Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00: Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says: And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting and keeping editors ??? It is difficult to draw conclusions about user behavior. The more difficult it is to say something about the behavior of persons, which are not yet detectable part of the community. Because it's probably the most difficulty to make predictions about facts that take place in the future. Well, sv.wiki has just volunteered to be your guinea pig as the first botpedia after Volapuk. :) I think it will be possible to make at least some simple stats like how many new editors we got with first edit on one of these articles, what's their retention etc. If the experiment fails, we may see mass-deletion of a million bot articles in a few years: it wouldn't be the first time, deleting is very easy. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, but to reach out to others open to the new opportunities that automation gives us in better reahing our aim free knowledge for all The base fact figures for sv:wp is Increase of views +23% on yearly basis, WM:DE +3, WMF:Fr +8 (all mature wikipediauser communities), nl with +14 and wm:it with +16 also very good figures (Spain Russia, and Portugal still in a built up phase have higher numbers) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm Editor 1 and 5 somewhat up or stable, new editor up in Jan, Feb, March, but down in April (eastertime) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaSV.htm For my statement though I base it on that I 24/7 monitor ALL edits (there is around 50 in 15 min, 500 on 2,5 h, longer during night). And I have observed the effect of introducing our lakearticles (these are made up from three sources containing more then 100 different items of data, see for example http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_%C3%B6ver_insj%C3%B6ar_i_Ljungby_kommun where you can pick any or from the googlemap can find any from its place). And here I find after these are created a flur of new edits in old articles (as well as these) many from earlier more passive contributers users, and even some new. And there are photo safaris now being discussed to take photos of some of all these lakes (we find that to work with articles close to your home seems to be very simulating) Anders Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev 2013-06-18 08:05: Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00: Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says: And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting and keeping editors ??? It is difficult to draw conclusions about user behavior. The more difficult it is to say something about the behavior of persons, which are not yet detectable part of the community. Because it's probably the most difficulty to make predictions about facts that take place in the future. Well, sv.wiki has just volunteered to be your guinea pig as the first botpedia after Volapuk. :) I think it will be possible to make at least some simple stats like how many new editors we got with first edit on one of these articles, what's their retention etc. If the experiment fails, we may see mass-deletion of a million bot articles in a few years: it wouldn't be the first time, deleting is very easy. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
On 18/06/13 01:04, Martin Rulsch wrote: As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team. It isn't exactly planned by the Wikidata tema, a volunteer would need to do it. 2013/6/18 Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl Hello, I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also some remarks that good be understood as a criticism of the German Wikipedia editing community. Actually, both opinions coexist also in de.WP, although the anti bot faction is obviously stronger. My concern is that bot articles usually stay the same and don't grow much. They give a bad impression about a Wikipedia language version, and there is no one to update them. Maybe it would be better to support WikiData and later find a solution with WikiData to provide data to small or large ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
Anders Wennersten, 18/06/2013 09:00: I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, [...] To clarify, my view on life didn't include any item about bot article creation last time I checked. There's also nothing I always have done on this topic, as far as I remember: I'm just observing global patterns in our wikis. I really don't care about single instances of the patterns, especially when I can't do anything about them. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Fantastic - and fascinating. Would love to see a blog post by someone from the chapter or by one of them. Bravo for reaching out to forgotten people. Bishakha On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this. In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison approach Wikipedians? Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site: https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail SJ SJ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Now THIS is seriously clever! Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to knowledge to a community who is often forgotten. Can you link to the press release here, please? -Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
This is a really wonderful project, I am a big believer in producing educational opportunities to gaoled prisoners so that they can lead more productive lives upon their release, and hopefully this project goes a little way towards making that happen. Bravo, Wikimedia CH! Cheers, Craig Franklin On 18 June 2013 00:15, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 18/06/13 01:04, Martin Rulsch wrote: As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team. It isn't exactly planned by the Wikidata tema, a volunteer would need to do it. What exactly are you talking about being planned by the team? I'm not sure we're all talking about the same thing. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
Seriously, are we discussing again about bot stubs yes, bot stubs no? Those users who want to submit complete 10-page articles, can move to the defunct Nupedia or the 'vibrant' Citizendium. This eternal discussion is so boring. 2013/6/18 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 18/06/13 01:04, Martin Rulsch wrote: As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team. It isn't exactly planned by the Wikidata tema, a volunteer would need to do it. What exactly are you talking about being planned by the team? I'm not sure we're all talking about the same thing. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
Hear, hear Thanks, GerardM Op 18 jun. 2013 12:08 schreef Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada emi...@gmail.com het volgende: Seriously, are we discussing again about bot stubs yes, bot stubs no? Those users who want to submit complete 10-page articles, can move to the defunct Nupedia or the 'vibrant' Citizendium. This eternal discussion is so boring. 2013/6/18 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 18/06/13 01:04, Martin Rulsch wrote: As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team. It isn't exactly planned by the Wikidata tema, a volunteer would need to do it. What exactly are you talking about being planned by the team? I'm not sure we're all talking about the same thing. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipe dia reach (…)
2013-06-18, 00:57, skrev Ziko van Dijk: Hello, I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also some remarks that good be understood as a criticism of the German Wikipedia editing community. Actually, both opinions coexist also in de.WP, although the anti bot faction is obviously stronger. My concern is that bot articles usually stay the same and don't grow much. They give a bad impression about a Wikipedia language version, and there is no one to update them. Maybe it would be better to support WikiData and later find a solution with WikiData to provide data to small or large Wikipedia language versions. Kind regards Ziko Many thanks for your clarifying reply. I just thought it a bit strange that these kinds of arguments (including bad language in a mail communication) were/are coming from a certain direction. No offense intended from my part. Your idea of the extended use of Wikidata is also discussed in the svwp community, and there are some obvious possibilites. Right now we are getting accostumed to the new way of interwiki linking, where often (through the proportionate weight of enwp) the specific English definition of words and concepts are taken for granted. Best of wikiwishes, /Per ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
I am a bit suprised about the lack of trying to understand and develop mindsets here. I joined this mailing list the other day in the belief that it was directed at discussing current topics in the Wikimedia community in a constructive manner. So far I have not found overwhelming proof of this. Hopefully I can be proved wrong. Best of wishes, Per Wikipedia user Paracel63 2013-06-18, 09:32, skrev Federico Leva (Nemo): Anders Wennersten, 18/06/2013 09:00: I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, [...] To clarify, my view on life didn't include any item about bot article creation last time I checked. There's also nothing I always have done on this topic, as far as I remember: I'm just observing global patterns in our wikis. I really don't care about single instances of the patterns, especially when I can't do anything about them. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach (...)
Very good point. (Personally I think building a localised Wikispecies – with the potential to grow – inside a Wikipedia version is something good.) Many thanks, /Per Wikipedia user Paracel63 2013-06-18, 14:50, skrev Gerard Meijssen: Hear, hear Thanks, GerardM Op 18 jun. 2013 12:08 schreef Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada emi...@gmail.com het volgende: Seriously, are we discussing again about bot stubs yes, bot stubs no? Those users who want to submit complete 10-page articles, can move to the defunct Nupedia or the 'vibrant' Citizendium. This eternal discussion is so boring. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
Hi Per, The discussions on this list can be heated, and not everyone is always on their best behavior. All the caveats of debate on the Internet apply, and any personality problems you might encounter on Wikimedia projects occur on the lists as well. This is particularly so when, as in this case, the topic has been debated for many years without real resolution. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: The base fact figures for sv:wp is Increase of views +23% on yearly basis, WM:DE +3, WMF:Fr +8 (all mature wikipediauser communities), nl with +14 and wm:it with +16 also very good figures (Spain Russia, and Portugal still in a built up phase have higher numbers) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined** .htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm Editor 1 and 5 somewhat up or stable, new editor up in Jan, Feb, March, but down in April (eastertime) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaSV.htm Instead of just discussing this topic as always has been done, it would be great to take advantage of the opportunity to monitor changes in the sv-wp community as a result of this massive automated article creation. For me it would be interesting to know: 1) current perception in the community about automated articles correlated with the number of contributions by the person answering. 2) impact of the newly created articles: views, human edits done to those articles (specially nr of bytes added), correlation with nr of previous edits 3) changes in the community after 1 year, survey of new members, of those, how many registered after seeing a bot article vs how many after seeing a human-created article? 4) some metrics about the article quality (maybe with AFT) Otherwise the same arguments are going to be repeated over and over again, year after year, without ever reaching a conclusion, or without ever learning which impact those articles might have. Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
2013-06-18, 06:34, skrev Hubertl: Loosing our original idea for which this project is donated by thousands of donaters! From which you are paid for. As an unpaid, long term Wikipedian in Residence I do know what I´m talking about. Hello! I'm interested in knowing more of your experience (as a WiR) in relation to our current topics. Do you have a link to relevant data och texts/reports? Many thanks in advance, /Per Wikipedia user Paracel63 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
On 18 June 2013 16:53, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: great to take advantage of the opportunity to monitor changes in the sv-wp community as a result of this massive automated article creation. For me it would be interesting to know: [suggestions for metrics] Otherwise the same arguments are going to be repeated over and over again, year after year, without ever reaching a conclusion, or without ever learning which impact those articles might have. +1 - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
Many thanks for the resumé. I thought it would be like this, as I've followed the development of the different wikipedias (content and key factors) since 2008. BTW, is there a (searchable) list archive? Best of wishes, /Per 2013-06-18, 17:29, skrev Nathan: Hi Per, The discussions on this list can be heated, and not everyone is always on their best behavior. All the caveats of debate on the Internet apply, and any personality problems you might encounter on Wikimedia projects occur on the lists as well. This is particularly so when, as in this case, the topic has been debated for many years without real resolution. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipe dia reaches (…)
Great idea! I'm going to try a way of doing this, through svwp and/or WMSE. Best of wishes, /Per Wikipedia user Paracel63 2013-06-18, 17:53, skrev David Cuenca: Instead of just discussing this topic as always has been done, it would be great to take advantage of the opportunity to monitor changes in the sv-wp community as a result of this massive automated article creation. For me it would be interesting to know: 1) current perception in the community about automated articles correlated with the number of contributions by the person answering. 2) impact of the newly created articles: views, human edits done to those articles (specially nr of bytes added), correlation with nr of previous edits 3) changes in the community after 1 year, survey of new members, of those, how many registered after seeing a bot article vs how many after seeing a human-created article? 4) some metrics about the article quality (maybe with AFT) Otherwise the same arguments are going to be repeated over and over again, year after year, without ever reaching a conclusion, or without ever learning which impact those articles might have. Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)
Per A.J. Andersson, 18/06/2013 18:05: Many thanks for the resumé. I thought it would be like this, as I've followed the development of the different wikipedias (content and key factors) since 2008. BTW, is there a (searchable) list archive? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/ More info at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists There is a summary at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Manual_for_small_and_new_Wikipedias#Content_questions, where I added some links a few days ago including https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal_for_Policy_on_overuse_of_bots_in_Wikipedias Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this
My project does not aim to be an expansive database like Wikidata. The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of addressing our current problems (environmental destruction world hunger, etc.). Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please check them out. Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map Countries ranked by 2011 GDP 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia On 18 June 2013 03:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data. This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a different goal. Could you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the difference in goal. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UN subscribe me from Wikimedia---IMMEDIATELY
Many consider a unsubscription link that requires more than two clicks (one click on the link, maybe one more on an 'are you sure' or 'confirm' button) to be bad. Could be a software limitation on the mailing list service we are using. Regards, Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]] On 17 Jun, 2013, at 3:32 AM, Adrian Raddatz ajradd...@gmail.com wrote: You do realize that every message has an unsubscribe option at the bottom, right? That's the easiest way to get off of this list. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Isaacs dwi...@yahoo.com wrote: I request to removed from the lists of people interested in receiving information from Wikimedia. UNsubscribe my account Immediately. My E-Mail Address: dwi...@yahoo.com I will EXPECT to receive a confirmation that my Wikimedia Account is PERMANENTLY CLOSED. Mary K. Isaacs ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Adrian Raddatz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UN subscribe me from Wikimedia---IMMEDIATELY
Many others consider a unsubscription link that requires more than two clicks (one click on the link, and one more on an 'are you sure' or 'confirm' button) to be good, so that you not accidentily unsubscribe. *Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48 2013/6/18 Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com Many consider a unsubscription link that requires more than two clicks (one click on the link, maybe one more on an 'are you sure' or 'confirm' button) to be bad. Could be a software limitation on the mailing list service we are using. Regards, Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]] On 17 Jun, 2013, at 3:32 AM, Adrian Raddatz ajradd...@gmail.com wrote: You do realize that every message has an unsubscribe option at the bottom, right? That's the easiest way to get off of this list. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Isaacs dwi...@yahoo.com wrote: I request to removed from the lists of people interested in receiving information from Wikimedia. UNsubscribe my account Immediately. My E-Mail Address: dwi...@yahoo.com I will EXPECT to receive a confirmation that my Wikimedia Account is PERMANENTLY CLOSED. Mary K. Isaacs ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Adrian Raddatz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UN subscribe me from Wikimedia---IMMEDIATELY
Many consider that there are too many newbies on Internet that gets angry too easily and don't have patience with trivial things. Tom -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) OKFN Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre http://br.okfn.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
Hi all, a friend of mine is moderating a debate about Wikipedia for diplomat, professor Marília Maciel, and I think it is of interested of some wikimedians. Please, see more infomation bellow http://www.diplomacy.edu/calendar/webinar-wikipedia-diplomats Diplo Foundation has cood courses on Internet Governance that may be of interest of those participating of some recent threads I've seen here. Share also with your local community. Regards, Tom -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) OKFN Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre http://br.okfn.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
That would be very interesting and useful information Cheers, Peter (User:Pbsouthwood) - Original Message - From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots) On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: The base fact figures for sv:wp is Increase of views +23% on yearly basis, WM:DE +3, WMF:Fr +8 (all mature wikipediauser communities), nl with +14 and wm:it with +16 also very good figures (Spain Russia, and Portugal still in a built up phase have higher numbers) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined** .htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm Editor 1 and 5 somewhat up or stable, new editor up in Jan, Feb, March, but down in April (eastertime) http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaSV.htm Instead of just discussing this topic as always has been done, it would be great to take advantage of the opportunity to monitor changes in the sv-wp community as a result of this massive automated article creation. For me it would be interesting to know: 1) current perception in the community about automated articles correlated with the number of contributions by the person answering. 2) impact of the newly created articles: views, human edits done to those articles (specially nr of bytes added), correlation with nr of previous edits 3) changes in the community after 1 year, survey of new members, of those, how many registered after seeing a bot article vs how many after seeing a human-created article? 4) some metrics about the article quality (maybe with AFT) Otherwise the same arguments are going to be repeated over and over again, year after year, without ever reaching a conclusion, or without ever learning which impact those articles might have. Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: http://www.diplomacy.edu/calendar/webinar-wikipedia-diplomats Is it just me who was surprised to see that Bence will be representing the Affiliations Committee during that webinar? I know for a fact that AffCom involves a lot of behind–the–scenes talks et al., but I don't think it's directly related to diplomacy issues? -- Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
I will be representing myself as a Wikimedia volunteer, who happens to hold a title related to AffCom and has a somewhat theoretical education of what diplomacy is supposed to be. I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics. The webinar will be broadcast using Google Hangouts probably on the Diplo Foundation's channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/DiploFoundation), but if you register, you will get the link to the broadcast. Best regards, Bence On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: http://www.diplomacy.edu/**calendar/webinar-wikipedia-**diplomatshttp://www.diplomacy.edu/calendar/webinar-wikipedia-diplomats Is it just me who was surprised to see that Bence will be representing the Affiliations Committee during that webinar? I know for a fact that AffCom involves a lot of behind–the–scenes talks et al., but I don't think it's directly related to diplomacy issues? -- Tomasz __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Bence Damokos wrote: I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics. Quite the contrary, I think you're very knowledgeable about the subject—but what does AffCom have to do with it? If you're going to talk about Wikipedia's role in disseminating information about diplomacy issues, then I think it should be simply 'Bence Damokos, Wikipedian'. (No offence intended, etc.) None taken and thanks for the suggestion. In this case, I believe the best solution would have been to mention that I am the chair of AffCom, to make it clear that this is a position I hold (like the director level officials who will be the other participants) and not my qualification. Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
Bence Damokos wrote: I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics. Quite the contrary, I think you're very knowledgeable about the subject—but what does AffCom have to do with it? If you're going to talk about Wikipedia's role in disseminating information about diplomacy issues, then I think it should be simply 'Bence Damokos, Wikipedian'. (No offence intended, etc.) -- Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)
Thanks Everton, I will be sure to join the Webinar. How can diplomats contribute to improve Wikipedia articles to increase their public diplomacy value? I am doing a Wikipedia project that is highly related to this issue that attempts to standardize economic data on Wikipedia for every country and city in the world. It's essentially the periodic table for economics. I guarantee this will be a valuable resource in the future. Please check it out: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map Here are draft articles I am working on for the top ten economies: Countries ranked by 2011 GDP 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia On 18 June 2013 11:54, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: I will be representing myself as a Wikimedia volunteer, who happens to hold a title related to AffCom and has a somewhat theoretical education of what diplomacy is supposed to be. I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics. The webinar will be broadcast using Google Hangouts probably on the Diplo Foundation's channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/DiploFoundation), but if you register, you will get the link to the broadcast. Best regards, Bence On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: http://www.diplomacy.edu/**calendar/webinar-wikipedia-**diplomats http://www.diplomacy.edu/calendar/webinar-wikipedia-diplomats Is it just me who was surprised to see that Bence will be representing the Affiliations Committee during that webinar? I know for a fact that AffCom involves a lot of behind–the–scenes talks et al., but I don't think it's directly related to diplomacy issues? -- Tomasz __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [okfn-discuss] OKCon 2013 Call for Proposals – out now!
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote: It'd be great to see wikimedians there. Tom Did anybody get their talk accepted? Not me. Still considering to go though, espeially if other here are planning to attend as well. The schedule so far: http://okcon.org/schedule/ -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result
Update: We've added an enhancement to Wikipedia Zero so that if a user who isn't on a participating carrier network navigates to a Wikipedia Zero page on language.zero.wikipedia.org, such as http://en.zero.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_%28band%29 , the user will be presented an option to visit the canonical URL of the article. If clicked, the canonical URL should get the user to the mobile or desktop version of the page, based on device type. We're hoping that by next week the Google index will be refreshed so as to correctly mark the language.zero.wikipedia.org pages as duplicate pages in the omitted section. Upon confirmation of as much, the current plan is to introduce https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/69420/ to prevent indexing of language.zero.wikipedia.org altogether. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: All, My mistake. The pages in Google's index that I used for sampling - the ones that have Sorry, ... in their description in Google search results - are cached pages. I assumed incorrectly that those pages were based on recent indexing (e.g., in the past few days). I think we can actually stick to the original plan of Google re-indexing and the search results de-emphasizing the language.zero.wikipedia.orglinks within the next 30 days. I still find it strange that there are language.zero.wikipedia.orglinks that turned up higher in the search engine rankings than their better-established language.wikipedia.org counterparts. But I suppose with fewer competing page elements, especially on long-tail articles with fewer or no direct links to the desktop page, this is maybe not totally unexpected. -Adam On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello All, We had shelved my patch, patch 64629https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64629, in hopes that an earlier patch, patch 61809https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61809(bug 35233 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35233), would resolve the issue naturally as Google re-indexed. But it appears Google has re-indexed and yet the .zero.wikipedia.org URLs are still present in Google's index, instead of the language.wikipedia.org URLs. I have thus resubmitted patch 64629https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64629 for re-review. We will need to further discuss whether it is appropriate to have Google completely remove .zero.wikipedia.org links from their cache, or if perhaps we need to open a support thread with Google about canonical URLs. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Adam Baso (copied on this email) is working on it and a fix is ready. He'll do some testing to make sure it's resolved. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Looping Dan Foy in who's managing the Zero backlog. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:01 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: K. Peachey wrote: Can you please file this in bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48856 MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Kul Wadhwa Head of Mobile Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2013/2014 budget again (m/Oppenheim on YouTube)
SJ: As we may be very close to having a Board of Trustee approved budget, I suggest we wait until we can release the full Annual Plan document on July 1, so that there is context for the Wikimedia Foundation spending plan for FY 13-14. Regards, Garfield On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Sue: can we share the one-page summary from the current draft? SJ On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Hi, a couple of weeks ago, I noticed this interview given by Sue to m/Oppenheim Associates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRqtx9-A0c. At 11:19 http://youtu.be/4gRqtx9-A0c?t=11m19s Sue mentions that in the next year (2013/2014), the WMF is going to spend US$55 million. Are there any documents that we as community members could read to see what exactly will this money be spent on? And is mentioning budget plans on YouTube now the preferred way of communication between the WMF and its donors/community members? -- Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy
Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I am using Wikipedia as a platform for this project to gain recognition. I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of addressing our current problems. Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. This project will enable the voting public to clearly see the injustices of today's world economy. I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. We must build schools in developing countries with taxpayer money in rich countries. We have the power to fix a lot of the world's problems if we only allocated our resources properly. I have listed below draft article that I have been working on (not finished). Please check them out. I would love any help I can get. 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy
Hi Alex, just curious - since you refer to yourself as an economist, what institution(s) are you affiliated with? And can you explain how writing Economy of X articles, no matter how detailed, will solve the problem of uneven resource distribution around the world? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I am using Wikipedia as a platform for this project to gain recognition. I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of addressing our current problems. Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. This project will enable the voting public to clearly see the injustices of today's world economy. I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. We must build schools in developing countries with taxpayer money in rich countries. We have the power to fix a lot of the world's problems if we only allocated our resources properly. I have listed below draft article that I have been working on (not finished). Please check them out. I would love any help I can get. 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!
Very cool. I'm curious, did the prison have any concerns about content or want things filtered out? I've know that some prisons don't allow reading material that is sexual, violent, etc. Did restrictions like that have to be considered? Obviously, most of Wikipedia is pretty mundane, but if you look hard enough I'm sure some people might find things to object to. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and Wikimedia CH Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). The idea is to stimulate or to support the interest for education of prisoners who were, for a large majority, condemned to long-time sentences. After three months of pilot phasis, the project is successful : Among the 36 prisoners of the Bellevue’s prison in Gorgier, 18 possess or rent a computer. All of them requested the upload of Wikipedia offline on their PC. For security reasons, swiss prisoners have a very restricted access to internet. More informations in the press releases (ENG, DE, FR, IT) that was sent today to the swiss media Regards, Charles ___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy
I want to clarify that I am not a professional economist. I am a financial economics major at Western Washington University. These 'Economy of X' are designed for laypersons to see the economic reality of the world. I believe if the public were more informed on economics, we would better chance solving world hunger. Once this project is finished, one will clearly see that there are resources available to solve most of societies problems. I believe that my project provides a very strong argument for humanitarian organizations in the world. This project is a fundamentally missing piece of the economic conversation. On 18 June 2013 18:33, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, just curious - since you refer to yourself as an economist, what institution(s) are you affiliated with? And can you explain how writing Economy of X articles, no matter how detailed, will solve the problem of uneven resource distribution around the world? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I am using Wikipedia as a platform for this project to gain recognition. I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of addressing our current problems. Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. This project will enable the voting public to clearly see the injustices of today's world economy. I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention. My intentions are altruistic. People are dying of starvation everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. We must build schools in developing countries with taxpayer money in rich countries. We have the power to fix a lot of the world's problems if we only allocated our resources properly. I have listed below draft article that I have been working on (not finished). Please check them out. I would love any help I can get. 1. United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States 2. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China 3. Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan 4. Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany 5. France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France 6. Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil 7. United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom 8. Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy 9. India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India 10. Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: [...] These 'Economy of X' are designed for laypersons to see the economic reality of the world. So it could be considered a set of articles for http://simple.wikipedia.org? Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy
Thank you I will set that up On 18 June 2013 20:40, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: [...] These 'Economy of X' are designed for laypersons to see the economic reality of the world. So it could be considered a set of articles for http://simple.wikipedia.org? Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l