Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
[copy of my reply on the original list] I've considered it; and decided not to. For one thing, when a new user sees a diff, either via a link on a talk page, an article's history, a user's contributions, or their own watchlist they are exposed to Wikicode, and so need a basic understanding of how it works. On 30 July 2015 at 13:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
On 30 July 2015 at 14:43, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From right to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) It's pretty successful. Yes, I recall a blog post explaining bidirectional and mixed-script issues, and that basically VE would have to become the first mixed-script editor to be any good at all at handling this stuff :-) So, how usable is it for you mixing up RTL and LTR? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
Hoi, was happy to learn that we made progress. Now I learn that there is always another rationalisation why it is not good enough for me and for newbies. I am past the phase of it is not good enough for me and I stopped editing Wikipedia. Just a thought to reconsider assumptions. Thanks, GerardM On 30 July 2015 at 15:09, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: [copy of my reply on the original list] I've considered it; and decided not to. For one thing, when a new user sees a diff, either via a link on a talk page, an article's history, a user's contributions, or their own watchlist they are exposed to Wikicode, and so need a basic understanding of how it works. On 30 July 2015 at 13:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
-- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
Yes, I recall a blog post explaining bidirectional and mixed-script issues, and that basically VE would have to become the first mixed-script editor to be any good at all at handling this stuff :-) So, how usable is it for you mixing up RTL and LTR? Until summer 2013 it was totally unusable in right-to-left languages. In left-to-right languages it was very buggy, but usable. These days it's totally usable in right-to-left. Very roughly, the average is about 250 edits out of 2500 in the main space every day. (Did I say that these are super-rough numbers? Maybe Moriel or James have something better.) There are some bugs in RTL support, but they are all minor. Largely, it's as usable now as in left-to-right. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2015-07-30 16:48 GMT+03:00 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 30 July 2015 at 14:43, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From right to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) It's pretty successful. Yes, I recall a blog post explaining bidirectional and mixed-script issues, and that basically VE would have to become the first mixed-script editor to be any good at all at handling this stuff :-) So, how usable is it for you mixing up RTL and LTR? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
We (in Amical) always try to teach editing using the visual editor, it's much easier for newbies, especially for older (+40) people or non-techies. Obviously we also mention that other tab which leads to some weird code but we almost never dig into it, it's not necessary for them to know wikicode in order to successfully contribute to wikipedia. Everything is easier with VE. *Arnau Duran Ferrero* www.arnauduran.net [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/arnauduran [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/arnauduran [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/in/arnauduran 2015-07-30 15:51 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, was happy to learn that we made progress. Now I learn that there is always another rationalisation why it is not good enough for me and for newbies. I am past the phase of it is not good enough for me and I stopped editing Wikipedia. Just a thought to reconsider assumptions. Thanks, GerardM On 30 July 2015 at 15:09, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: [copy of my reply on the original list] I've considered it; and decided not to. For one thing, when a new user sees a diff, either via a link on a talk page, an article's history, a user's contributions, or their own watchlist they are exposed to Wikicode, and so need a basic understanding of how it works. On 30 July 2015 at 13:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
Hello Same experience in France: workshops/editathons are VE oriented, because VE is easier to grasp. We also introduce wikitext, but without details. We have experienced withshops with only wikitext or both technologies, but they were less successful than VE-only workshops (people are afraid of code/syntax and the more you say it is easy, the more they doubt of it :)). Benoît Evellin Wikimédia France volunteer Rennes' local group www.wikimedia.fr/rennes 2015-07-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Arnau Duran arnaudu...@gmail.com: We (in Amical) always try to teach editing using the visual editor, it's much easier for newbies, especially for older (+40) people or non-techies. Obviously we also mention that other tab which leads to some weird code but we almost never dig into it, it's not necessary for them to know wikicode in order to successfully contribute to wikipedia. Everything is easier with VE. *Arnau Duran Ferrero* www.arnauduran.net [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/arnauduran [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/arnauduran [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/in/arnauduran 2015-07-30 15:51 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, was happy to learn that we made progress. Now I learn that there is always another rationalisation why it is not good enough for me and for newbies. I am past the phase of it is not good enough for me and I stopped editing Wikipedia. Just a thought to reconsider assumptions. Thanks, GerardM On 30 July 2015 at 15:09, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: [copy of my reply on the original list] I've considered it; and decided not to. For one thing, when a new user sees a diff, either via a link on a talk page, an article's history, a user's contributions, or their own watchlist they are exposed to Wikicode, and so need a basic understanding of how it works. On 30 July 2015 at 13:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?
I would be interested to see the example of Flickr2Commons-uploaded images which marked license as CCLv3. AFAIK, all images I had to review had proper CCLv2 template, or it was... (one of the below) - Copyvio - Human error (mistake of user) - It was licensed under NC or ND in fact. I haven't been much active as I used to be in Commons this year, so bot code may have been changed. Yet bot shouldn't do that stupid thing (marking v2 stuff as v3). -- Revi - commons admin hat here. https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 7. 30. 오전 2:33에 Lilburne lilbu...@tygers-of-wrath.net님이 작성: On 29/07/2015 09:01, Petr Kadlec wrote: Really? Neither the word instititution nor third party [website] appear in the text of the CC license, so on what exactly do you base this very specific distinction just so narrowly fitting our behavior (no image attribution within articles, only on the image description page reachable upon clicking on the image), while not fitting anyone else doing exactly the same? The license requires only that the credit be implemented in any reasonable manner. [Also note that the _text_ of our projects, while also licensed under CC-BY-SA, is licensed in way that explicitly states that a sufficient attribution is [t]hrough hyperlink (where possible) or URL to the page or pages that you are re-using (since each page has a history page that lists all authors and editors).] Many of the images on Commons are from flickr which is CC 2.0 licenses. Not 2.5, 3.0, or 4.0 and there is no automatic upgrade from an older to newer version. The CC 2.0 licenses do not say that a hyperlink is sufficient that is a v4.0 license. Many photographers are not making CC content available under 4.0 licenses as a result. So you have a problem in that much of your image content is licensed 2.0. Those running flickr2Commons upload bots are violating the license by upgrading it to v3.0 unless they are creating derivatives. None of the pre 4.0 licenses say that a hyperelink is sufficient for attribution. They all say that: You must keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and give the Original Author credit reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing by conveying the name (or pseudonym if applicable) of the Original Author if supplied; the title of the Work if supplied; to the extent reasonably practicable, the Uniform Resource Identifier, if any, that Licensor specifies to be associated with the Work, unless such URI does not refer to the copyright notice or licensing information for the Work ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation report, April-June 2015
Hi all, please find the Wikimedia Foundation's report for the fourth quarter of the past fiscal year at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Quarterly_Report,_FY_2014-15_Q4_(April-June).pdf . Quoting below the foreword by Terry: We are pleased to bring you the Wikimedia Foundation’s Quarterly Report for Q4 of the 2014/15 fiscal year. This is the third report since we switched from a monthly cycle, to align with our quarterly goal setting process. We are continuing to optimize the report’s format and the organization’s quarterly review process that the report is based on, to bring you better information at a lower overhead for the teams that take out time from their work to tell you how they have been doing. Participation in the review process is good and growing. This issue includes some new pieces of information, e.g. the approximate size of each team (in FTE, on average during this quarter), and for each objective, the number of team members who were involved with a significant amount of their time. The overall metrics scorecard now contains new, more reliable uptime numbers for both readers and contributors. As before, we are including an overview slide summarizing successes and misses across all teams. In a mature 90 day goal setting process, the “sweet spot” is for about 75% of goals to be a success. Organizations that are meeting 100% of their goals are not typically setting aggressive goals. Terry Gilbey, Chief Operating Officer -- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF July 2015 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, August 6, 18:00 UTC
Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net, and the meeting will be broadcast as a live YouTube stream. Each month at the metrics meeting, we will: * Welcome recent hires * Present a community update * Review WMF top-level metrics * Present reports/updates For August, we'll present a quarterly report overview review VisualEditor AB test and usability results * Engage in questions/discussions Please review https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for further information about how to participate. We’ll post the video recording publicly after the meeting. Thank you, Praveena -- Praveena Maharaj Executive Assistant Wikimedia Foundation \\ www.wikimediafoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Shared learning in our progress report
Dear Wikimedia friends and partners, We have just published our FDC progress report for the first half of 2015. It’s a quite lengthy document, so I would like to highlight some shared learning for the Free Knowledge movement that we present in this report. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Progress_report_form We have published several learning patterns and material, for example on participation in post-conference surveys, crowd-funding campaign, recording audio samples, relationships with donors, and sharing information with the movement: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Progress_report_form#Sharing_of_Learnings The grant report for the Wikimedia Conference 2015 includes a lot of lessons learnt that can also be applied to other movement events: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Feedback_evaluation The committee that was tasked with the transition of our Executive Director reported on their process and provides advice for similar processes in other organisations, no matter if big or small: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Transition_Team/Executive_transition_report Our annual compass 2016 provides WMDE with vision and direction for the upcoming planning process and lists new volunteers, software development and public policy as the three priorities for our work in 2016: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/PP16/Kompass/en If you have questions or feedback, please do not hesitate to reach out to us. You can either engage via the respective talk pages or directly with the contact persons involved. If you are not sure whom to best reach out to, get in touch with me and I will connect you. Nicole -- Nicole Ebber Vorstandsreferentin Internationale Beziehungen Adviser to the ED, International Relations Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons
Strongly seconded. This makes copyedits and typo correction - the first step of editing - 15 seconds rather than 150. (It could be much faster still if the edit summary process weren't so elaborate :) just let anyone doubleclick to edit a single word, and autosave it as a minor edit without asking...) The joy of seeing citations autocomplete is immediate and lasting. In my experience, the main problem with using VE for everything is still the inability to sign talk page comments! That's very confusing even for me when I have to switch b/t editors. SJ (helping run another editathon for chemists at the upcoming American Chemical Society's 250th anniversary :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston/American_Chemical_Society_Wikipedia_Edit-a-thon:_Notable_Chemists_and_Chemistry On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:00 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Date: 30 July 2015 at 12:57 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons To: If anyone is still running outreach editathons to try and recruit new editors, you might want to consider using visual editor. I spoke to some of the WMF people at Wikimania and apparently the issue of it running very very slowly on old kit has recently been largely addressed. I've pointed out in the past that as long as that bug was a won't fix you couldn't promote Visual Editor at outreach editathons because even if all the laptops look pretty new, there could well be someone present using a borrowed laptop and intending to use an old PC at home. Since we really can't start an editathon asking the attendees if they all use new computers at home, and then reverting to the classic editor if someone says their machine was bought in 2010 I and several others have been ignoring the Visual Editor for the last couple of years. I have just run a quick test on this myself using a friend's old PC and V/E does now work, though it is still a little slower than the classic editor. Regards Jonathan / WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
