Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the patented concept without the consent of... - Is that a copyvio? * See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll 2013/2/8, Fae faewik+comm...@gmail.com: On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
I don't see this as an actual patent troll: the people in question actually use the technology that they patented for self-guided walking tours: the tourist calls the number related to the specific site, and hears information about it. I think they were just a bit overoptimistic about what was patentable, and/or how broad the coverage given by their their patent was. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: ...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the patented concept without the consent of... - Is that a copyvio? * See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll 2013/2/8, Fae faewik+comm...@gmail.com: On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only paid toolserver admins accepted by WMF?
Forwarding this from the toolserver list: -- Forwarded message -- From: Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de Date: 8 February 2013 11:57 Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] Adding more roots To: toolserve...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi! After consultation with WMF, I would like to correct what I wrote the other day about toolserver admins. According to Erik Möller, WMF needs all toolserver admins to * be identified with their real name; * have been individually vetted by WMF operations; * have signed a non-disclosure-agreement with the chapter. Whether someone is actually paid by a chapter is not crucial. Sorry for the confusion! Cheers, Silke On 5 February 2013 19:25, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: Hi, WMDE's Silke wrote at http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.toolserver/5674 regarding the promotion of additional toolserver roots: | DaB is right: WMF as the database owner accepts only paid roots. | [...] Is that statement correct, and what is WMF's rationale for it? Tim ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Nicole Ebber Internationales Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK and Wikimedia Foundation announce the release of the Compass Partnership report
Hello everyone, Wikimedia UK and the Wikimedia Foundation yesterday released the Compass Partnership report regarding the governance of Wikimedia UK. You can find the report herehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_UK_gov_review_rpt_v5.pdf and there is a complementary joint statement from Wikimedia UK and the Wikimedia Foundationhttp://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/02/wikimedia-uk-and-wikimedia-foundation-publish-compass-partnership-report/ and a chronology of eventshttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Descriptive_chronology_v6.pdf. There is a page reserved for discussion of the review on Meta herehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK/Governance_Review_discussion and a page outlining some questions and answers regarding the review herehttp://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/02/questions-and-answers-related-to-the-governance-review/ . The best place to begin is with this blog post which contains full detailshttp://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/02/wikimedia-uk-and-wikimedia-foundation-announce-publication-of-compass-partnership-report/ . Do let me know if there are any questions or comments. Thanks and regards, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only paid toolserver admins accepted by WMF?
Nicole Ebber, 08/02/2013 12:12: Forwarding this from the toolserver list: Thank you. -- Forwarded message -- From: Silke Meyer After consultation with WMF, I would like to correct what I wrote the other day about toolserver admins. According to Erik Möller, WMF needs all toolserver admins to * be identified with their real name; * have been individually vetted by WMF operations; * have signed a non-disclosure-agreement with the chapter. Whether someone is actually paid by a chapter is not crucial. Sorry for the confusion! And thanks Erik for this clarification, it's very good news in my opinion (although it probably won't help that much in the near term). Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Andy - have you thought about putting a project page on Wikipedia and not just hosting it on your blog ? It might bring more traffic. I saw your Tweet about doing this, I just..well..haven't sat down and done it yet. And I hate my recorded voice. O_o -Sarah On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedia* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way. it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open license. -Sarah On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Andy Mabbett, 08/02/2013 14:57: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/**open-licensed-format-** recordings-voices-wikipedia-**wikimedia-commons/http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Voice_intro_**projecthttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? I think we really need such a tool, for instance it's a shame that Wiktionary doesn't have pronounciation recordings on most of its entries. Of course it's better if the speaker is authoritative (like the subject in person for a biography or a professional for Wiktionary), but tools would help everyone. Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedia* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way. it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open license. -Sarah Sounds like a job for the Commons mobile apps! If sound recording is not on the roadmap, it should be. Yuvi, Brion, are you guys reading this thread? (I'll ping them.) -Sage ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:57:41 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? This sounds interesting, but what is the purpose? I happen to be a subject of a Wikipedia article, is the idea that anybody would get a chance to hear what accent do I have? I am not sure I would like this. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On 8 February 2013 15:06, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way. it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open license. People could use AudioBoo, for example, if it had a Flickr-like way for uploaders to open-license a recoding. I'ive reached out to them suggesting that, with no luck yet. I'm also looking at http://croak.it/. Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On 8 February 2013 15:27, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: This sounds interesting, but what is the purpose? I happen to be a subject of a Wikipedia article, is the idea that anybody would get a chance to hear what accent do I have? I am not sure I would like this. The reasons are explained in the blog post to which I linked If you don't want to do it, then of course, don't. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On 8 February 2013 14:57, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Andy - have you thought about putting a project page on Wikipedia and not just hosting it on your blog ? Yes; I have a rewrite for that purpose, on my to-do list. I saw your Tweet about doing this, I just..well..haven't sat down and done it yet. And I hate my recorded voice. O_o Who doesn't ;-) I'm sure your recording will be worth waiting for. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk Yes; I agve taht on my to-do list. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Hoi, There are several tools that allow you to record pronunciations. I have done many many in the past and, I am not the only on Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2013 16:06, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way. it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open license. -Sarah On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Mabbett, 08/02/2013 14:57: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/**open-licensed-format-** recordings-voices-wikipedia-**wikimedia-commons/ http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Voice_intro_**project http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? I think we really need such a tool, for instance it's a shame that Wiktionary doesn't have pronounciation recordings on most of its entries. Of course it's better if the speaker is authoritative (like the subject in person for a biography or a professional for Wiktionary), but tools would help everyone. Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedia* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Okay. So I looked at this a couple of times, and couldn't come up with a good idea for notable people to want to deliberately record and upload with an open license a recording of their own voice - knowing that it *will* be abused and misused and mashed. (There's little question that this will happen. Just because Wikimedians are pretty decent sorts doesn't mean the rest of the world is.) Now, I have no objection whatsoever to supporting article subjects who *wish* to do this, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea to actively try to persuade them. I'm not convinced that recordings of a person's voice is actually information about the person, either, except in the way that their fingerprints are. Risker/Anne ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
On 8 February 2013 17:09, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Okay. So I looked at this a couple of times, and couldn't come up with a good idea for notable people to want to deliberately record and upload with an open license a recording of their own voice - knowing that it *will* be abused and misused and mashed. (There's little question that this will happen. Just because Wikimedians are pretty decent sorts doesn't mean the rest of the world is.) Now, I have no objection whatsoever to supporting article subjects who *wish* to do this, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea to actively try to persuade them. I'm not convinced that recordings of a person's voice is actually information about the person, either, except in the way that their fingerprints are. Risker/Anne I'm afraid, rather sadly, I have to agree. At a minimum, I would recommend that those donating their audio or video are cautioned very clearly about what free re-use might mean, and that the licence is certain to be irrevocable, even if we do later make a community decision to delete a file from Commons (which is highly unlikely if they are notable and the release was unambiguous). It's a nice idea, but my frank advice to a notable person would be to release on a CC-BY-SA-ND licence which means that re-use is far more likely to stay respectful and even though this means that Commons could not host, articles on Wikipedias could still provide a link to a stable host site that did accept the ND restriction. This is the same advice I have provided for sensitive modern cultural content, such as photographs of the general public at festivals where there is no specific release from the models, or tribal rituals which may contain children or partial nudity. Sometimes this means turning away super content, but I would much rather do that than have upset partners who may suffer reputational damage as a result. Obviously if you are notable and you don't care because your voice and image is everywhere already (and perhaps massively misused or used in parody), then perhaps the caution will not put you off that much anyway, as it would be water off a duck's back. Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
On 8 February 2013 17:53, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? Hi James, See discussions at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#QR_codes (and the later thread on the same page), lots of information and discussion there, and the Water Cooler will stay up to date as events progress. I welcome further questions that have not already been raised to be added there, I find it a handy place to reference. As it happens, the UK Board is reviewing the negotiation tomorrow and there may be an announcement to make then. Thanks, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) f...@wikimedia.org.uk Wikimedia UK Trustee http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Even if I'm really in favor of sound content in articles, I'm not sure that a license like the CC by SA is good for that. Do the subject are really aware of what it means?, that their voice could be used without their consent afterwards? It could be a good opportunity to open a constructive discussion about new license with NC and ND option? Charles Le 8 févr. 2013 à 14:57, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk a écrit : I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
Am 08.02.2013 18:53, schrieb James Heilman: QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. It is. You need to fiddle through it and find the right QR library which is not included, though. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? I managed to set up my own instance and got it working. So we have a stand-by system. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Loading remote resources on Wikimedia wikis
Hi. As I understand it, loading remote resources on Wikimedia wikis (such as YouTube videos or Google Analytics JavaScript) is not allowed. The basic principle is that any remote resources must be loaded from domains that also adhere to Wikimedia's privacy policy (such as toolserver.org) or be opt-in (such as the recent fundraising videos that were on YouTube, but carried an explicit warning). Is this correct? And if so, is this documented anywhere? I looked at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy, but this didn't seem to be explicitly mentioned there. Perhaps there's a page on Meta-Wiki somewhere? Does anyone know? MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Gerard, Did not we record something sounding like merry christmas and happy new year several years ago ? Was it uploaded ? I could not find it ;) Flo On 2/8/13 5:24 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, There are several tools that allow you to record pronunciations. I have done many many in the past and, I am not the only on Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2013 16:06, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way. it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open license. -Sarah On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Mabbett, 08/02/2013 14:57: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/**open-licensed-format-** recordings-voices-wikipedia-**wikimedia-commons/ http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their speaking voice, for use on those articles. An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place] and I have been [job or position] since [year]. So far, the participants: http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Voice_intro_**project http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more. Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers of other languages? I think we really need such a tool, for instance it's a shame that Wiktionary doesn't have pronounciation recordings on most of its entries. Of course it's better if the speaker is authoritative (like the subject in person for a biography or a professional for Wiktionary), but tools would help everyone. Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedia* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Loading remote resources on Wikimedia wikis
MZ - The last time this came up was in the context of the Jobvite listings, and at the time I believe you directed people to the privacy policy. I don't have the exact quote handy, but I think you said something like the privacy policy of the site or service collecting information has to be consistent with the privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation on the collection, retention and use of data. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: *BTW I'd like to join this Wikipedia club pune of yours along with 3 other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to join and speak on its behalf please. * You are welcome to join it. and relax - below 18, above 18 is last thing we care. Special thanks for bringing in diversity to Club. Call us older generation, but we prefer facebook for communication : https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaClubPune/ Stay connected via group to get updates about club. :-) More than joining, if you 'like' to like things - then you can join 3767 Club followers - https://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune Thank you. I'd now like to speak on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune. We would officially like to change our language preference to Portuguese, and affirm that Pune is the second bestest place in India, after Delhi. Also We like Cheese! Thank you that is all. Anyway, please look forward to having more brazilian members of your club than pune ones. Some of those would be underage boys and girls, but you are from an older generation of course. :P BTW in case you haven't realized, that was not to ask for membership but point out how important it is to have a resident as a member unless they start speaking for a country or a city they know nothing about. The 18 is the age requirement usually set by the law, and when you decide to officially register your organization as a society, I'll point you to the age requirement law or why parental supervision becomes necessary in some cases. Regards Theo Apparently, Wikipedia Pune Club member ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
Hi, Since Club Pune is now open to everyone - and especially Brazilians - I would like to join too, since Theo tells me that Pune is the second best city in India. I am a big fan of the Taj Mahal, so for me is the 3rd best (behind Agra). I never went there, I cant place it on a map, but now its officially the third bestest place in india. I am in Club Pune, and brazilians is something they are looking for so much I will foward this to some of our list, since that is ok now. Eu estou tão feliz que agora posso finalmente falar em Português aqui! jejeje :) _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 8 February 2013 19:25, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: *BTW I'd like to join this Wikipedia club pune of yours along with 3 other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to join and speak on its behalf please. * You are welcome to join it. and relax - below 18, above 18 is last thing we care. Special thanks for bringing in diversity to Club. Call us older generation, but we prefer facebook for communication : https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaClubPune/ Stay connected via group to get updates about club. :-) More than joining, if you 'like' to like things - then you can join 3767 Club followers - https://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune Thank you. I'd now like to speak on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune. We would officially like to change our language preference to Portuguese, and affirm that Pune is the second bestest place in India, after Delhi. Also We like Cheese! Thank you that is all. Anyway, please look forward to having more brazilian members of your club than pune ones. Some of those would be underage boys and girls, but you are from an older generation of course. :P BTW in case you haven't realized, that was not to ask for membership but point out how important it is to have a resident as a member unless they start speaking for a country or a city they know nothing about. The 18 is the age requirement usually set by the law, and when you decide to officially register your organization as a society, I'll point you to the age requirement law or why parental supervision becomes necessary in some cases. Regards Theo Apparently, Wikipedia Pune Club member ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
D'oh. Wrong list. Apologies. -Theo On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: *BTW I'd like to join this Wikipedia club pune of yours along with 3 other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to join and speak on its behalf please. * You are welcome to join it. and relax - below 18, above 18 is last thing we care. Special thanks for bringing in diversity to Club. Call us older generation, but we prefer facebook for communication : https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaClubPune/ Stay connected via group to get updates about club. :-) More than joining, if you 'like' to like things - then you can join 3767 Club followers - https://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune Thank you. I'd now like to speak on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune. We would officially like to change our language preference to Portuguese, and affirm that Pune is the second bestest place in India, after Delhi. Also We like Cheese! Thank you that is all. Anyway, please look forward to having more brazilian members of your club than pune ones. Some of those would be underage boys and girls, but you are from an older generation of course. :P BTW in case you haven't realized, that was not to ask for membership but point out how important it is to have a resident as a member unless they start speaking for a country or a city they know nothing about. The 18 is the age requirement usually set by the law, and when you decide to officially register your organization as a society, I'll point you to the age requirement law or why parental supervision becomes necessary in some cases. Regards Theo Apparently, Wikipedia Pune Club member ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project
Andy Mabett wrote: People could use AudioBoo, for example, if it had a Flickr-like way for uploaders to open-license a recoding. I'ive reached out to them suggesting that, with no luck yet. The open source solution for voice recording with the largest cross-browser and cross-platform support is WAMI recorder: http://code.google.com/p/wami-recorder/ It uses Flash because of the strictly utilitarian fact that doing so covers the largest number of clients with microphones. But it records to .wav files which are easily converted to Ogg Vorbis (e.g. with oggenc) for upload to Commons etc. The free GNU Gnash player has been able to record audio via Flash applets on many platforms since 2009, by the way: http://wiki.gnashdev.org/MicrophoneGST ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Loading remote resources on Wikimedia wikis
What about to embed Youtube in Privacy mode? http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=171780expand=PrivacyEnhancedMode#privacy On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. As I understand it, loading remote resources on Wikimedia wikis (such as YouTube videos or Google Analytics JavaScript) is not allowed. The basic principle is that any remote resources must be loaded from domains that also adhere to Wikimedia's privacy policy (such as toolserver.org) or be opt-in (such as the recent fundraising videos that were on YouTube, but carried an explicit warning). Is this correct? And if so, is this documented anywhere? I looked at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy, but this didn't seem to be explicitly mentioned there. Perhaps there's a page on Meta-Wiki somewhere? Does anyone know? MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
