Re: [Wikimedia-l] Media handling is difficult

2015-08-01 Thread
With regard to uploads from mobiles, there have been several positive
discussions on the Commons village pump when mobile applications
encouraged uploads.[1]

It is still the case that the significant majority of images uploaded
from mobile platforms have to be deleted as either out of scope (like
bad blurry selfies) or obvious copyright violations. We even have some
bot-categorization of deletions quietly going on to keep a running
track of it, and several past experiments to find ways of managing
copyvios automatically, shortly after they appear in recent
uploads.[2]

As tablets with good cameras and more sophisticated mobiles are used
to do more stuff on Wikimedia projects, the trend is improving, but
the design challenge remains that mobile apps to which make upload
easier need to also encourage upload 'qualification' to reduce the
burden on volunteer administrators to do endless housekeeping, and
mobile users need coaching/coaxing to consider copyright and
educational value before launching their selfies and lolcats on
Commons. :-)

Links:
1. Sample past VP discussion:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2013/04#Mobile_Web_Uploads_turned_off_in_stable,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2013/04#Proposed_.27rule_of_thumb.27_for_deletion_of_mobile-appweb_sourced_images
2. 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MobileUpload-related_deletion_requests

Fae

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-08-01 Thread Martin Kraft

Am 31.07.2015 um 19:34 schrieb rupert THURNER:

independent of this case, is there a technical possibility to put amateur
reusers in future on a safe ground.


The only foolproof licence is CC0, which gives away all rights to the 
user and keeps almost nothing for the author himself. But CC0 neither is 
a CopyLeft licence that perpetually secures the freedom of this content 
(Everybody can take CC0 staff and publish it in a proprietary way wit no 
attribution what-so-ever), nor is it a good argument to convince 
professional or semi-professional contributors to publish there quality 
work under. Hence CC0 is more a problem than a solution.


Beside that, I don't think that it is our prior duty to offer save 
ground to any kind of reusers. A lot of licence violators honestly 
don't give a shit about free content. They just don't care about 
copyrights and have no respect to the author, who created the stuff they 
are using in the first place. I definitely don't want to support that.




By automatically adding author and license info into the metadata of
the image. If this is not enough attribution we should strive to have
this kind of attribution accepted in a future version cc license.


An attribution only inside the metadata is not compatible with the 
licence's requirements, mainly because it can't be read in every browser 
without any add-ons and digital forensic skills.


The CC-licences require the attributions to be at least as prominent as 
the credits for the other contributing author.


Furthermore a lot of CMS remove such metadata automatically while 
scaling and recompressing images.




Without the need of education.


Education is the only promising approach to prohibit license and 
copyright violations.


We need to teach people, that our content is not free as in free 
beer but free as in freedom and that freedom comes with 
responsibility. Namely the responsibility to give reasonable credit to 
the author of the work (you want to use) and reference the license (that 
allows you to use it).


It is neither possible nor desirable to take that responsibility from 
the users.



// Martin


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