[Wikimedia-l] WikiConference North America - Proposals and Scholarship Apps Due!

[Kevin Payravi]

To North American Wikimedians and others potentially attending,

Friendly reminder that proposal submissions and scholarship applications
for WikiConference North America 2018 are due tomorrow, August 15!

WikiConference North America is taking place in Columbus, Ohio, U.S., from
October 18-21. Our host is the Ohio State University Libraries, which
provides a great opportunity to work with local libraries and cultural
institutions.

Thursday consists of our hackathon, Wikidata activities, and more to come.
Friday will be our Culture Crawl and intro reception, which take place in
various cultural institutions in downtown Columbus. Saturday and Sunday
will be our conventional programming days made up of content contributed by
you, the community.

Scholarship applications are open to Wikimedians who live in North America
and actively contribute to a Wikimedia project. Scholarship awards are $500
USD. The Wiki Education Foundation is also providing their own scholarships
for presenters participating in the academic peer review option.
https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2018/Scholarships


For submissions, we are looking forward to seeing proposals for
presentations, workshops, roundtables, panels, and more. We also have an
academic peer review track this year. Don't be afraid to submit your idea -
the conference is a great, welcoming opportunity to present on your
projects, local activities, research, or anything else you are passionate
about.
https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2018/Submissions

We have also started working on an Accommodations guide, so you can begin
to plan for the event:
https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2018/Accommodation

Thank you,
Kevin Payravi
SuperHamster on Wikimedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Isarra Yos]

Sorry, I apparently replied to the wrong mailing list.

On 14/08/18 18:19, Isarra Yos wrote:
As a total random, I'd also like to second this - as much as I think 
the CoC and the committee in particular have room to improve in how 
things are handled, this will never happen without proper support for 
the work they're doing in the first place.


While some of us have been somewhat flabbergasted by specific events, 
these are after all the people we need to be working with to actually 
resolve the issues at hand, and indeed the events (and handling 
thereof) themselves have also highlighted the need for more clearer 
standards moving forward. I'm glad to see some steps have already been 
taken. Let's continue in this vein.


Thank you!

-I

On 14/08/18 18:08, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:

Hey,
As a member of Code of conduct committee I just wanted to express how 
much

I appreciate your statement. The work we are doing is not fun, we are
dealing with frustrations, harassments, trolling, and all sorts of 
the dark

side of the Wikimedia movement but I genuinely believe that this type of
work is vital to keep the movement moving forward, to make us more
welcoming and foster a diverse environment.

All of the support I've received, private and public, online and 
offline is

overwhelming. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Best
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:46 PM Victoria Coleman 


wrote:


Hello everyone,

The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would 
like to
issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] 
and the
community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the 
development

and implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy
functioning of our technical communities and spaces. The Code of 
Conduct
was created to address obstacles and occasionally very problematic 
personal
communications that limit participation and cause real harm to 
community
members and staff. In engaging in this work we are setting the tone 
for the
ways we collaborate in tech. We are saying that treating others 
badly is
not welcome in our communities. And we are joining an important 
movement in

the tech industry to address these problems in a way that supports
self-governance consistent with our values.

This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our 
projects
and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the 
critical

vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and
forever.

Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and 
Victoria



https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct <
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct>




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Isarra Yos]

As a total random, I'd also like to second this - as much as I think the 
CoC and the committee in particular have room to improve in how things 
are handled, this will never happen without proper support for the work 
they're doing in the first place.


While some of us have been somewhat flabbergasted by specific events, 
these are after all the people we need to be working with to actually 
resolve the issues at hand, and indeed the events (and handling thereof) 
themselves have also highlighted the need for more clearer standards 
moving forward. I'm glad to see some steps have already been taken. 
Let's continue in this vein.


Thank you!

-I

On 14/08/18 18:08, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:

Hey,
As a member of Code of conduct committee I just wanted to express how much
I appreciate your statement. The work we are doing is not fun, we are
dealing with frustrations, harassments, trolling, and all sorts of the dark
side of the Wikimedia movement but I genuinely believe that this type of
work is vital to keep the movement moving forward, to make us more
welcoming and foster a diverse environment.

All of the support I've received, private and public, online and offline is
overwhelming. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Best
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:46 PM Victoria Coleman 
wrote:


Hello everyone,

The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to
issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the
community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development
and implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy
functioning of our technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct
was created to address obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal
communications that limit participation and cause real harm to community
members and staff. In engaging in this work we are setting the tone for the
ways we collaborate in tech. We are saying that treating others badly is
not welcome in our communities. And we are joining an important movement in
the tech industry to address these problems in a way that supports
self-governance consistent with our values.

This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects
and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical
vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and
forever.

Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct <
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct>




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Dennis During]

I don't see how a ringing endorsement of principles is responsive to
specific issues that have been raised.  If this email has any meaning at
all, it seems to mean that no change whatsoever is thought necessary by the
folks who would have to change.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 13:46 Victoria Coleman  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to
> issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the
> community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development
> and implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy
> functioning of our technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct
> was created to address obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal
> communications that limit participation and cause real harm to community
> members and staff. In engaging in this work we are setting the tone for the
> ways we collaborate in tech. We are saying that treating others badly is
> not welcome in our communities. And we are joining an important movement in
> the tech industry to address these problems in a way that supports
> self-governance consistent with our values.
>
> This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects
> and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical
> vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and
> forever.
>
> Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Pine W]

James, let's stay on topic, please. If you want to talk about other issues
then please start a new thread.

Victoria, I have mixed feelings about this statement.

I agree that we want to have civility in technical spaces, and a technical
code of conduct is one important way of working toward that goal. I also
agree that having ways to resolve disputes and deal with problematic
behavior is important.

On the other hand, I think several aspects of your statement are less than
ideal.

* This situation is being discussed civilly in a single thread on
Wikitech-l, and I see no reason to start a new thread.

* You added Wikimedia-l to this discussion, and Wikimedia-l is outside of
the scope of the TCoC. I think that adding Wikimedia-l to the discussion is
an unnecessary escalation. Please refrain from unnecessary escalations.

* While the opinions of the WMF executives are somewhat influential, my
understanding is that WMF wants the Technical Code of Conduct and the
committee that enforces it to have political legitimacy in the community.
Involvement of the WMF C-levels works against that. I think that you should
let the participants in the discussion (which I feel is now generally tense
but constructive) work out this situation among themselves / ourselves
without the intervention of WMF executives. Although there are situations
in which the intervention of WMF executives would be helpful, I think that
this isn't one of them.

* The statement that you made comes across to me as endorsing the status
quo. I am not sure that this was your intent. I feel that adjustments to
policies and practices should be considered, partially based on the
constructive portions of the discussions that are happening on Wikitech-l.

I agree that the TCoC Committee has a difficult job when the try to do it
well, and I support the goal of having civility in technical spaces. I
think that it would be possible, and appropriate, to express support for
good-faith efforts of the Committee's members and those participating in
the discussion in Wikitech-l, and for the goals of the CoC, without
unnecessary escalation or intervention from WMF executives that may make a
difficult situation more challenging. Sometimes less involvement is the
better way to achieve one's goals.

Thank you for listening,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Amir Ladsgroup]

Hey,
As a member of Code of conduct committee I just wanted to express how much
I appreciate your statement. The work we are doing is not fun, we are
dealing with frustrations, harassments, trolling, and all sorts of the dark
side of the Wikimedia movement but I genuinely believe that this type of
work is vital to keep the movement moving forward, to make us more
welcoming and foster a diverse environment.

All of the support I've received, private and public, online and offline is
overwhelming. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Best
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:46 PM Victoria Coleman 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to
> issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the
> community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development
> and implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy
> functioning of our technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct
> was created to address obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal
> communications that limit participation and cause real harm to community
> members and staff. In engaging in this work we are setting the tone for the
> ways we collaborate in tech. We are saying that treating others badly is
> not welcome in our communities. And we are joining an important movement in
> the tech industry to address these problems in a way that supports
> self-governance consistent with our values.
>
> This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects
> and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical
> vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and
> forever.
>
> Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[James Salsman]

Victoria,

Does the restriction on "Disclosure of a person's identity or other
private information without their consent" forbid the Foundation from
sharing the geolocation and IP addresses of editors with researchers
under NDA or law enforcement officials claiming to have, e.g., an
Interpol subpoena?

Sincerely,
Jim Salsman

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Victoria Coleman
 wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to 
> issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the 
> community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development and 
> implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy functioning of 
> our technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct was created to 
> address obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal communications 
> that limit participation and cause real harm to community members and staff. 
> In engaging in this work we are setting the tone for the ways we collaborate 
> in tech. We are saying that treating others badly is not welcome in our 
> communities. And we are joining an important movement in the tech industry to 
> address these problems in a way that supports self-governance consistent with 
> our values.
>
> This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects 
> and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical 
> vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and 
> forever.
>
> Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct 
> 
>
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

[Victoria Coleman]

Hello everyone,

The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to issue 
a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the 
community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development and 
implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy functioning of our 
technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct was created to address 
obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal communications that limit 
participation and cause real harm to community members and staff. In engaging 
in this work we are setting the tone for the ways we collaborate in tech. We 
are saying that treating others badly is not welcome in our communities. And we 
are joining an important movement in the tech industry to address these 
problems in a way that supports self-governance consistent with our values.

This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects and 
ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical vision of 
being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and forever.

Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct 





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

[Pharos]

I don't have technical expertise in this area, but I do think something
chat-like has the most chance of success.

Telegram seems to be the most active platform now among non-technical
users, especially used during conferences.

Perhaps a much better integration with IRC (with a Slack-like interface
tied to SUL) might provide a good path forward, though I imagine it would
require significant  investment.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> Hi Sylvain!
>
> (Let me add the disclaimer that opinions are mine and don't represent the
> views of the Foundation.)
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM Sylvain Boissel <
> sylvain.bois...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It may have changed since I last checked (a bit more than a year ago),
> but
> > while it is easy to create an instance, migrating an account to another
> > instance, or moving an entire instance to a new domain is not (I couldn't
> > even find documentation on how to accomplish this. So if we start an
> > instance that is supposed to become an official one, we need at the very
> > least have the final domain name from the start. Depending on the one we
> > want, we still might need official support (e.g., anyone can register
> > wikimedians.social, but wikimedia.social is restricted to the WMF by a
> DPML
> > Block.)
> >
>
> This is a good point. Renaming Mastodon instances continues to be a pain --
> see https://discourse.joinmastodon.org/t/domain-changes-and-aliases/671
>
> This is a good reason to bet on a domain for the long run. However, let's
> not mix two different concepts: use of Wikimedia trademarks and official
> technical support (servers, maintenance). If the promoters of this
> initiative decide to propose a domain that use a Wikimedia trademark, they
> can request an authorization via
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.
>
> > * Legal: Aiming for an official Wikimedia instance has implications of
> > > trademarks, legal requirements, and so on. While there is no need to
> > start
> > > with an official instance, it is useful to consider the scenario early
> > on.
> > >
> > Do you know what these requirements are? Are some issues unsolvable (for
> > example, if an official Wikimedia instance implies that no movie-based
> gifs
> > can be posted (for copyright reasons), then this instance has basically
> no
> > chance to gain a large user base. While this may not be a problem (a
> small
> > instance with a small number of accounts posting things like
> > #pictureOfTheDay to the whole Fediverse would still be valuable), this
> > would change the scope of what we try to accomplish.
> >
>
> Honestly, no idea. I am just applying the basic reasoning that the
> requirements and potential risks for content and user data will be more
> complex for the Wikimedia Foundation maintaining a service officially than
> for a group of individual volunteers doing the same independently as a
> hobby.
>
> If you have a clear idea about what you want to accomplish, I'd recommend
> you to take the lightest steps that will lead you there. Iterations,
> experiments and changes are expected anyway, being this idea so new and
> different in the context of our movement. It is also an idea easy to
> implement and maintain (through a service like e.g. https://masto.host or
> self-hosted). And economically affordable.
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

[Quim Gil]

Hi Sylvain!

(Let me add the disclaimer that opinions are mine and don't represent the
views of the Foundation.)

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM Sylvain Boissel <
sylvain.bois...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> It may have changed since I last checked (a bit more than a year ago), but
> while it is easy to create an instance, migrating an account to another
> instance, or moving an entire instance to a new domain is not (I couldn't
> even find documentation on how to accomplish this. So if we start an
> instance that is supposed to become an official one, we need at the very
> least have the final domain name from the start. Depending on the one we
> want, we still might need official support (e.g., anyone can register
> wikimedians.social, but wikimedia.social is restricted to the WMF by a DPML
> Block.)
>

This is a good point. Renaming Mastodon instances continues to be a pain --
see https://discourse.joinmastodon.org/t/domain-changes-and-aliases/671

This is a good reason to bet on a domain for the long run. However, let's
not mix two different concepts: use of Wikimedia trademarks and official
technical support (servers, maintenance). If the promoters of this
initiative decide to propose a domain that use a Wikimedia trademark, they
can request an authorization via
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.

> * Legal: Aiming for an official Wikimedia instance has implications of
> > trademarks, legal requirements, and so on. While there is no need to
> start
> > with an official instance, it is useful to consider the scenario early
> on.
> >
> Do you know what these requirements are? Are some issues unsolvable (for
> example, if an official Wikimedia instance implies that no movie-based gifs
> can be posted (for copyright reasons), then this instance has basically no
> chance to gain a large user base. While this may not be a problem (a small
> instance with a small number of accounts posting things like
> #pictureOfTheDay to the whole Fediverse would still be valuable), this
> would change the scope of what we try to accomplish.
>

Honestly, no idea. I am just applying the basic reasoning that the
requirements and potential risks for content and user data will be more
complex for the Wikimedia Foundation maintaining a service officially than
for a group of individual volunteers doing the same independently as a
hobby.

If you have a clear idea about what you want to accomplish, I'd recommend
you to take the lightest steps that will lead you there. Iterations,
experiments and changes are expected anyway, being this idea so new and
different in the context of our movement. It is also an idea easy to
implement and maintain (through a service like e.g. https://masto.host or
self-hosted). And economically affordable.

-- 
Quim Gil
Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF
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