Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Nathan, 25/02/2014 01:57:

Was that done so that anyone who wanted to know precisely which post
contained sensitive info would simply need to compare lists of posts
between the "official" archive and the various services that publicly
archive the list?


No, it was done so that people know what links have been broken and need 
to be updated: only February, it seems, so hopefully almost nothing. 
pipermail however is very fragile, personally I recommend to never link 
it and prefer gmane whenever possible.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Gryllida]

Did that reflect on gmane?

On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, at 10:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under 
> request of a user who shared private information in February. Old links 
> are not broken and you can normally access the specific "volumes": 
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-February/thread.html
> 
> Nemo
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Nathan]

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Craig Franklin
wrote:

> Hear that sound?
>
> That's the sound of a million data miners working to figure out what juicy
> bit of info has been redacted.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
>
Found it: http://bit.ly/1fsZjVI
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Craig Franklin]

Hear that sound?

That's the sound of a million data miners working to figure out what juicy
bit of info has been redacted.

Cheers,
Craig

On 25 February 2014 09:48, Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:

> The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under request
> of a user who shared private information in February. Old links are not
> broken and you can normally access the specific "volumes":
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-February/thread.html
>
> Nemo
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Nathan]

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

> The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under request
> of a user who shared private information in February. Old links are not
> broken and you can normally access the specific "volumes":
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-February/thread.html
>
> Nemo
>
>
> _
>

Was that done so that anyone who wanted to know precisely which post
contained sensitive info would simply need to compare lists of posts
between the "official" archive and the various services that publicly
archive the list?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under 
request of a user who shared private information in February. Old links 
are not broken and you can normally access the specific "volumes": 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-February/thread.html


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Cornelius Kibelka]

Ah, thanks, James.

Best
Cornelius


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On 24 February 2014 21:36, James Alexander  wrote:

> Hi Cornelius,
>
> There is a bug about this at the moment, we're not completely sure what it
> is yet because the settings on the interface side appear correct. You can
> still see the archives at
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation however for now.
>
> James
>
> Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61792
>
>
>
> James Alexander
> Legal and Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Cornelius Kibelka  >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can't access the supposed-to-be-public archive of wikimedia-l anymore (
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/).
> >
> > What happened? Or I am doing anything wrong?
> >
> > Best
> > Cornelius
> >
> > 
> > Cornelius Kibelka
> >
> > Twitter: @jaancornelius
> > Mobile:+351-91-9860232 (Vodafone PT)
> > German number currently offline
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[James Alexander]

Hi Cornelius,

There is a bug about this at the moment, we're not completely sure what it
is yet because the settings on the interface side appear correct. You can
still see the archives at
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation however for now.

James

Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61792



James Alexander
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Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Cornelius Kibelka wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can't access the supposed-to-be-public archive of wikimedia-l anymore (
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/).
>
> What happened? Or I am doing anything wrong?
>
> Best
> Cornelius
>
> 
> Cornelius Kibelka
>
> Twitter: @jaancornelius
> Mobile:+351-91-9860232 (Vodafone PT)
> German number currently offline
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

[Cornelius Kibelka]

Hi,

I can't access the supposed-to-be-public archive of wikimedia-l anymore (
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/).

What happened? Or I am doing anything wrong?

Best
Cornelius


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[Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

[Galileo Vidoni]

Dear movement fellows,

Wikimedia Argentina would like to express its support for the letter by
Wikimedia Israel regarding URAA-motivated massive content deletions in
Wikimedia Commons. Yet, we would like to express our view not only to the
Foundation BoT but also to all Wikimedia editors, and especially to those
working in Wikimedia Commons.

Volunteers from Argentina have been among the most affected by the policy
adopted by Wikimedia Commons administrators regarding images that could
fall under URAA copyright provisions. Argentine copyright law provides that
images enter the public domain "only" 25 years after their production and
20 after their first documented publication. This relatively generous
criterion has enabled unaffiliated volunteers and we as Wikimedia Argentina
to enrich Commons with hundreds of thousands of historical images that are
absolutely free under Argentine law: images of the political and every day
life of the country, of its culture, of its popular idols, of its joyful
and dark days, of its customs and architecture.

However, over the last months certain Wikimedia Commons administrators have
conducted massive deletions of these contents, in many cases involving
entire categories. The burden of proof has been inverted: instead of having
to justify the deletion of a certain file, things go that volunteers have
to devout their time trying to justify the validity of their efforts. This
has caused great damage, not only by way of our readers loosing access to
free educational contents, but also de-motivating many editors and
volunteers by making them feel that their efforts are ultimately vain and
that our goal of free knowledge for everyone is being replaced by a certain
legal fetishism whose reason gets lost in processes and misses the outcome.

We acknowledge that the Wikimedia Foundation BoT and its Legal team have
repeatedly stated, as has been reinforced in recent communications, that
images shouldn't be deleted unless we receive a takedown notice, and that
it has not received a single URAA-motivated notice to date. Certain
Wikimedia Commons administrators have dismissed the Foundation's statement
as a mere opinion vis-à-vis the SCOTUS ruling. Yet, it is an opinion by the
organization that is legally responsible for the contents being hosted in
Wikimedia Commons.

We respectfully call the Wikimedia Commons community to reflect on the
practical consequences of its current policy on URAA's implementation.
Those files generating potential conflict could be even identified as such
without the need for a pre-emptive deletion. And we would like the Commons
community to reflect not only on the preventive loss of free contents we
are generating, but also on the harmful disconnection between Wikimedia
Commons and all of the other Wikimedia projects it serves as media
repository, mostly Wikipedia.

Many years ago, the editors of the Spanish Wikipedia decided to close the
possibility to directly host images, choosing instead to use Wikimedia
Commons. If we miss the opportunity to find a workaround that saves
hundreds of thousands of images from an unrequested deletion that hurts our
very mission, Wikipedia editors could ultimately evaluate reversing that
decision, reopening "project-hosted" uploads just to avoid the restrictive
and exclusionary URAA interpretation that Wikimedia Commons has been
sustaining against the Foundation's political and legal advice. That would
be far from being an optimal outcome.

We are sure that we as the broader community of Wikimedia volunteers can
find a common ground that permits to adapt to all legal conditions and
challenges while putting in the first place the fulfillment of our goal
towards free knowledge.

Approved by the Board of Wikimedia Argentina on February 22, 2014
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK is hiring a Technical Programme Manager

[Katherine Bavage]

Dear All,

I just want to bring this post to the attention of the list, advertised
today.

https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Technical_Programme_Manager

The deadline for applications is Friday 7th March at 17:00. You can get in
touch for a chat about the post if you have questions. Please do forward
this email to any parties you think may be interested.

It will be possible for the successful candidate to work remotely, and
therefore they do not necessarily have to be based in the UK.

Thank you!

*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0752

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Dennis Pierri]

May he rest in peace

Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2014, at 06:56, Craig Franklin  wrote:

> Awful, awful news.  My condolences to his family, friends, and the WMUA
> community =(.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 February 2014 09:01, Maryana Pinchuk  wrote:
> 
>> For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of
>> the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian and such a
>> bright young member of the Wikimedia movement :(
>> 
>> * * *
>> 
>> "Wikipedian Igor Kostenko dies on the Maidan.
>> 
>> February 20, 2014, during the protests in Kiev, Igor Kostenko – an active
>> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, journalist and geography student –
>> died tragically.
>> 
>> Igor Kostenko was born December 31, 1991, in the village of Zubrets in the
>> Buchach region of Ternopil. After graduating from high school, he attended
>> Ivan Franko University in Lviv, where he was in his fifth year of study in
>> the department of geography, majoring in Organizational Management. In
>> addition to his studies, he worked as a journalist for the publication
>> "Sports Analysis."
>> 
>> Igor was an active contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, writing under
>> the username Ig2000.[1] Igor registered an account on July 23, 2011, and in
>> just that month began writing his first articles. In two and a half years,
>> he wrote over 280 articles and made over 1,600 edits. He had a wide range
>> of encyclopedic interests – he wrote articles on sports topics (soccer,
>> Formula One), geography, economics, and the history of the Ukrainian
>> military. His article on the Nezamozhnyk destroyer of the Ukrainian and
>> Soviet fleet in the first half of the 20th century[2] was acknowledged for
>> its quality by the community and achieved the status of "Good article."
>> Additionally, he contributed many updates on sports events to Wikinews.
>> 
>> Igor was also active in promoting Ukrainian Wikipedia on social media,
>> through which he sought to gain more contributors. He was an administrator
>> of the Ukrainian Wikipedians Facebook page,[3] where he regularly posted
>> interesting facts from Wikipedia. In August 2013 he proposed hosting a Wiki
>> Flashmob – inviting a large group of Ukrainians to participate in a day of
>> article-writing on Wikipedia. The Wiki Flashmob was planned for January 20,
>> 2014, the 10-year anniversary of Ukrainian Wikipedia, but due to the tragic
>> events in the country, the event was cancelled. Igor believed that the
>> flashmob would help fill Wikipedia with thousands of new articles in the
>> course of a day and proposed a strategy to realize his dream, but
>> unfortunately, he did not live to see it become a reality.
>> 
>> On February 18, 2014, along with other students from Lviv, Igor came to
>> Kiev to the Euromaidan, because he wanted Ukraine to be led by people with
>> a patriotic spirit. On February 20th, during a protest on Instytutskaya
>> Street, Igor died tragically: he bravely went ahead with a shield, but he
>> was shot by two bullets, one of which struck him in the head...
>> 
>> Today, February 23, Igor was buried in his home town of Buchach. Thousands
>> of people accompanied him on his final journey – both students from Lviv
>> and residents of Ternopil.
>> 
>> In honor of Igor and the tens of others who died on the Euromaidan,[4] on
>> February 21, the community decided to modify the logo of the Ukrainian
>> Wikipedia with a black ribbon as a symbol of mourning.
>> 
>> The editors of Ukrainian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Ukraine offer their
>> condolences to the friends and family of Igor Kostenko. A page has been
>> created on Wikipedia where you can leave your condolences.[5]
>> 
>> Memory eternal..."
>> 
>> 1.
>> 
>> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:Ig2000
>> 2.
>> 
>> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_(%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C)
>> 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukwiki/
>> 4.
>> 
>> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83
>> 5.
>> 
>> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0:Ig2000/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%27%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8C
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
>> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>> 
>>> Big sigh.
>>> 
>>> According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor
>>> Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/
>>> 
>>> You can express condolences here:
>>> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Craig Franklin]

Awful, awful news.  My condolences to his family, friends, and the WMUA
community =(.




On 24 February 2014 09:01, Maryana Pinchuk  wrote:

> For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of
> the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian and such a
> bright young member of the Wikimedia movement :(
>
> * * *
>
> "Wikipedian Igor Kostenko dies on the Maidan.
>
> February 20, 2014, during the protests in Kiev, Igor Kostenko – an active
> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, journalist and geography student –
> died tragically.
>
> Igor Kostenko was born December 31, 1991, in the village of Zubrets in the
> Buchach region of Ternopil. After graduating from high school, he attended
> Ivan Franko University in Lviv, where he was in his fifth year of study in
> the department of geography, majoring in Organizational Management. In
> addition to his studies, he worked as a journalist for the publication
> "Sports Analysis."
>
> Igor was an active contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, writing under
> the username Ig2000.[1] Igor registered an account on July 23, 2011, and in
> just that month began writing his first articles. In two and a half years,
> he wrote over 280 articles and made over 1,600 edits. He had a wide range
> of encyclopedic interests – he wrote articles on sports topics (soccer,
> Formula One), geography, economics, and the history of the Ukrainian
> military. His article on the Nezamozhnyk destroyer of the Ukrainian and
> Soviet fleet in the first half of the 20th century[2] was acknowledged for
> its quality by the community and achieved the status of "Good article."
> Additionally, he contributed many updates on sports events to Wikinews.
>
> Igor was also active in promoting Ukrainian Wikipedia on social media,
> through which he sought to gain more contributors. He was an administrator
> of the Ukrainian Wikipedians Facebook page,[3] where he regularly posted
> interesting facts from Wikipedia. In August 2013 he proposed hosting a Wiki
> Flashmob – inviting a large group of Ukrainians to participate in a day of
> article-writing on Wikipedia. The Wiki Flashmob was planned for January 20,
> 2014, the 10-year anniversary of Ukrainian Wikipedia, but due to the tragic
> events in the country, the event was cancelled. Igor believed that the
> flashmob would help fill Wikipedia with thousands of new articles in the
> course of a day and proposed a strategy to realize his dream, but
> unfortunately, he did not live to see it become a reality.
>
> On February 18, 2014, along with other students from Lviv, Igor came to
> Kiev to the Euromaidan, because he wanted Ukraine to be led by people with
> a patriotic spirit. On February 20th, during a protest on Instytutskaya
> Street, Igor died tragically: he bravely went ahead with a shield, but he
> was shot by two bullets, one of which struck him in the head...
>
> Today, February 23, Igor was buried in his home town of Buchach. Thousands
> of people accompanied him on his final journey – both students from Lviv
> and residents of Ternopil.
>
> In honor of Igor and the tens of others who died on the Euromaidan,[4] on
> February 21, the community decided to modify the logo of the Ukrainian
> Wikipedia with a black ribbon as a symbol of mourning.
>
> The editors of Ukrainian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Ukraine offer their
> condolences to the friends and family of Igor Kostenko. A page has been
> created on Wikipedia where you can leave your condolences.[5]
>
> Memory eternal..."
>
> 1.
>
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:Ig2000
> 2.
>
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_(%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C)
> 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukwiki/
> 4.
>
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83
> 5.
>
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0:Ig2000/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%27%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8C
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > Big sigh.
> >
> > According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor
> > Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991.
> >
> >
> >
> http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/
> >
> > You can express condolences here:
> > https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять
> >
> >
> > --
> > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> > http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> > ‪“We're living in pieces,
> > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
> >
> >
> > 2014-02-20 17:25 GMT+04:00 Tomasz W. Kozlowski :
> >
> > > The BBC repor