[Wikimedia-l] License issue on GPL and CC-by-sa mix up
Hello, One of my favorite wikimedia project is the wiktionary, I probably use it everyday and I like to contribute on the french chapter here and there. As I'm learning esperanto, I wanted to improve the french wiktionary on this topic. My first thought was to begin by gathering a list of vocabulary, make a todo page with links and go on. But I found that there is already a free/libre dictionary out there : Reta Vortaro[1]. Morever this dictionary provide definition in several languages, so I thought instead of making a word by word contribution only for the french chapter, I could add a whole esperanto dictionary to several chapters in once. It sounds great doesn't it ? Unfortunately, this dictionary is under GPL which is a well known free license (but a strange choice for a non-software project). So I would like to know, can I mix up a GPL content with a CC-by-sa page (in cases where such a page already exist), and more generaly can I add GPL content into the wiktionary. If no, could we approach their community and ask them for a relicensing under CC-by-sa, so we could add their great work into our wiktionaries. I also send this message to email I found to contact them[2]. Kind regards, mathieu [1] http://purl.org/NET/voko/revo/ [2] http://reta-vortaro.de/revo/dok/revolist.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] License issue on GPL and CC-by-sa mix up
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: One of my favorite wikimedia project is the wiktionary, I probably use it everyday and I like to contribute on the french chapter here and there. As I'm learning esperanto, I wanted to improve the french wiktionary on this topic. My first thought was to begin by gathering a list of vocabulary, make a todo page with links and go on. But I found that there is already a free/libre dictionary out there : Reta Vortaro[1]. Morever this dictionary provide definition in several languages, so I thought instead of making a word by word contribution only for the french chapter, I could add a whole esperanto dictionary to several chapters in once. It sounds great doesn't it ? Unfortunately, this dictionary is under GPL which is a well known free license (but a strange choice for a non-software project). So I would like to know, can I mix up a GPL content with a CC-by-sa page (in cases where such a page already exist), and more generaly can I add GPL content into the wiktionary. No. What you stumbled upon is a well-known (at least to me) problem of share-alike licences: The only thing they are two-way compatible with is themselves. Even if one would have a different license with exactly the same meaning, it would not be possible to move texts from that license to CC-BY-SA (or GPL or whatever) or vice versa. -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Info: Election for WCA Chairperson
Hi, I have started a draft of the process for the WCA election for a Chairperson at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2012_Chairperson. This is in line with the discussion at the London meeting last weekend. The election for a Chairperson is limited to votes by Council members (as defined at the time of opening the vote) and the Chairperson needs to be a member of the Council. I invite Council members to not only consider if they have some skill and experience to bring to the role of Chair, but also to take an selfless viewpoint, and consider if there are individuals with skills elsewhere in their Chapter that might mean that now would be a good time to quickly swap their position with someone else in their Chapter, so that the WCA benefits overall. I strongly recommend that this is a contested election, particularly with representatives from smaller Chapters running for Chair. A key reason that I planned last year for a re-election for Chair to happen before the Milan conference, was that I was uncomfortable that my appointment without contest. In my view, this was a weak demonstration of our democratic process. If anyone has good tips for improving the process then please chip in, preferably on the meta talk page. My objective is to keep this as simple as possible to understand, and as non-bureaucratic as possible, so please try to make any suggestions with that in mind. :-) I propose we accept self nomination statements in languages other than English, and allow others to help with good translations. I would expect to be opening for nominations on Monday 25 February 2013, unless there are significant objections (such as prospective candidates being unavailable for this coming week and needing an extension to this schedule). Cheers, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Chapters Association Council Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] In France, sharing copyleft works without paying a fee could become illegal
This mail follow the reading of an article titled Hadopi : la mission
Lescure repoussée à avril[1].
Pierre Lescure, former CEO of Canal+ (a french private television
group), was asked by the French governement to work on the future of the
HADOPI, the french kitchen sink aimed at punishing people who share
non-free/libre digital works through the internet.
And she come with a proposition which would deeply impact us : fordid
free/libre content sharing without charging fee. According to her the
free sharing risk to harm the developpement of the legal offer[2]. I
suppose that she purposely use this vocabulary so our movement seems to
act illegaly.
The article finish with statements that work to lobying at the European
level is also in progress.
Who will pretend we don't need to have an active lobying task force to
defend and promote free/libre culture after that? We have enemies: they
hate our willigness to make culture freely accessible to all without
them having means to financialy parasitize the process, and they will do
everything they can to destroy our movement.
You can sign up a petition here :
http://www.avaaz.org/fr/petition/Garder_les_Creative_Commons_libres_et_gratuites/?tIybZab
kind regards,
mathieu
[1] {{fr}}
http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/28186/hadopi-la-mission-lescure-repoussee-a-avril.aspx
[2] la « libre circulation risquerait de freiner le développement de
l’offre légale »
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering
Christophe Henner, 20/02/2013 12:07: Agreed, that was my hidden message. But for such endeavour to succeed paid time and paid time in Brussels will be needed :) We also have some additional experiences to learn from. I liked this: https://digitalegesellschaft.de/2012/06/how-to-build-an-anti-acta-campaign/ Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] In France, sharing copyleft works without paying a fee could become illegal
Hi Mathieu,
I think we need to wait to read the final, original text of the Lescure
proposals before jumping to conclusions. If you go to the original
Libération article [1] that reported on the Lescure mission, you'll find
that the context [2] in which the CC is mentioned does not make any sense.
Why only non-commercial licenses are singled out? And why would it affect
VOD (video on demand) in particular, or even at all?
I think the intent of the report was to say that non-commercial sharing,
for example by torrents instead of selling pirated DVDs, should be treated
as commercial because it still affects legal offers like VOD. The bit about
CC licenses seems irrelevant to me and probably constitutes a gross
misunderstanding of what CC is and of copyright in general.
I'd suggest contacting the Libération journalist who wrote the article and
asking them if the mention of CC was spelled out in the Lescure proposals.
Because it might be the journalist's own conjecture. In fact, journalists
misunderstanding copyright is a very common occurrence. It's better to make
sure these reports are 100% accurate before we get all riled up.
Regards,
--
Orionist
[1]
http://www.liberation.fr/medias/2013/02/20/lescure-les-positions-du-missionnaire_883309
[2] *En parallèle, pas de dépénalisation des échanges non marchands au
programme, mais la volonté de «valoriser» les licences libres du type
Creative Commons. La mission Lescure estime que laisser les œuvres circuler
librement (ce qu’elles font déjà…) risquerait de freiner le développement
de l’offre légale, en particulier la VOD.*
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
This mail follow the reading of an article titled Hadopi : la mission
Lescure repoussée à avril[1].
Pierre Lescure, former CEO of Canal+ (a french private television
group), was asked by the French governement to work on the future of the
HADOPI, the french kitchen sink aimed at punishing people who share
non-free/libre digital works through the internet.
And she come with a proposition which would deeply impact us : fordid
free/libre content sharing without charging fee. According to her the
free sharing risk to harm the developpement of the legal offer[2]. I
suppose that she purposely use this vocabulary so our movement seems to
act illegaly.
The article finish with statements that work to lobying at the European
level is also in progress.
Who will pretend we don't need to have an active lobying task force to
defend and promote free/libre culture after that? We have enemies: they
hate our willigness to make culture freely accessible to all without
them having means to financialy parasitize the process, and they will do
everything they can to destroy our movement.
You can sign up a petition here :
http://www.avaaz.org/fr/petition/Garder_les_Creative_Commons_libres_et_gratuites/?tIybZab
kind regards,
mathieu
[1] {{fr}}
http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/28186/hadopi-la-mission-lescure-repoussee-a-avril.aspx
[2] la « libre circulation risquerait de freiner le développement de
l’offre légale »
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] License issue on GPL and CC-by-sa mix up
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Unfortunately, this dictionary is under GPL which is a well known free license (but a strange choice for a non-software project). So I would like to know, can I mix up a GPL content with a CC-by-sa page (in cases where such a page already exist), and more generaly can I add GPL content into the wiktionary. No. If no, could we approach their community and ask them for a relicensing under CC-by-sa, so we could add their great work into our wiktionaries. I also send this message to email I found to contact them[2]. Sure, that would be great. On 23/02/13 11:51, Andre Engels wrote: No. What you stumbled upon is a well-known (at least to me) problem of share-alike licences: The only thing they are two-way compatible with is themselves. Even if one would have a different license with exactly the same meaning, it would not be possible to move texts from that license to CC-BY-SA (or GPL or whatever) or vice versa. There are a few cases where sharealike licenses include provisions for compatible licenses. Sadly, the license owners don't seem too interested in advacing in that front. See for instance the list at http://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses ...which is empty. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] License issue on GPL and CC-by-sa mix up
On 23 February 2013 20:29, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few cases where sharealike licenses include provisions for compatible licenses. Sadly, the license owners don't seem too interested in advacing in that front. Not completely, to be fair - e.g. GFDL 1.3 including a port-to-CC-by-sa option *just for us* - but it does take considerable work and negotiation. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikizine] This Week: A Brief Summary
After years of publication, Wikizine is changing once again. Brief news is always available at Wikizine.org Suggestions are welcome; please send them to monom...@gmail.com Want to write for Wikizine? Fill out the form at http://wikizine.org/write Otherwise, send tips to http://wikizine.org/submit Top stories this week: WMF executive director Sue Gardner interviewed by The Telegraph in Sydney, Australia. Read it at http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/data-plans-unnerving-wikipedia-boss/story-e6freuz0-1226576326861 Highlights from January 2013, including individual grants, a data center migration, and the launch of Wikivoyage, was published at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/17/wikimedia-highlights-january-2013/ The Wikimedia Foundation has called their lawsuit against Internet Brands a 'victory for Wikivoyage and free knowledge over the ability to fork Wikitravel. *The Signpost *has in-depth coverage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-02-18/News_and_notes Wikimedia is lookinghttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-February/123987.htmlfor a new member of the Board of Trustees to fill the appointed seat vacated by Matt Halprin. The search is being conducted by an outside agency. Smartphone photographers: join the WikiCommons mobile uploads testing week, starting on Feb 25 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_QA/Commons_uploads The 2012 Picture of the Year was announced after 3990 votes in Round 2. View all the results at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results Wikimedian Quote “Wikipedia’s world is a beautiful world. You can see all cultures of the world through the window of a language that you know.” - Doaa Seifhttp://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Doaasaifeldine of Egypt Wikizine.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2012 Picture of the Year
Just want to congratulate and thanks everyone who been part of the committee this year. Last year I criticized the long process and the fact that we published the winners only in the middle of the year. This year the announcement came kind of the beginning of the year. So good job! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: On behalf of the 2012 Picture of the Year committee, I'm proud to announce the seventh Picture of the Year. About 4,000 Wikimedia editors helped select this marvelous image, shattering previous turnout records. You can view the top 12 results right now on Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results . Stay tuned for a blog post on the Wikimedia blog and an upcoming 2014 calendar from the top 12 images. The contest is a fun and enjoyable event that not only celebrates our excellent photographers and illustrators, but everyone who contributes to Wikimedia. You are encouraged to donate your own work to the Wikimedia Commons as our library of freely licensed media files grows past 16 million files. Thank you for your participation! User:Mono POTY 2012 Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2012 Picture of the Year
Thank you to the commitee, the voters and all the editors who have uploaded a picture in 2012 :-) I want also to congratulate all the folks in Wikimedia France who have helped to produce the winning picture, with the project Phoebus [1] :-) Guillaume [1] : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Projet_Phoebus 2013/2/24 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il Just want to congratulate and thanks everyone who been part of the committee this year. Last year I criticized the long process and the fact that we published the winners only in the middle of the year. This year the announcement came kind of the beginning of the year. So good job! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: On behalf of the 2012 Picture of the Year committee, I'm proud to announce the seventh Picture of the Year. About 4,000 Wikimedia editors helped select this marvelous image, shattering previous turnout records. You can view the top 12 results right now on Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results . Stay tuned for a blog post on the Wikimedia blog and an upcoming 2014 calendar from the top 12 images. The contest is a fun and enjoyable event that not only celebrates our excellent photographers and illustrators, but everyone who contributes to Wikimedia. You are encouraged to donate your own work to the Wikimedia Commons as our library of freely licensed media files grows past 16 million files. Thank you for your participation! User:Mono POTY 2012 Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Improving the knowledge about the Movement
Hello, In accordance with some suggestions from the London conference, I have started a section on the WCA/Reseach page on Meta Wiki. The Wikimedia Movement needs more information about itself, and I would very much appreciate if you could take a look at the page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Research Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
