[Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices

[Romaine Wiki]

On the Dutch Wikipedia users have indicated that they perceive the number of 
Global Notices too much and the more that happens the more users will start to 
add code to their preferences to fully block every notice as they are so tired 
of them.

The current load of negative feedback about the banners is currently coming up 
after the especially the FDC banners

Every week a new notice is considered too much.

I already noticed earlier that there is also some kind of banner blindness for 
many users: they get a banner on pages but do not look at them any more just as 
it are adds.

This time several users got a notice in English what was perceived disturbing.

Also they experience getting banners as not interesting for Wikipedia.

As bonus I personally and other users have experienced that clicking away a 
banner made the banner appear again within the hour visiting other pages. I had 
that at least four times on a project, on several projects. Re-appeasring after 
being clicked away is useless and disturbing.

Also it is annoying that I need to click the same banners away on each project 
I visit, many users visit Wikipedia, but also work on Commons, Wikidata, etc.


I think the the CentralNotice should be redesigned or the CentralNotice will 
loose it effectiveness. Something is really going wrong.


Romaine

(tech ambassador for nl Wikipedia)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Strainu]

Hi,

Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too
long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps.

The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets
you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the
messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not
visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing
for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able
to move the box.

I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure
how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was
put in the middle of the page (horizontally)

Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of
implementing it on other wikis?

Thanks,
  Strainu

2013/10/28 Katherine Casey :
> Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am
> experiencing them):
>
>- This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be!
>- Instructions sometimes tell me to click "edit source" and sometimes to
>click "edit", even though it always means that I should click "edit
>source". Since the VE button says "edit", this is potentially pretty
>confusing.
>- At the end of missions, the button says "Congrats me!". That's pretty
>jarring English - more natural would be either, "Congrats, me!" or
>"Congrats to me!"
>- The "select how you would reply to this person" challenges
>are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think
>they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out "hey, you
>shouldn't be a rude jackass" as if it's someone's going to read those
>options and go "yes! this is clearly how I should act!". More useful would
>be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage with
>some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is useful
>to provide to other users.
>- Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't
>seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the results
>of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in another)
>- The "watchlist" module has instructions that are a little bit
>confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc), but
>then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the "top right". Since both
>the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's likely
>going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the star
>you just explained, or the link you didn't.
>- In general when you're telling people to "click X above", it might be
>useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on something that
>literally says that - tell them to *click "contributions" above *rather
>than to *click contributions above*
>- When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed
>to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I couldn't
>correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped out of
>the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick back up
>there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the instructions box,
>or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what it
>wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page with
>its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I had
>to click the X)
>
> In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through
> (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that
> need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get
> through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure.
>
> -Fluffernutter
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided
>> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF
>> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
>> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
>>
>> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically
>> try to break it.  I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of
>> course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues,
>> layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent
>> people from playing through and having a positive experience.
>>
>> *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this
>> week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar,
>> c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark
>> on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts.
>>
>> *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace
>> and it lets you know when tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

[Vishnu T]

Dear Ansuman,

On 28 October 2013 16:46, ansuman  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This is part of the replies of Vishnu four months ago.
>
>
> ---
> ---
>
> Me:
> And also tell the community, who are all involved in the interview process
> and selection process, and why?
>
> Vishnu:
> BEFORE EVEN PUBLISHING THE JOB ADVERTISEMENT WE HAD DECIDED TO PUBLISH A
> BLOG POST/WRITE-UP ON THE SELECTION PROCESS AND SHARE IT WITH THE WIKIMEDIA
> INDIA COMMUNITY AS PART OF OUR TRANSPARENCY MEASURE. ONCE THIS IS UP, WILL
> SHARE THE LINK.
>

We have published a blog post on the Program Officer selection process on
September 10, 2013.[1]  This has also been shared with the Indian Wikimedia
community as part of the September A2K Newsletter [2], which was posted on
all the Indian Wikimedia lists.

Best,
Vishnu

[1]
http://cis-india.org/openness/blog/selection-of-programme-officer-pilot-projects-a2k
[2]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-October/010575.html
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[Wikimedia-l] Hearing Loop at Wikimedia UK

[Richard Symonds]

All,

We've just purchased a hearing loop for the UK chapter, to make it easier
for those with hearing difficulties to partake in discussions and events.
The loop doesn't have a huge range, so it's not good for full conferences,
and is instead best for smaller meetings of 3-4 people.

We'll work to update the various event pages to include this information in
the next few weeks. This loop can be requested by anyone running or
attending events (provided we know who's in charge of it). I'd be really
keen on hearing from people how it can be "effectively utilised", and
doesn't just sit around gathering dust. Every time that it could be used,
we want it to be used. We'd be happy to lend it to other chapters for short
periods too (although it's a UK/240v charging system).

All the best,

Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Overloaded with CentralNotices

[Konstantinos Stampoulis]

2013/10/29 Dan Garry 
>
> How would you suggest we tackle this problem?
>

Echo can be a good alternative.
Imagine a new notification for every user, a "global notice" (not a talk
page message)
This can be sent to registered users, with its own icon, a notification
message with text simillar to what it would be included in a banner, and
linking to the relevant page (instead of own talk page etc).
So, every user will get it only once, but he can go back to it by clicking
the notifications icon.

mockup: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echo-centralnotice.png

Konstantinos Stampoulis
ger...@geraki.gr
http://www.geraki.gr
---
Οι παραπάνω απόψεις είναι προσωπικές και δεν εκφράζουν παρά μόνο εμένα. Το
μήνυμα θεωρείται εμπιστευτικό μόνο εάν το έχω ζητήσει ρητά, διαφορετικά
μπορείτε να το χρησιμοποιήσετε σε οποιαδήποτε δημόσια συζήτηση.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices

[Tilman Bayer]

Hi Romaine,

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Romaine Wiki  wrote:
> On the Dutch Wikipedia users have indicated that they perceive the number of 
> Global Notices too much and the more that happens the more users will start 
> to add code to their preferences to fully block every notice as they are so 
> tired of them.
>
> The current load of negative feedback about the banners is currently coming 
> up after the especially the FDC banners

I assume that by "current load of negative feedback", you mean the
comments by Grashoofd and Saschaporsche in this discussion?
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Wikimedia_Spam
Thank you for resolving some misconceptions there (e.g. the assumption
that these banners were shown to all Dutch Wikipedia readers  - they
are set to be displayed to logged-in users only); I also responded to
some other points in that thread.

About the FDC banners in general:

The FDC - itself consisting of volunteer community members - considers
it really important that the editing community gets to have a say in
the process of how donation money is allocated to various Wikimedia
organizations in the FDC process. See e.g. their recent blog post at
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/25/call-for-community-input-funding-proposals-11-wikimedia-organisations/
(as mentioned there, this time the decisions are particularly
difficult, as the amount requested in this round is already close to
what's available for the whole year including next round's requests,
$6 million). Without the work of the editing community, this money
would not be available. Even if admittedly many editors are either not
interested in participating in discussions on how to spend it, or do
not have the time, I think it's still important to widely inform the
community of this possibility.

CentralNotice banners are currently the most effective way of making
community members aware of this opportunity to influence the process,
which happens twice a year (once a year if you only consider a
particular organization/country), and is closing soon for this round.
The country-specific FDC banners invite editors to comment
specifically on the funding request from an organization in that
country (Wikimedia Nederland in this case), which is assumed to be
particularly relevant for them, as the majority of the planned
spending in each proposal tends to be for activities supporting
precisely this local editing community.

>
> Every week a new notice is considered too much.

I assume that "every week" is a rhetorical expression. However, it's
true that this month there have been three campaigns specific to the
Dutch Wikipedia/the Netherlands.  Curiously, you are omitting the fact
that it was yourself who ran two of them:

"WMNL-register-WCN-2013" (inviting registration for the
Wikiconferentie) - run on "high" priority for both logged-in and
anonymous users, for 17 days in two countries

"WMNL-edit-a-thon-DenHaag"  (inviting participation in an edit-a-thon)
 - run on "high" priority for both logged-in and anonymous users, for
two days in one country


In comparison, the above mentioned FDC community review invitations
run on "normal" priority and only for logged-in users, i.e. get vastly
less exposure than these two event invitations. And I would argue that
the number of users who are able to follow the invitation to
participate in an online activity (like commenting on a wiki page in
case of the FDC, or uploading images in case of WLM) is much higher
than the number of users who are able to travel and spend the time to
attend a physical event in a particular location. I'm not opposed to
the use of CentralNotice to promote a nationwide annual conference.
However, if one is concerned about banner blindness and worried that
users are "overloaded with CentralNotices", it's probably worth asking
the question if a single editathon in one city needs to be advertised
with "high" priority countrywide banners to anonymous users. The
English Wikipedia tends to use geotargeted watchlist notices for that
kind of announcement instead
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Geonotice ).

>
> I already noticed earlier that there is also some kind of banner blindness 
> for many users: they get a banner on pages but do not look at them any more 
> just as it are adds.
>
That's indeed something to be concerned about, and it's one reason for
adding upcoming banner campaigns to the public planning page at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar , to facilitate
coordination and discussion. It seems that this wasn't done for the
above mentioned editathon banners. The current FDC banners have been
announced there since October 1, and while I am taking the criticism
that you are mentioning serious, I would also like to note that it is
the first such criticism about them that is coming to my attention.

> This time several users got a notice in English what was perceived disturbing.
>
All the FDC banners contain a link inviting to add miss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Overloaded with CentralNotices

[Tilman Bayer]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Konstantinos Stampoulis
 wrote:
> 2013/10/29 Dan Garry 
>>
>> How would you suggest we tackle this problem?
>>
>
> Echo can be a good alternative.
> Imagine a new notification for every user, a "global notice" (not a talk
> page message)
> This can be sent to registered users, with its own icon, a notification
> message with text simillar to what it would be included in a banner, and
> linking to the relevant page (instead of own talk page etc).
> So, every user will get it only once, but he can go back to it by clicking
> the notifications icon.
>
> mockup: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echo-centralnotice.png
>

Yes, that could be a great idea, in particular when combined with some
kind of topic-specific opt-in and opt-out.

There has been quite a bit of thinking about technical solutions to
this kind of problem, including hope that Echo and/or Flow could play
a role in them. See e.g. the material at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Movement_broadcasting , in particular
the linked Wikimania presentations from this year (by Andrew Gray) and
last year (by myself).


-- 
Tilman Bayer
Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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[Wikimedia-l] WMF Audit

[Garfield Byrd]

The Wikimedia Foundation has published its Audit and Audit FAQ for the
fiscal year ending June 30, 2013 on our Financial Reports
page.
Please contact me with any questions.

Regards,

Garfield

-- 
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Annual Reports for 2012-13

[Kirill Lokshin]

Hello everyone,

Wikimedia DC has just published our Annual Report [1] and unaudited Annual
Financial Report [2] for our 2012-13 fiscal year.  Copies of the reports
will be posted on Meta shortly.

As always, any comments or suggestions would be very welcome.

Cheers,
Kirill

[1] http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_report_(2012–2013)
[2] http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_financial_report_(2012–2013)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

[Romaine Wiki]

Hi Tilman,

Unfortunately it seems that many users experience the FDC as most away from 
their bed and saw the notice in English what triggered the users to write their 
annoyance down. The current load of feedback is indeed on that page, and I 
tried to reply as damage control to limit the number of annoyance as that often 
comes as result of having little or no information / explanation. Also I tried 
to resolve some misconceptions. I personally do understand why WMF wants to 
show this banner and tried in general to explain it. 

In the past 2 months there have been shown 7 different banners in the 
Netherlands and also one Sitenotice. Wiki Loves Monuments started on nl-wiki, 
has been communicated well about and users understand that a banner is shown 
for it. In November a conference (WCN) is organized, many users attend it and 
people understand why a banner is shown. Two days a banner was shown for an 
edit-a-thon, as edit-a-thons are documented and users see a direct result in 
Wikipedia they understand and accept that. These three campaigns are community 
driven banners. Yes I created those, but my role is to support the local 
community and try to connect between the local community and 
developers/tech/WMF/Wikimedia Netherlands/Wikimedia Belgium/etc. Also the 
Sitenotice was community driven: it was for a writing contest on Wikipedia.

4 other banners have been set up: for the fundraiser (most experienced users do 
already donate their time, and do not want to donate money too, but in general 
users understand why it is needed and accept that), for the Privacy Policy (not 
much nl users commented), there was earlier a banner for the FDC, and now there 
is a banner for FDC. FDC is for most users far away, and this time it was also 
in English. The community seems to experience the subject of FDC something that 
should not be in a banner on every page for every logged in user. Then the 
annoyance is bigger than the understanding and complaints come up.


> I'm not opposed to the use of CentralNotice to promote a nationwide annual 
> conference.

The community that comes to the annual conference is spread over several 
projects.


> it's probably worth asking the question if a single editathon in one
> city needs to be advertised with "high" priority countrywide banners
> to anonymous users.

It seems that the local community has not a problem with this banner, however I 
personally do consider that we should not create a banner for a subject like 
this after having this evaluated. But the local community requested it and 
seems not having a problem with this banner.


> The English Wikipedia tends to use geotargeted watchlist notices
> for that kind of announcement instead

The English Wikipedia has been edited by many users around the world and there 
it sounds handy. The Dutch community is spread over several wiki's, that is why 
is why a Sitenotice is less used.


> That's indeed something to be concerned about, and it's one reason for
> adding upcoming banner campaigns to the public planning page at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar , to facilitate
> coordination and discussion.

This did not prevented that the Privacy Policy was set up at the same time as 
the banner for Wiki Loves Monuments, and there we noticed that the two banners 
competed with each other. We tested how much and when each banner was shown and 
we noticed that it appeared that the Privacy Policy banner was shown much more 
on the first page someone visited and actually repressed the WLM banner. Two 
banners at the same time causes a higher degree of banner blindness.

Compared with the 8 months January - August, the past two months where 
overloaded while the first 8 months were almost empty.


> but at least for major languages like Dutch, the intention
> is indeed to get them translated before they go live. As you said
> yourself on the De Kroeg, this banner was available in Dutch when it
> came live yesterday.

Another user on the Dutch Wikipedia who has his languages set in Dutch got the 
banner for FDC in English. I personally got it later in Dutch.



The reason why I wrote is not to blame anyone, but to promote thinking of other 
ways to communicate to the local communities. More notices aren't a good idea 
as this will result in more users fully blocking the CentralNotice or even 
whole wikis who block it. On the other hand since 2008 I try to promote more 
communication from both the chapters and WMF towards local communities, as I 
notice that many users - certainly on nl-wiki - aren't informed about many 
things of what it would be good to be informed about. This causes a lot of not 
understanding why things happen resulting in annoyance. I try to follow what is 
going on in the Wikimedia movement and take up the role as ambassador, both in 
tech as with other Wikimedia subjects, towards the community to create a better 
understanding. My attempts are appreciated by many users and are succ

[Wikimedia-l] Konkani Vishwakosh Under CC-BY-SA

[Nitika Tandon]

Dear All,

Konkani Vishwakosh is now freely available to download on Goa University's 
website under Creative Commons License CC-BY-SA 3.0. [1]

As many of you know CIS-A2K has been following up with the University for the 
past couple of months to re-relase the encyclopedia under CC. Upon CIS-A2K' 
explicit request, Goa University has approved the re-release to make it freely 
available to public and thus preserve Konkani language and culture in the 
digital era. 

This is a great achievement for the CIS-A2K Programme and we are extremely 
thankful to Dr. Satish Shetye (Vice-Chancellor, Goa University) for seeing the 
significance of growing open knowledge movement in Goa and Konkani. Thanks are 
due to the GU faculty, specifically Prof. Alito Sequeira; Prof. Madhavi 
Sardesai; Prof. Priyadarshini Tadkodkar; and Dr. Gopakumar. A special thanks 
goes to Wikipedians Harriet Vidyasagar, Frederick Noronha and Seby Fernandes 
for their constant support.

If anyone would like to receive a copy of the Vishwakosh please send us a mail 
off list and we'll courier a CD your way. 

Thanks
Nitika Tandon


[1] http://library.unigoa.ac.in/?q=node
[2]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Konkani_Vishwakosh_CC
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Overloaded with CentralNotices

[legoktm]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Konstantinos Stampoulis
>  wrote:
>
> > Echo can be a good alternative.
> > Imagine a new notification for every user, a "global notice" (not a talk
> > page message)
> > This can be sent to registered users, with its own icon, a notification
> > message with text simillar to what it would be included in a banner, and
> > linking to the relevant page (instead of own talk page etc).
> > So, every user will get it only once, but he can go back to it by clicking
> > the notifications icon.
> >
> > mockup: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echo-centralnotice.png
> >
>
> Yes, that could be a great idea, in particular when combined with some
> kind of topic-specific opt-in and opt-out.
>
> There has been quite a bit of thinking about technical solutions to
> this kind of problem, including hope that Echo and/or Flow could play
> a role in them. See e.g. the material at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Movement_broadcasting , in particular
> the linked Wikimania presentations from this year (by Andrew Gray) and
> last year (by myself).


I like this idea too. I've filed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56361 as an enhancement
request for Echo to enable this kind of functionality.
-- Legoktm

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Vishnu T]

Hello Jake,

This is fantastic for an Alpha sage! Have gone through the entire mission.
There was some problem in loading the next levels at certain stages and I
had to refresh the page couple of times. Would be nice if this could be
tested with a completely new set of users across geographies and age-groups
in Beta stage. I could help finding people from India.

Would like this to be finalized soon and try to customize it to the Indian
languages.

Great work!

Cheers,
Vishnu


On 29 October 2013 21:40, Strainu  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too
> long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps.
>
> The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets
> you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the
> messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not
> visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing
> for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able
> to move the box.
>
> I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure
> how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was
> put in the middle of the page (horizontally)
>
> Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of
> implementing it on other wikis?
>
> Thanks,
>   Strainu
>
> 2013/10/28 Katherine Casey :
> > Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am
> > experiencing them):
> >
> >- This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be!
> >- Instructions sometimes tell me to click "edit source" and sometimes
> to
> >click "edit", even though it always means that I should click "edit
> >source". Since the VE button says "edit", this is potentially pretty
> >confusing.
> >- At the end of missions, the button says "Congrats me!". That's
> pretty
> >jarring English - more natural would be either, "Congrats, me!" or
> >"Congrats to me!"
> >- The "select how you would reply to this person" challenges
> >are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think
> >they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out "hey, you
> >shouldn't be a rude jackass" as if it's someone's going to read those
> >options and go "yes! this is clearly how I should act!". More useful
> would
> >be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage
> with
> >some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is
> useful
> >to provide to other users.
> >- Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't
> >seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the
> results
> >of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in
> another)
> >- The "watchlist" module has instructions that are a little bit
> >confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc),
> but
> >then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the "top right". Since both
> >the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's
> likely
> >going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the
> star
> >you just explained, or the link you didn't.
> >- In general when you're telling people to "click X above", it might
> be
> >useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on
> something that
> >literally says that - tell them to *click "contributions" above
> *rather
> >than to *click contributions above*
> >- When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed
> >to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I
> couldn't
> >correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped
> out of
> >the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick
> back up
> >there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the
> instructions box,
> >or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what
> it
> >wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page
> with
> >its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I
> had
> >to click the X)
> >
> > In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through
> > (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that
> > need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get
> > through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure.
> >
> > -Fluffernutter
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive
> guided
> >> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a
> WMF
> >> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
> >> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
> >>
> >> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the ti