Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: [WCA][Governance] Training for chapter and thematic org. board members

2013-04-21 Thread Stefan Fussan
Very good idea. You can put me on your trainee list

Cheers,

Stefan aka Fussi


2013/4/21 Bence Damokos 

> Sounds like a great idea.
>
> Best regards,
> Bence
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2013, Fae  wrote:
> > The majority of chapter boards (and the proposed thematic
> > organizations) do not routinely have an induction process with
> > training in expected reporting requirements, liability as directors,
> > the role of oversight and how to maintain a competent and professional
> > board function, etc.
> >
> > At the Milan conference, I shall be proposing that the WCA takes a
> > lead in arranging a shared training course and workshop with the aim
> > of this being a regular planned activity, so that chapters and other
> > groups agree basic expectations for the behaviours and competencies of
> > board members, and benefit from the efficiencies of a shared training
> > event, hopefully hosted by one of the chapters with handy facilities
> > to support it.
> >
> > I have chatted about this proposition during coffee breaks with 4
> > different 'large' chapters, and the feedback so far is that this would
> > be an easy way of improving the quality of our governance and of
> > definite direct benefit to many of our organizations.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fae
> > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-21 Thread Nasir Khan
Hi,
Is it possible to include bn (Bengali Wikipeda) in the list ? i want to
start the test earlier :)

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On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Nicole Ebber wrote:

> Hey,
>
> The VisualEditor is going to be deployed in an opt-in version to several
> Wikipedias on Thursday next week.
>
> I am planning to hold a BarCamp session this afternoon in the Milan to
> discuss how chapters can support or facilitate a community communication
> and feedback process in this regards.
>
> So anyone interested in this topic is welcome to join!
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole Ebber
> International Affairs
>
> http://wikimedia.de
>
> All,
>
> TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an
> opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this
> and help get the software translated.
>
> Next week (on 25 April) we are going to deploy the alpha opt-in version of
> the VisualEditor to some non-English Wikipedias in the same way that it
> has been on the English Wikipedia since December 2012.
>
> This will let users get familiar with the VisualEditor, give us feedback
> on what works and what is broken, and help us prioritise further work
> ahead of the planned deployment as a 'default' editor for all users which
> we intend to do in a few months' time.
>
> Due to a number of issues we have been unable to release VisualEditor to
> non-English wikis until now, and we would very much like to get some great
> feedback from as many wikis as possible - especially for extended Unicode
> and RTL languages, but also other languages. Does the VisualEditor work in
> your language? Does it gel with your wiki's workflow?
>
> The initial languages we want to target are the "top 10" Wikipedias by way
> of scale - de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja - plus selected others to
> help us discover issues we anticipate: ar, he, hi, ko, zh. These will let
> us test most of the locales we are concerned about. If this goes well, we
> hope to deploy the opt-in alpha to all Wikipedias.
>
> Please tell your wiki colleagues that this is coming, especially if your
> wiki is in this list! Additionally, you can see how fully-translated the
> software is into your language in the stats at TranslateWiki.Net[0] -
> please encourage wiki colleagues to help translate the messages ahead of
> the deployment!
>
> As a note, we have just updated the VisualEditor integration so that the
> "Edit" tab goes to VisualEditor, and there is an "Edit source" tab to go
> to the wikitext editor.
>
> This change (which affects the English Wikipedia opt-in deployment and
> MediaWiki.org as well as the new deployments mentioned above) moves the
> way that VisualEditor integrates with the wiki's workflow to be closer to
> how it will appear when it is the 'default' editor. It is still easy to
> use the wikitext editor if that is what you want to do - the "Edit source"
> tab (at least for now) will be "above the fold" and not in the drop-down
> menu on Vector.
>
> Happy to answer any questions you might have!
>
> Yours,
> --
> James D. Forrester
> Product Manager, VisualEditor
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Ditto: A warm thanks to WMIT for taking up the call, and to everyone who
took part in the conference. I enjoyed it tremendously and found both
formal and informal parts facilitated well.  I regret that I had to fly
back a day early!

For those staying on past tonight: as bars go, I recommend the Ostello
Bello, by Missori station, where a few of us stayed. It is not only an
excellent hostel, it runs a wonderfully energetic and inexpensive bar with
2 floors of seating, and table games & guitars to  play.  (Packed every
night I was there :)

Sj,
Just landing in Newark
On Apr 21, 2013 11:51 AM, "Chris Keating" 
wrote:

> (off-topic)
>
> >
> > And how come an "English pub" in Italia?! At least the grapa was good. ;)
>
>
> As I mentioned to a few people at the time, the beer was mainly German,
> Czech and Irish, and the spirits mainly Scottish, American, Italian and
> Russian,  and the food was mainly nachos.
>
> Might not sound very English but that's exactly like every pub in London.
> :-)
>
> I will now stop spamming the list and get on my flight.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: [WCA][Governance] Training for chapter and thematic org. board members

2013-04-21 Thread Bence Damokos
Sounds like a great idea.

Best regards,
Bence

On Sunday, April 21, 2013, Fae  wrote:
> The majority of chapter boards (and the proposed thematic
> organizations) do not routinely have an induction process with
> training in expected reporting requirements, liability as directors,
> the role of oversight and how to maintain a competent and professional
> board function, etc.
>
> At the Milan conference, I shall be proposing that the WCA takes a
> lead in arranging a shared training course and workshop with the aim
> of this being a regular planned activity, so that chapters and other
> groups agree basic expectations for the behaviours and competencies of
> board members, and benefit from the efficiencies of a shared training
> event, hopefully hosted by one of the chapters with handy facilities
> to support it.
>
> I have chatted about this proposition during coffee breaks with 4
> different 'large' chapters, and the feedback so far is that this would
> be an easy way of improving the quality of our governance and of
> definite direct benefit to many of our organizations.
>
> Cheers,
> Fae
> --
> fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm
> Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae
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[Wikimedia-l] [Milan] Night out for those who don't leave today :)

2013-04-21 Thread Michał Buczyński
Hello all conference people,

as not all people leave today, Polish Wikimedians with some friends meet 
together for some food/drink and everyone is wholeheartly welcomed.

We are meeting at 8:00 p.m. next to Porta Genova metro station (green line) on 
the piazza stazione di Porta Genova.

Then we are going to Naviglio Grande as we heard that there is a big number of 
good restaurants etc.

See you there!
We will be in this area for some time :) so you can catch us.
My phone is +48 603 800 876

Best Regards,
Michał aegis maelstrom Buczyński
WMPL

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Keating
(off-topic)

>
> And how come an "English pub" in Italia?! At least the grapa was good. ;)


As I mentioned to a few people at the time, the beer was mainly German,
Czech and Irish, and the spirits mainly Scottish, American, Italian and
Russian,  and the food was mainly nachos.

Might not sound very English but that's exactly like every pub in London.
:-)

I will now stop spamming the list and get on my flight.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
[off-topic]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Chris Keating
 wrote:

> Thanks also to the Foundation board for holding a boring meeting with no
> surprises.

Haha.

There was a surprise for me. Jimbo thinks in South America the most
spoken language is Spanish. Although looking now different places at
Wikipedia articles this seems a little controversial and we need to
fix some articles to to it be consistent. At this moment I left to
read my book.

And how come an "English pub" in Italia?! At least the grapa was good. ;)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread derfussi
A absolutely agree... Sitting in the train from Berlin to Cottbus now. Thanks 
to evrybody especially to the WMIT Team for doing a great Job.


See you all...


Stefan aka Fussi



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Since we don't thank each other enough in this movement.

I'd like to add my thanks, to Wikimedia Italia for the great job they did
organising their first Wikimedia conference, to everyone who spoke or
presented, to the facilitators (whose facilitation extended to trying to
find a bar with space to seat  20 Wikimedians in the pouring rain last
night*), and to everyone who took part. It was lovely to meet so many of
you.

Thanks also to the Foundation board for holding a boring meeting with no
surprises.

Chris
Wikimedia UK

* success was limited - we ended up in something called an "English pub"
but there was no dartboard and the beer was far too cold ;)






On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Fae  wrote:

> I would like to give a personal thankyou to WMIT for successfully
> taking on the scary challenge of hosting the Wikimedia Conference.
>
> We can all see the team has put in a huge amount of effort and
> creativity into the conference. I loved visiting Milan for the first
> time, and being hosted in such a lovely venue and hotel (I can
> recommend eating out in Milan, all the food I have had here has been
> excellent). I look forward to being invited again :-D
>
> I'm in the feedback session right now, and I think there are excellent
> learning points to make to make life easier for our next host.
>
> Grazie mille!
> Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Keating
Since we don't thank each other enough in this movement.

I'd like to add my thanks, to Wikimedia Italia for the great job they did
organising their first Wikimedia conference, to everyone who spoke or
presented, to the facilitators (whose facilitation extended to trying to
find a bar with space to seat  20 Wikimedians in the pouring rain last
night*), and to everyone who took part. It was lovely to meet so many of
you.

Thanks also to the Foundation board for holding a boring meeting with no
surprises.

Chris
Wikimedia UK

* success was limited - we ended up in something called an "English pub"
but there was no dartboard and the beer was far too cold ;)






On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Fae  wrote:

> I would like to give a personal thankyou to WMIT for successfully
> taking on the scary challenge of hosting the Wikimedia Conference.
>
> We can all see the team has put in a huge amount of effort and
> creativity into the conference. I loved visiting Milan for the first
> time, and being hosted in such a lovely venue and hotel (I can
> recommend eating out in Milan, all the food I have had here has been
> excellent). I look forward to being invited again :-D
>
> I'm in the feedback session right now, and I think there are excellent
> learning points to make to make life easier for our next host.
>
> Grazie mille!
> Fae
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Tante tante grazie, Wikimedia Italia!

After 4 Wikimanias, this was my first Wikimedia Conference. A pity my
Brazilian friends still didn't realise the importance of this event.

So greate to see so many wonderful people to make things better and
congratulations for your work!

Arrivederci!

Tom

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Fae  wrote:
> I would like to give a personal thankyou to WMIT for successfully
> taking on the scary challenge of hosting the Wikimedia Conference.
>
> We can all see the team has put in a huge amount of effort and
> creativity into the conference. I loved visiting Milan for the first
> time, and being hosted in such a lovely venue and hotel (I can
> recommend eating out in Milan, all the food I have had here has been
> excellent). I look forward to being invited again :-D
>
> I'm in the feedback session right now, and I think there are excellent
> learning points to make to make life easier for our next host.
>
> Grazie mille!
> Fae
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

2013-04-21 Thread Fae
I would like to give a personal thankyou to WMIT for successfully
taking on the scary challenge of hosting the Wikimedia Conference.

We can all see the team has put in a huge amount of effort and
creativity into the conference. I loved visiting Milan for the first
time, and being hosted in such a lovely venue and hotel (I can
recommend eating out in Milan, all the food I have had here has been
excellent). I look forward to being invited again :-D

I'm in the feedback session right now, and I think there are excellent
learning points to make to make life easier for our next host.

Grazie mille!
Fae
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-21 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hey,

The VisualEditor is going to be deployed in an opt-in version to several
Wikipedias on Thursday next week.

I am planning to hold a BarCamp session this afternoon in the Milan to
discuss how chapters can support or facilitate a community communication
and feedback process in this regards.

So anyone interested in this topic is welcome to join!

Thanks,
Nicole Ebber
International Affairs

http://wikimedia.de

All,

TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an
opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this
and help get the software translated.

Next week (on 25 April) we are going to deploy the alpha opt-in version of
the VisualEditor to some non-English Wikipedias in the same way that it
has been on the English Wikipedia since December 2012.

This will let users get familiar with the VisualEditor, give us feedback
on what works and what is broken, and help us prioritise further work
ahead of the planned deployment as a 'default' editor for all users which
we intend to do in a few months' time.

Due to a number of issues we have been unable to release VisualEditor to
non-English wikis until now, and we would very much like to get some great
feedback from as many wikis as possible - especially for extended Unicode
and RTL languages, but also other languages. Does the VisualEditor work in
your language? Does it gel with your wiki's workflow?

The initial languages we want to target are the "top 10" Wikipedias by way
of scale - de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja - plus selected others to
help us discover issues we anticipate: ar, he, hi, ko, zh. These will let
us test most of the locales we are concerned about. If this goes well, we
hope to deploy the opt-in alpha to all Wikipedias.

Please tell your wiki colleagues that this is coming, especially if your
wiki is in this list! Additionally, you can see how fully-translated the
software is into your language in the stats at TranslateWiki.Net[0] -
please encourage wiki colleagues to help translate the messages ahead of
the deployment!

As a note, we have just updated the VisualEditor integration so that the
"Edit" tab goes to VisualEditor, and there is an "Edit source" tab to go
to the wikitext editor.

This change (which affects the English Wikipedia opt-in deployment and
MediaWiki.org as well as the new deployments mentioned above) moves the
way that VisualEditor integrates with the wiki's workflow to be closer to
how it will appear when it is the 'default' editor. It is still easy to
use the wikitext editor if that is what you want to do - the "Edit source"
tab (at least for now) will be "above the fold" and not in the drop-down
menu on Vector.

Happy to answer any questions you might have!

Yours,
--
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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[Wikimedia-l] Proposal: [WCA][Governance] Training for chapter and thematic org. board members

2013-04-21 Thread Fae
The majority of chapter boards (and the proposed thematic
organizations) do not routinely have an induction process with
training in expected reporting requirements, liability as directors,
the role of oversight and how to maintain a competent and professional
board function, etc.

At the Milan conference, I shall be proposing that the WCA takes a
lead in arranging a shared training course and workshop with the aim
of this being a regular planned activity, so that chapters and other
groups agree basic expectations for the behaviours and competencies of
board members, and benefit from the efficiencies of a shared training
event, hopefully hosted by one of the chapters with handy facilities
to support it.

I have chatted about this proposition during coffee breaks with 4
different 'large' chapters, and the feedback so far is that this would
be an easy way of improving the quality of our governance and of
definite direct benefit to many of our organizations.

Cheers,
Fae
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Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae

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