

A few posts if anyone here's not aware of Aaron  (see also his Wikipedia
bio)

   -
   
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html
   - http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick - Aaron's blog post on himself
   - http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully - by
   Lawrence Lessig
   -
   
http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/01/academic-libraries/many-jstor-journal-archives-now-free-to-public-
3 days ago


FT2


On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kat Walsh  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:04 AM, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > Killed himself.
> >
> > http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
>
>
> Oh, Aaron. I remember meeting him, after reading some of his writing, and
> being surprised to find the person behind the mental voice, introverted and
> thoughtful and a little awkward, in contrast to the boldness of his blog.
>
> I considered him a friend, though I wish I'd known him better; I remember
> talking to him, often in a smaller gathering of nerds after some conference
> or event, about copyright, the open web, Wikipedia, social structures, and
> usually about some problem or another that existed in the world. And unlike
> almost anyone else, a short time later Aaron would have founded an
> organization or taken on some big project or pulled some crazy stunt to try
> to fix that problem, because that's just what he did. And sometimes he
> succeeded.
>
> What a huge loss.
>
> -Kat
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Kat Walsh]

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:04 AM, David Gerard  wrote:

> Killed himself.
>
> http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>
>
> - d.
>


Oh, Aaron. I remember meeting him, after reading some of his writing, and
being surprised to find the person behind the mental voice, introverted and
thoughtful and a little awkward, in contrast to the boldness of his blog.

I considered him a friend, though I wish I'd known him better; I remember
talking to him, often in a smaller gathering of nerds after some conference
or event, about copyright, the open web, Wikipedia, social structures, and
usually about some problem or another that existed in the world. And unlike
almost anyone else, a short time later Aaron would have founded an
organization or taken on some big project or pulled some crazy stunt to try
to fix that problem, because that's just what he did. And sometimes he
succeeded.

What a huge loss.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Gregory Varnum]

Condolences to all that knew him - very tragic - especially at such a young age.

If my memory is correct (and that's a gamble) I seem to recall knowing about 
him more from his work on early RSS around the age of 13.  I was in college 
doing websites at the time and recall being rather impressed with someone so 
young making such a widespread impact on the core of the web.

-greg aka varnent


On 12 Jan, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Thanks for the information, and my condoleances to those who knew him.
> Sounds like a very, very interesting person.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
> 
> 2013/1/12 Everton Zanella Alvarenga :
>> [...]
>> 
>> "The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a
>> free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or
>> reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing,
>> added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and
>> was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best
>> new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew
>> at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have
>> anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years
>> later, my mother pointed me to this new site called "Wikipedia" that
>> was doing the same thing.)"
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> From "How to Get a Job Like Mine" .
>> 
>> Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller  wrote:
>>> As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian
>>> since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings
>>> during his election campaign are worth re-reading:
>>> 
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias
>>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw
>>> 
>>> He was also described as "one of the early architects of Creative
>>> Commons" by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into
>>> Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well.
>>> 
>>> Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress
>>> which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including
>>> SOPA/PIPA.
>>> 
>>> Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a
>>> video of Aaron's talk "How we stopped SOPA".
>>> 
>>> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html
>>> 
>>> Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who
>>> dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did.
>>> It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he
>>> saw no other way. May he rest in peace.
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Ziko van Dijk]

Thanks for the information, and my condoleances to those who knew him.
Sounds like a very, very interesting person.
Kind regards
Ziko

2013/1/12 Everton Zanella Alvarenga :
> [...]
>
> "The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a
> free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or
> reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing,
> added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and
> was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best
> new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew
> at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have
> anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years
> later, my mother pointed me to this new site called "Wikipedia" that
> was doing the same thing.)"
>
> [...]
>
> From "How to Get a Job Like Mine" .
>
> Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller  wrote:
>> As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian
>> since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings
>> during his election campaign are worth re-reading:
>>
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias
>> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw
>>
>> He was also described as "one of the early architects of Creative
>> Commons" by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into
>> Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well.
>>
>> Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress
>> which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including
>> SOPA/PIPA.
>>
>> Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a
>> video of Aaron's talk "How we stopped SOPA".
>>
>> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html
>>
>> Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who
>> dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did.
>> It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he
>> saw no other way. May he rest in peace.
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Everton Zanella Alvarenga]

[...]

"The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a
free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or
reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing,
added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and
was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best
new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew
at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have
anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years
later, my mother pointed me to this new site called "Wikipedia" that
was doing the same thing.)"

[...]

>From "How to Get a Job Like Mine" .

Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us.

Tom

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller  wrote:
> As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian
> since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings
> during his election campaign are worth re-reading:
>
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw
>
> He was also described as "one of the early architects of Creative
> Commons" by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into
> Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well.
>
> Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress
> which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including
> SOPA/PIPA.
>
> Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a
> video of Aaron's talk "How we stopped SOPA".
>
> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html
>
> Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who
> dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did.
> It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he
> saw no other way. May he rest in peace.
>
> Erik
>
> [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Erik Moeller]

As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian
since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings
during his election campaign are worth re-reading:

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw

He was also described as "one of the early architects of Creative
Commons" by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into
Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well.

Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress
which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including
SOPA/PIPA.

Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a
video of Aaron's talk "How we stopped SOPA".

http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html

Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who
dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did.
It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he
saw no other way. May he rest in peace.

Erik

[1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

[Thomas Dalton]

On Jan 12, 2013 3:38 PM, "Rui Correia"  wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues
>
> Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about
> exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the
> issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and
> when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level
> (Wikipedia top level).

I'm afraid it is extremely unusual for the wider community to intervene in
the internal affairs of a project.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:46:57 +0100, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

On the other hand, nothing ever will be done about it outside these
projects. I do not see WMF ever stepping down, under any
circumstances. One can open RFC on Meta, which has 100% chance of


Sorry, obviously meant "stepping in"

Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:37:56 +0200, Rui Correia wrote:

Dear Colleagues

Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about
exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are 
the
issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community 
and

when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level
(Wikipedia top level).

...


Best regards,

Rui


Indeed, among the top-10 Wikipedias the Portuguese and the Russian ones 
have the reputation of the projects where users are more preoccupied 
with fighting each other and proving points (in the sense of 
[[:en:WP:POINT]]) that with creating encyclopedia.


On the other hand, nothing ever will be done about it outside these 
projects. I do not see WMF ever stepping down, under any circumstances. 
One can open RFC on Meta, which has 100% chance of leading nowhere. Even 
admins of minor projects, with a long history of abuse, in practice 
always never get desysopped.


Therefore, I am sorry to say, if you can not defend your cause inside 
the project, forget about it.


(This does not mean I agree with you that you cause is the right one; 
in fact I have no opinion).


Cheers
Yaroslav

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[Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

[Rui Correia]

Dear Colleagues

Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about
exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the
issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and
when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level
(Wikipedia top level).

There are a number of rogue elements that everybody has given up crossing
swords with, and wherever these elements go, everybody stays away. One
specific member has a track record a mile long of complaints against him,
has been blocked many times, but does not learn and has in fact
demonstrated that he has no intention to learn.

Ask the more involved members about these rogue elements and ask also about
the top-notch editors that have been abandoning the project in recent
times.

It is no use leaving this to be addressed by the Portuguese WP, as they
have so far not been able to deal with these elements.

Do a search for the word "panelinha" (the "clique"/ "coterie" among the
discussion archives ad you will see how often RESPECTED editors complain
about this inner circle/ clique of repeat abusers who thrive on power and
discord, spending their days undoing what others do.

Until there are firm rules in place to ban these rogues, WP Portuguese will
keep on bleeding its best.

I have collected a number of links with countless discussions/ warning
about the editor I referred to above - all in Portuguese, naturally - which
I can pass on to anyone who wants to look into this. I do hope someone
does.

Best regards,

Rui





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Sumana Harihareswara]

It's shocking, horrible news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AaronSw/Election - he ran for the
Board in 2006.  See http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians
"Making More Wikipedians".

Some more links and memories at
http://www.metafilter.com/123777/Open-access-open-internet-closed-book .

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[David Gerard]

On 12 January 2013 15:01, Mathias Schindler  wrote:

> He was an author (user:aaronsw) and developer, among others.


Also came up with the study showing that most content contribution is
done by drive-by editors:

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia

So a few hundred people do the curation work - but the original
writing is done by lots and lots of people.


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Everton Zanella Alvarenga]

I just created an article for him on Portuguese Wikipedia.

I want to improve about this "On July 19, 2011, he was arrested for
harvesting academic journal articles from JSTOR."

Very sad.

Tom

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the
> Wikimedia movement?
> Kind regards
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>
> 2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni :
>> I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae  wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard  wrote:
>>> > Killed himself.
>>> >
>>> > http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>>>
>>> Awful news.
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[Mathias Schindler]

He was an author (user:aaronsw) and developer, among others.

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the
> Wikimedia movement?
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> 2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni :
>> I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae  wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard  wrote:
>>> > Killed himself.
>>> >
>>> > http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>>>
>>> Awful news.
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[Ziko van Dijk]

Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the
Wikimedia movement?
Kind regards
Ziko

2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni :
> I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae  wrote:
>
>> On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard  wrote:
>> > Killed himself.
>> >
>> > http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>>
>> Awful news.
>>
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[Andrea Zanni]

I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news.


On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae  wrote:

> On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard  wrote:
> > Killed himself.
> >
> > http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
>
> Awful news.
>
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[Fae]

On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard  wrote:
> Killed himself.
>
> http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html

Awful news.

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[Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

[David Gerard]

Killed himself.

http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] No access to the Uzbek Wikipedia in Uzbekistan

[Anonymous User]

Dear all, dear Tim,

I want to extend the "thank you" from the Uzbek Wikipedia community. I let
them use their own words (although, translated for the benefit of this
list).

user 1: wow, it's great! who has done it
user 2: wikimedia programmers
user 1; super! real heroes!
user 3: thank you, thank you, thank you!
user 4: so now we're waiting for google to index uzwiki
user 2: it's awesome, i cannot even express how awesome it is
user 2: Thank you guys for helping us. And special thanks to Tim Starling.
user 2: We're going to introduce Tim Starling day in Uzbek Wikipedia as well

I also pinged my contacts at Google, hoping that they can schedule the
reindexing soon. Thanks to everyone involved.

Rahmat va salomlar!





On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Tim Starling wrote:

> On 24/12/12 20:23, Anonymous User wrote:
> > I don't know how much effort each of these two measures would be. If
> you'd
> > ask me, I would suggest to be "very serious", but we are not under a
> > deadline (the situation has been like this for more than a year now), and
> > setting the rel="caonical" would already be really, really helpful.
>
> This is done now. It would be good if Google could crawl
> uz.wikipedia.org to update the canonical URLs.
>
> In case anyone is wondering, I don't think this would be a good thing
> to do on zh.wikipedia.org. The Chinese government would happily block
> *.wikipedia.org port 443 if it became popular. At least the current
> situation provides a way to work around keyword filtering for people
> who are sufficiently motivated -- if HTTPS was blocked, it would be
> much less useful.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp

[Anders Wennersten]

Andrew Gray skrev 2013-01-12 11:58:

On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten  wrote:
Wow!

Very interested to see you got community support for this - normally
it's sharply the other way around.
We had a very lengthy dissusion of course with all the common arguments. 
We were and are as negative as all others to the botgeneration of 
articles from other language versions as was done around 2008. During 
our discussion we evolved the concept quite a bit (special templates, 
categories, messages on talk page etc). Also for us the precedence and 
experience  from nl:wp was important


We also had two  successful runs in 2012, not only birds as was 
mentioned, but also of 30 000 articles for French communes (also with 
data taken from primary sources, Commons and iw links to other language 
versions)


Anders



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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [FC-discuss] Very Sad News

[aude]

sad. :(

-- Forwarded message --
From: Alex Leavitt 
Date: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM
Subject: [FC-discuss] Very Sad News
To: Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in
particular 


http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html

Sent from phone. - Alex Leavitt

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp

[Andrew Gray]

On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten  wrote:
>
> He has since then extended the scope to include all living species, both
> animals and plants, which means another 1-1,5 million articles. Running
> at full permissible bot speed, the bot generates around 10,000 articles
> per day, but at a more realistic speed, the full project will take the
> rest of 2013 to complete.

Wow!

Very interested to see you got community support for this - normally
it's sharply the other way around.

-- 
- Andrew Gray
  andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk

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