Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

[Jytdog at Wikipedia]

Thanks for this Jacob.

Would you please address Legal's approach to the following scenario:  a
company advertises Wikipedia editing services for clients, and there is no
disclosure of paid editing by an editor employed by or affiliated with the
company on Wikipedia.   (In other words, a company is obviously not
following the Terms of Use).

In my view, this is a situation where I would think that Legal should start
a discussion with that company, and if those discussions fail to yield a
change in behavior, Legal should then make a public statement indicating
this, perhaps on the page you recently posted under a section entitled
something like: "Companies that advertise Wikipedia editing services that
have no disclosures on Wikipedia".  If a company starts to disclose then of
course the listing could be modified.

This is something that editors ~could~ do, but as the ToU are issued by the
WMF, it would seem more appropriate for WMF to do.

But I am interested to hear Legal's perspective.

Thanks

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Jacob Rogers  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As I mentioned in my email earlier this month, we've put together a longer
> statement regarding paid editing and how we see the balance of the
> communities' role and the role that WMF legal can play in these cases. We
> tried to address the concerns that people have raised to us, and explain
> when it's helpful to contact us to assist on a case. Of note, it does
> explain what actions we can take even in cases that don't involve the WMF
> trademarks.
>
> You can find it here: Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and
> outing
>  Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing>
>
> Best,
> Jacob
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

[James Heilman]

Jacob and the rest of the legal team.

Many thanks for your clarifications on the "private information" versus
"off Wikipedia information" issue.

Also it is excellent to see your willingness to adjudicate on especially
controversial cases.

Best
James

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Jacob Rogers  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As I mentioned in my email earlier this month, we've put together a longer
> statement regarding paid editing and how we see the balance of the
> communities' role and the role that WMF legal can play in these cases. We
> tried to address the concerns that people have raised to us, and explain
> when it's helpful to contact us to assist on a case. Of note, it does
> explain what actions we can take even in cases that don't involve the WMF
> trademarks.
>
> You can find it here: Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and
> outing
>  Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing>
>
> Best,
> Jacob
> --
>
> Jacob Rogers
> Legal Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

[Jacob Rogers]

Hi all,

As I mentioned in my email earlier this month, we've put together a longer
statement regarding paid editing and how we see the balance of the
communities' role and the role that WMF legal can play in these cases. We
tried to address the concerns that people have raised to us, and explain
when it's helpful to contact us to assist on a case. Of note, it does
explain what actions we can take even in cases that don't involve the WMF
trademarks.

You can find it here: Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and
outing


Best,
Jacob
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Legal Counsel
Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Conference Grants application deadlines

[Gnangarra]

This is nice idea to make it easier for WMF and those deciding but waiting
three months to apply for funding assistance is going to put pressure on
volunteers and see a lot of funds lost due to necessity of make bookings,
paying deposits without knowing if the funding will be there.

On 18 January 2017 at 18:46, Kacie Harold  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> As part of our ongoing improvements to the new grants structure, the
> Conference Grants program will be accepting proposals three times a year.
>
> We hope that moving to rounds will ensure a more efficient and predictable
> process for grant applicants, WMF staff, and grant committee members.
>
> We are currently accepting proposals for Round 1 and the submission
> deadline is February 26th. Decisions will be announced March 24th and
> grants disbursed in April. The deadline for Round 2 is May 28th. You can
> see the schedule for all rounds here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference
>
> If you plan on holding a conference in the first 6 months of 2017, please
> apply in Round 1!
>
> If you are thinking about organizing a conference and need funding from
> WMF, please reach out to me as soon as possible to discuss your ideas.
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions.
>
> Best,
>
> Kacie
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing Conference Grants application deadlines

[Kacie Harold]

Hello!

As part of our ongoing improvements to the new grants structure, the
Conference Grants program will be accepting proposals three times a year.

We hope that moving to rounds will ensure a more efficient and predictable
process for grant applicants, WMF staff, and grant committee members.

We are currently accepting proposals for Round 1 and the submission
deadline is February 26th. Decisions will be announced March 24th and
grants disbursed in April. The deadline for Round 2 is May 28th. You can
see the schedule for all rounds here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference

If you plan on holding a conference in the first 6 months of 2017, please
apply in Round 1!

If you are thinking about organizing a conference and need funding from
WMF, please reach out to me as soon as possible to discuss your ideas.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Best,

Kacie
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