Re: [Wikimedia-l] +28K images freed from Israel archives and uploaded to commons

[Pete Forsyth]

That's wonderful news. For those of us who don't speak Hebrew, can you say
a bit more about how this project came about?
-Pete

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 10:16 PM  Hello,
>
> It is a great pleasure for me to let you all know that wikimedia Israel
> had developed a web scraper that crawled in various archives in Israel and
> uploaded more than 28K free images to commons.
>
> The tool (https://github.com/wmil-1946/wikiscraper) was developed to
> crawl the web site (list below) and clean them, remove water marks, etc.
>
> Only images taken before 1946 were uploaded, as per the law in Israel and
> United states.
>
> Many volunteers had joined the effort by categorizing, linking and using
> the images once uploaded.
>
> It even got coverage on Israeli media (here (
> https://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3749654,00.html))
>
> Commons categories containing the files:
> [1 (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_JNF_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
> 2 (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_ISA_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
> 3 (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Moshe_Sharett_Archive_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
> 4 (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Palmah_Archive_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
> 5 (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_GPO_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel
> )]
>
> Thanks to all the people involved in this gigantic effort and enjoy using
> historical images from the holy land! :)
>
> Matanya
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

[Wikimedia-l] +28K images freed from Israel archives and uploaded to commons

[matanya]

Hello,

It is a great pleasure for me to let you all know that wikimedia Israel had 
developed a web scraper that crawled in various archives in Israel and uploaded 
more than 28K free images to commons.

The tool (https://github.com/wmil-1946/wikiscraper) was developed to crawl the 
web site (list below) and clean them, remove water marks, etc.

Only images taken before 1946 were uploaded, as per the law in Israel and 
United states.

Many volunteers had joined the effort by categorizing, linking and using the 
images once uploaded.

It even got coverage on Israeli media (here 
(https://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3749654,00.html))

Commons categories containing the files:
[1 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_JNF_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
 2 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_ISA_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
 3 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Moshe_Sharett_Archive_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
 4 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Palmah_Archive_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)
 5 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_GPO_uploaded_by_Wikimedia_Israel)]

Thanks to all the people involved in this gigantic effort and enjoy using 
historical images from the holy land! :)

Matanya
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[George Herbert]

I believe that the subject line was a moral and leadership failure.
Effective or not, I would respectfully suggest that you stop using it
immediately and begin further discussions with the community about the
organization's goals and purpose.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:13 PM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> Hey Pine,
>
> I appreciate and understand your feedback about this subject line.
>
> For some time we have been trying to find an alternative subject line to
> -/This is a little awkward/-. That line works and works very well but we
> have found it very difficult to effectively translate and adapt into other
> languages, and despite our best efforts have struggled to find an
> alternative.
>
> We first tested -/Deleting Wikipedia?/- as a subject line a couple of weeks
> ago and it was the only winning variant in hundreds of tests. We retested
> in case it was a statistical fluke and continued to see it perform well.
> The effectiveness of this subject line for the most part does not come from
> its apparent clickbaiting. The change in the number of people opening the
> emails was relatively small and unsubscribes remained extremely low. The
> big driver in terms of its success was from a significant increase in those
> people who opened AND read our email appeal. We posed a question and donors
> were motivated to donate when presented with the idea of imagining a world
> without Wikipedia.
>
> Our motivation behind this sort of subject line is the fact that in three
> countries today it is already as if Wikipedia does not exist. The risk that
> this could happen in more countries is greater now that it ever has been.
> Censorship, impediments to free speech and over regulation of copyright are
> threats that Wikipedia, Wikimedia and its communities face every single day
> and it is with that context that we want to lead.
>
> Any email that included this subject line came with at least some context
> to flesh out the idea, i.e., “If Wikipedia were deleted, it would be a
> great loss to the world,”, but going forward it is our full intention to
> make even clearer that we intend for the donor to imagine a world without
> Wikipedia and the threats it faces every day, not threaten that it is going
> away.
>
> Our plan is to continue to testing on this theme, exploring censorship and
> copyright restrictions as well as our increasing role as the backbone of
> knowledge on the internet, and help donors see that knowledge can and is
> threatened all the time. We are definitely and eagerly open to any
> feedback, suggestions and ideas you might have.
>
> Best,
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:04 PM Pine W  wrote:
>
> > There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
> > receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
> > Deleting Wikipedia?"
> >
> > In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
> > and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
> > mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this
> is
> > happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
> > effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
> > received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong
> and
> > it should stop.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > 
>
>
>
> --
> Seddon
>
> *Community and Audience Engagement Associate*
> *Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation*
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 



-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[Joseph Seddon]

"That hasn't been the case in the past when campaign goals are met."

The fundraising team has actively sought to reduce the impact that raising
donations has on readers. We covered this in a blog last year about the
2016 fundraiser:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/10/03/fundraising-banner-limit/

We managed to reduce this again through last years fundraising and actively
curtailed the number and frequency of banners that our readers saw.

With regards to email we only send three fundraising asks to any one
individual as it stands which is a fraction of what most charities send to
their previous donors. In the case of last year we actually held off
sending the third fundraising email to a significant portion of individuals
precisely because we were reaching our campaign goal.

So I would argue this is actually the case and that if we can, we will.

Regards
Seddon



On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:16 PM Nathan  wrote:

> "Deleting Wikipedia?" was the subject line of the e-mail I received as
> well. It also, as usual, included the claim that if enough donations were
> received the campaign would end early. That hasn't been the case in the
> past when campaign goals are met.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 6:04 PM Pine W  wrote:
>
> > There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
> > receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
> > Deleting Wikipedia?"
> >
> > In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
> > and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
> > mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this
> is
> > happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
> > effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
> > received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong
> and
> > it should stop.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > 
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 



-- 
Seddon

*Community and Audience Engagement Associate*
*Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation*
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[Joseph Seddon]

Hey Pine,

I appreciate and understand your feedback about this subject line.

For some time we have been trying to find an alternative subject line to
-/This is a little awkward/-. That line works and works very well but we
have found it very difficult to effectively translate and adapt into other
languages, and despite our best efforts have struggled to find an
alternative.

We first tested -/Deleting Wikipedia?/- as a subject line a couple of weeks
ago and it was the only winning variant in hundreds of tests. We retested
in case it was a statistical fluke and continued to see it perform well.
The effectiveness of this subject line for the most part does not come from
its apparent clickbaiting. The change in the number of people opening the
emails was relatively small and unsubscribes remained extremely low. The
big driver in terms of its success was from a significant increase in those
people who opened AND read our email appeal. We posed a question and donors
were motivated to donate when presented with the idea of imagining a world
without Wikipedia.

Our motivation behind this sort of subject line is the fact that in three
countries today it is already as if Wikipedia does not exist. The risk that
this could happen in more countries is greater now that it ever has been.
Censorship, impediments to free speech and over regulation of copyright are
threats that Wikipedia, Wikimedia and its communities face every single day
and it is with that context that we want to lead.

Any email that included this subject line came with at least some context
to flesh out the idea, i.e., “If Wikipedia were deleted, it would be a
great loss to the world,”, but going forward it is our full intention to
make even clearer that we intend for the donor to imagine a world without
Wikipedia and the threats it faces every day, not threaten that it is going
away.

Our plan is to continue to testing on this theme, exploring censorship and
copyright restrictions as well as our increasing role as the backbone of
knowledge on the internet, and help donors see that knowledge can and is
threatened all the time. We are definitely and eagerly open to any
feedback, suggestions and ideas you might have.

Best,
Seddon

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:04 PM Pine W  wrote:

> There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
> receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
> Deleting Wikipedia?"
>
> In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
> and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
> mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this is
> happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
> effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
> received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong and
> it should stop.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 



-- 
Seddon

*Community and Audience Engagement Associate*
*Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation*
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[James Salsman]

On the contrary, Nathan, every single time I have asked them to hold
the campaigns open after the fundraising goal has been met (most if
not almost all of the past ten years) in order to, for example, fund
the Endowment or save more money before the Endowment existed, they
have refused to do so. Is there some document I am missing?

Best regards,
Jim


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM Nathan  wrote:
>
> "Deleting Wikipedia?" was the subject line of the e-mail I received as
> well. It also, as usual, included the claim that if enough donations were
> received the campaign would end early. That hasn't been the case in the
> past when campaign goals are met.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 6:04 PM Pine W  wrote:
>
> > There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
> > receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
> > Deleting Wikipedia?"
> >
> > In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
> > and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
> > mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this is
> > happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
> > effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
> > received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong and
> > it should stop.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > 
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 
> 

___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[Nathan]

"Deleting Wikipedia?" was the subject line of the e-mail I received as
well. It also, as usual, included the claim that if enough donations were
received the campaign would end early. That hasn't been the case in the
past when campaign goals are met.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 6:04 PM Pine W  wrote:

> There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
> receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
> Deleting Wikipedia?"
>
> In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
> and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
> mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this is
> happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
> effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
> received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong and
> it should stop.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

[Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

[Pine W]

There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding
receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] -
Deleting Wikipedia?"

In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices,
and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news" becoming
mainstream WMF chooses to continue to be a part of the problem. If this is
happening then I request that WMF put a stop to it. Regardless of how
effective it is to send misleading fundraising appeals and that WMF has
received minimal repercussions for doing so over the years, it's wrong and
it should stop.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flash fundraiser for Wikimedia Portugal

[Pine W]

For what it's worth, I am sorry to hear about this painful situation. I
don't know enough about the situation in WMPT, WMF, and AffCom, to say much
more than that at this time, and I have no authority to intervene, but I
hope that the chapter is viable and that in there will be a light at the
end of the tunnel.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

an interesting concept indeed!

dj

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM Denny Vrandečić 
mailto:vrande...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The extended whitepaper that was presented at the DL workshop is now
available here:

http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia_whitepaper.pdf

Still not a proper scientific paper (no references, notv situated in
related work), but going into a bit more detail on the ideas on the first
paper published previously.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:32 Denny Vrandečić 
mailto:vrande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in
> a way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize
> the shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and
> widespread languages that we know of are human natural languages, and the
> largest knowledge base we have is the wealth of text written in human
> languages.
>
> We looks for a path to bridge the gap between knowledge representation
> languages such as OWL and human natural languages such as English. We
> propose a project to simultaneously expose that gap, allow to collaborate
> on closing it, make progress widely visible, and is highly attractive and
> valuable in its own right: a Wikipedia written in an abstract language to
> be rendered into any natural language on request. This would make current
> Wikipedia editors about 100x more productive, and increase the content of
> Wikipedia by 10x. For billions of users this will unlock knowledge they
> currently do not have access to.
>
> My first talk on this topic will be on October 10, 2018, 16:45-17:00, at
> the Asilomar in Monterey, CA during the Blue Sky track of ISWC. My second,
> longer talk on the topic will be at the DL workshop in Tempe, AZ, October
> 27-29. Comments are very welcome as I prepare the slides and the talk.
>
> Link to the paper: http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia.pdf
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: 
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 
?subject=unsubscribe>


--

[http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/minds.jpg]
prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak
kierownik katedry MINDS (Management in Networked and Digital Societies)
Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
http://NeRDS.kozminski.edu.pl 




Ostatnie artykuły:

  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of 
Quality of Information on 
Wikipedias 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
A-Hierarchical 
Organization 
Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
  *   Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities 
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
Projects,
 PLoS ONE 11:  4.  e0152976.
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

[Denny Vrandečić]

The extended whitepaper that was presented at the DL workshop is now
available here:

http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia_whitepaper.pdf

Still not a proper scientific paper (no references, notv situated in
related work), but going into a bit more detail on the ideas on the first
paper published previously.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:32 Denny Vrandečić  Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in
> a way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize
> the shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and
> widespread languages that we know of are human natural languages, and the
> largest knowledge base we have is the wealth of text written in human
> languages.
>
> We looks for a path to bridge the gap between knowledge representation
> languages such as OWL and human natural languages such as English. We
> propose a project to simultaneously expose that gap, allow to collaborate
> on closing it, make progress widely visible, and is highly attractive and
> valuable in its own right: a Wikipedia written in an abstract language to
> be rendered into any natural language on request. This would make current
> Wikipedia editors about 100x more productive, and increase the content of
> Wikipedia by 10x. For billions of users this will unlock knowledge they
> currently do not have access to.
>
> My first talk on this topic will be on October 10, 2018, 16:45-17:00, at
> the Asilomar in Monterey, CA during the Blue Sky track of ISWC. My second,
> longer talk on the topic will be at the DL workshop in Tempe, AZ, October
> 27-29. Comments are very welcome as I prepare the slides and the talk.
>
> Link to the paper: http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia.pdf
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] new blog post: interview with designer George Oates about Wikimedia Commons

[Fæ]

There is a detailed and factual post released today on Medium about
how poor a reader experience Medium is for blog posts, due to
tracking, profiling and banner advertising.[1]

For those that recall discussion in response to the WMF choice of
Facebook and Medium to communicate the report from George Oates last
month, this seems a decently factual summary of some of the reasons
why this is a poor practical choice for comms, as well as an ethical
issue when calmly measured against our open movement values.

The conclusion should ring alarm bells for any WMF staffer with
responsibility for Communications and is still tempted to promote
Medium by posting or cross-posting there, or indeed any other platform
which uses the same commercial techniques:
"Basically, you’re selling readers to aggressive Medium
self-advertising so that Medium could make laughably small money from
a miserable fraction of them. And annoy the hell out of everyone
else."

Links:
1. 
https://medium.com/@nikitonsky/medium-is-a-poor-choice-for-blogging-bb0048d19133

Thanks,
Fae
-- 
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 15:33, Fæ  wrote:
>
> So, no learning points from this expensive feedback, cost measured in 
> volunteer time and damage to good will from the most active and committed 
> volunteers.
>
> Sorry, do not expect me to believe in future political statements of values 
> and ethics from the WMF, when they are thrown away at any slight 
> inconvenience.
>
> Fae
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, 15:23 Sandra Fauconnier via Commons-l, 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I did indeed include the link to the Village Pump discussion in my original 
>> post, but not in the best or most visible/encouraging way. My apologies. 
>> It's not at all my intention to force anyone to use a platform they don't 
>> like, and I apologize again if I gave that impression.
>>
>> Many people in our communities discuss very actively and constructively on 
>> Facebook, and increasingly on Telegram, and probably on quite a few other 
>> platforms that may or may not be aligned with our values as much as we would 
>> like. As a long-time Wikimedian in my free time, I'm a strong open source 
>> and OpenGLAM advocate and fan, but I will be the first to admit I'm not a 
>> purist, I do indeed use Facebook and a few of these other Evil Places, and I 
>> don't mind tracking (and pointing to) conversations happening elsewhere. I 
>> do feel conflicted about this (like about many other things in that 
>> complicated thing called life) but I give priority to hearing more voices 
>> here.
>>
>> The interview is indeed intended as a 'fresh' perspective from an informed 
>> outsider. While we may not agree with everything George says, hopefully 
>> there are nuggets of interesting feedback that we can use to our benefit. 
>> This is not meant to replace the community's ideas, needs and vision at all. 
>> It's additional to it.
>>
>> Cheers, Sandra
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Steinsplitter Wiki via Commons-l 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >>I'm sure we can find a suitable place to discuss this on-wiki, and there 
>>> >>should be an appropriate link for that.
>>>
>>>
>>> I see Sara posted it on the VP as well: 
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Blog_post:_interview_with_George_Oates_about_Wikimedia_Commons
>>>
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> >>As for the actual topic of the interview, I am glad to see an outside 
>>> >>opinion from someone who has experience with large, community-driven 
>>> >>media repositories. I might not agree with all the sentiments, and 
>>> >>structured data and out Next Big Thing did not exactly feature 
>>> >>prominently, but I find it refreshing to leave the echo chamber once in a 
>>> >>while.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is true as well.
>>>
>>> BTW: If my initial post sounded a bit rude, please excuse for that.
>>>
>>> --Steinsplitter
>>>
>>> 
>>> Von: Commons-l  im Auftrag von 
>>> Magnus Manske via Commons-l 
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2018 15:43
>>> An: Walter Siegmund; Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
>>> Betreff: Re: [Commons-l] new blog post: interview with designer George 
>>> Oates about Wikimedia Commons
>>>
>>> Some quick thoughts from me.
>>>
>>> I, too, find the Facebook/Medium discussion reroute unfortunate (I'm not 
>>> even on Facebook), though it might help attract some more newcomers. I'm 
>>> sure we can find a suitable place to discuss this on-wiki, and there should 
>>> be an appropriate link for that.
>>>
>>> As for the actual topic of the interview, I am glad to see an outside 
>>> opinion from someone who has experience with large, community-driven media 
>>> repositories. I might not agree with all the sentiments, and structured 
>>> data and out Next Big Thing did not exactly feature prominently, but I find 
>>> it refreshing to leave the echo chamber once in a while.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Magnus
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 

[Wikimedia-l] Flash fundraiser for Wikimedia Portugal

[GoEthe.wiki]

Dear all,

As you may know, AffCom and the Wikimedia Foundation has decided to extend
the suspension of Wikimedia Portugal, while waiting for legal counsel for
our case. This has put our programmatic activities in jeopardy, as we have
been barred from applying to funding from WMF while the suspension is in
effect.

We have therefore started an emergency fundraiser campaign [1] to raise
500€ by the end of this week, in order to salvage as much of the activities
as we can. Even if we only raise a third of this goal will allow us to, for
example, participate at a conference we have helped organize [2] and
present a workshop at the National Library of Portugal [3]. If we reach our
goal in full, it will allow us a bit of air to organize events in the first
trimester of 2019, while we wait for a final decision from AffCom.

If you would like to contribute, please use the information on the first
link. We will be eternally grateful.

[1] https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Campanha_2018
[2] https://moita2018.softwarelivre.eu/
[3]
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:GLAM/Biblioteca_Nacional_de_Portugal/BNP_GLAM_Days_2018

Best regards,

Gonçalo Themudo

*Presidente*
*Wikimedia Portugal*
*Email: *goethe.w...@gmail.com
*Website: *http://pt.wikimedia.org 
*Imagine um mundo onde cada ser humano pode partilhar livremente a soma de
todo o conhecimento, na sua própria língua.*
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,