Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

[Nathan]

I won't claim to speak for an entire state, but as a Vermont resident I
find I have no objection to this post.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

[Gnangarra]

I also find it good to hear about these opportunities, I work with students
doing both under graduate and post graduate studies these emails enable me
to show to them that there are future opportunities and value in working
with Wikimedia projects.   Even though the scope is small and appears
unlikely to be of interest I have had a student complete their studies here
in Perth, Western Australia and utilize those skill after taking up a
position at University in Johannesburg South Africa.  I also know of two
students who have made applications to do doctoral studies in the US based
on these opportunities, and another person who applied for a UK WiR
position.

These opportunities are a very important aspect of sharing knowledge, and
community development as for all caps its really not that significant in
the greater scheme of things

On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:35, Todd Allen  wrote:

> I don't think the posting itself is inappropriate. It's Wikimedia-related
> business, and that, broadly, is what this list is for.
>
> Still, the use of ALL CAPS for a subject which will only be of relevance to
> a small fraction of readers is indeed a bit much. (And that's true even
> beyond geography; I live in Colorado, but I'm not interested in such a
> position.) So, I think that particular complaint is valid. Use regular
> case, and let the reader decide whether it's of importance to them.
>
> Todd
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:28 PM Robert Fernandez 
> wrote:
>
> > As a long time on and off subscriber to this list for many years, I want
> to
> > say that I do find posts about jobs like this very useful, unlike posts
> > complaining about capitalization and geography.  It is informative and
> > exciting to find out where Wikipedia projects are making in-roads, and
> what
> > better place to find an experienced job candidate who will respect
> > community norms and policies while editing on behalf of an employer.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:40 PM Jake Orlowitz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Annual Reviews, an independent, nonprofit scholarly research publisher,
> > > seeks an enthusiastic Wikipedian-in-Residence (WIR).
> > >
> > > The aim of this role is to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of the sciences
> > by
> > > citing expert articles from Annual Reviews’ journals. The WIR will
> engage
> > > with Wikipedia editors across life, biomedical, physical, and social
> > > science articles and WikiProjects to help ensure responsible and
> valuable
> > > expansion of content.
> > >
> > > This is a temporary position for 10 hours/week, paid at $30/hour USD,
> and
> > > is anticipated to last for up to 1 year. This position can only be
> based
> > > remotely from the following states: CA, OR, OH, NV, NC, WA, WI, CO, MA,
> > PA,
> > > NY, HI, or MT.
> > >
> > > PLEASE APPLY!
> > >
> >
> https://annualreviewsnews.org/2020/02/25/seeking-a-wikipedian-in-residence/
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Jake Orlowitz
> > > *Founder of The Wikipedia Library*
> > > *Seeker of well people and sane societies*
> > >   kickstarter: bit.ly/CircleKickstarter
> > >   me: jakeorlowitz.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

[Todd Allen]

I don't think the posting itself is inappropriate. It's Wikimedia-related
business, and that, broadly, is what this list is for.

Still, the use of ALL CAPS for a subject which will only be of relevance to
a small fraction of readers is indeed a bit much. (And that's true even
beyond geography; I live in Colorado, but I'm not interested in such a
position.) So, I think that particular complaint is valid. Use regular
case, and let the reader decide whether it's of importance to them.

Todd

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:28 PM Robert Fernandez 
wrote:

> As a long time on and off subscriber to this list for many years, I want to
> say that I do find posts about jobs like this very useful, unlike posts
> complaining about capitalization and geography.  It is informative and
> exciting to find out where Wikipedia projects are making in-roads, and what
> better place to find an experienced job candidate who will respect
> community norms and policies while editing on behalf of an employer.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:40 PM Jake Orlowitz 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Annual Reviews, an independent, nonprofit scholarly research publisher,
> > seeks an enthusiastic Wikipedian-in-Residence (WIR).
> >
> > The aim of this role is to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of the sciences
> by
> > citing expert articles from Annual Reviews’ journals. The WIR will engage
> > with Wikipedia editors across life, biomedical, physical, and social
> > science articles and WikiProjects to help ensure responsible and valuable
> > expansion of content.
> >
> > This is a temporary position for 10 hours/week, paid at $30/hour USD, and
> > is anticipated to last for up to 1 year. This position can only be based
> > remotely from the following states: CA, OR, OH, NV, NC, WA, WI, CO, MA,
> PA,
> > NY, HI, or MT.
> >
> > PLEASE APPLY!
> >
> https://annualreviewsnews.org/2020/02/25/seeking-a-wikipedian-in-residence/
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jake Orlowitz
> > *Founder of The Wikipedia Library*
> > *Seeker of well people and sane societies*
> >   kickstarter: bit.ly/CircleKickstarter
> >   me: jakeorlowitz.com
> >   mail: jorlow...@gmail.com
> >   media: @jakeorlowitz 
> >   book: welcometothecircle.net
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

[Robert Fernandez]

As a long time on and off subscriber to this list for many years, I want to
say that I do find posts about jobs like this very useful, unlike posts
complaining about capitalization and geography.  It is informative and
exciting to find out where Wikipedia projects are making in-roads, and what
better place to find an experienced job candidate who will respect
community norms and policies while editing on behalf of an employer.



On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:40 PM Jake Orlowitz  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Annual Reviews, an independent, nonprofit scholarly research publisher,
> seeks an enthusiastic Wikipedian-in-Residence (WIR).
>
> The aim of this role is to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of the sciences by
> citing expert articles from Annual Reviews’ journals. The WIR will engage
> with Wikipedia editors across life, biomedical, physical, and social
> science articles and WikiProjects to help ensure responsible and valuable
> expansion of content.
>
> This is a temporary position for 10 hours/week, paid at $30/hour USD, and
> is anticipated to last for up to 1 year. This position can only be based
> remotely from the following states: CA, OR, OH, NV, NC, WA, WI, CO, MA, PA,
> NY, HI, or MT.
>
> PLEASE APPLY!
> https://annualreviewsnews.org/2020/02/25/seeking-a-wikipedian-in-residence/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jake Orlowitz
> *Founder of The Wikipedia Library*
> *Seeker of well people and sane societies*
>   kickstarter: bit.ly/CircleKickstarter
>   me: jakeorlowitz.com
>   mail: jorlow...@gmail.com
>   media: @jakeorlowitz 
>   book: welcometothecircle.net
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Treatment of newbies with mild CoI

[Martijn Hoekstra]

As a quick/rough data point  I don't frequently edit wikipedia anymore, and
when I do I never log in.

About 2/3 edits no further interactions happen. About 10% gets reverted,
about 10% of the time I get a warning and the last 10% I get a welcome
template.



On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 15:52 Marshall Miller 
wrote:

> Thanks for mentioning the WMF Growth team [1], Pine.  This is a really
> interesting thread that has touched on much of what the team has been
> working on alongside the Czech, Korean, Arabic, and Vietnamese Wikipedia
> communities (and with the advice of people from many different communities
> along the way).
>
> We've tried to base our approach in research on newcomers, which taught us
> that newcomers face three main types of challenges: technical, conceptual,
> and cultural [2].  For instance, the research tells us that the rules of
> the wiki are hard to learn, and that a negative first interaction can cause
> a newcomer to leave the wiki and not return -- but that a positive
> interaction, such as getting advice from a friendly editor, can cause them
> to stay.
>
> Over the last year and a half, we have experimented on mid-size Wikipedias
> with features that promote good communication between new and experienced
> users [3], that help newcomers teach themselves [4], and that give
> newcomers easy tasks to do [5].  The goal is to build an experience for
> newcomers that helps them get on a positive track in their first days on
> the wiki, and want to stick around to join their communities.  It's
> possible that what we've learned and built so far will apply differently to
> the largest Wikipedias.
>
> I hope that anyone who is interested in newcomers can tell us about their
> own experiences and ideas on our team's discussion page [6], or on the
> discussion pages of any of our projects.  It's very important to us that
> the things we build fit in with how communities work today.  Over the next
> year, we're planning to expand the Growth features to more wikis, so we
> definitely want to talk to people who think the features might be a good
> fit for their wikis.
>
> To keep informed about the Growth team, please subscribe to our newsletter
> [7].
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Editor_Experiences
> [3]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_homepage#Mentorship_module
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Focus_on_help_desk
> [5]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_tasks
> [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Growth
> [7] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newsletters
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:07 AM Vi to  wrote:
>
> > Not really, drawing practical advices/lessons (e.g. "differentiate among
> > kinds of COIs") is the only sensible path towards solving issues.
> > "Let's be kind" is close to a tautology.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > Il giorno mer 26 feb 2020 alle ore 09:59 Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:36, Vi to  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hard to tell anything without the relevant link(s).
> > >
> > > For you, maybe. Others have already given helpful replies.
> > >
> > > My question was generic, and not about the specific case I gave as an
> > > example.
> > >
> > > I chose not to post links to to the example, both in order to avoid a
> > > pile-on, and to avoid us being distracted by the minutiae of the
> > > incident concerned.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Mabbett
> > > @pigsonthewing
> > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

[Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l]

Hello,

Speaking as a person within the great state of Vermont, (not included in
the list):

This mailing list has a lot of people on it, many of which are not within
the United States, if not most. And of those who are in the United States,
there’s a large chance that they’re not in one of those states.

It seems unnecessary to email an very large mailing list seeking an editor,
for what is basically paid editing, from a very small geographic area.

Regards,
Vermont

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 16:32 Michael Peel  wrote:

>
>
> > This position can only be based
> > remotely from the following states: CA, OR, OH, NV, NC, WA, WI, CO, MA,
> PA,
> > NY, HI, or MT.
> >
> > PLEASE APPLY!
>
> You might have a slight mismatch between the audience that reads this
> mailing list, and your rather arbitrary geographic location requirement.
> Perhaps consider changing one of them?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Treatment of newbies with mild CoI

[Marshall Miller]

Thanks for mentioning the WMF Growth team [1], Pine.  This is a really
interesting thread that has touched on much of what the team has been
working on alongside the Czech, Korean, Arabic, and Vietnamese Wikipedia
communities (and with the advice of people from many different communities
along the way).

We've tried to base our approach in research on newcomers, which taught us
that newcomers face three main types of challenges: technical, conceptual,
and cultural [2].  For instance, the research tells us that the rules of
the wiki are hard to learn, and that a negative first interaction can cause
a newcomer to leave the wiki and not return -- but that a positive
interaction, such as getting advice from a friendly editor, can cause them
to stay.

Over the last year and a half, we have experimented on mid-size Wikipedias
with features that promote good communication between new and experienced
users [3], that help newcomers teach themselves [4], and that give
newcomers easy tasks to do [5].  The goal is to build an experience for
newcomers that helps them get on a positive track in their first days on
the wiki, and want to stick around to join their communities.  It's
possible that what we've learned and built so far will apply differently to
the largest Wikipedias.

I hope that anyone who is interested in newcomers can tell us about their
own experiences and ideas on our team's discussion page [6], or on the
discussion pages of any of our projects.  It's very important to us that
the things we build fit in with how communities work today.  Over the next
year, we're planning to expand the Growth features to more wikis, so we
definitely want to talk to people who think the features might be a good
fit for their wikis.

To keep informed about the Growth team, please subscribe to our newsletter
[7].

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Editor_Experiences
[3]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_homepage#Mentorship_module
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Focus_on_help_desk
[5]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_tasks
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Growth
[7] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newsletters

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:07 AM Vi to  wrote:

> Not really, drawing practical advices/lessons (e.g. "differentiate among
> kinds of COIs") is the only sensible path towards solving issues.
> "Let's be kind" is close to a tautology.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno mer 26 feb 2020 alle ore 09:59 Andy Mabbett <
> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:36, Vi to  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hard to tell anything without the relevant link(s).
> >
> > For you, maybe. Others have already given helpful replies.
> >
> > My question was generic, and not about the specific case I gave as an
> > example.
> >
> > I chose not to post links to to the example, both in order to avoid a
> > pile-on, and to avoid us being distracted by the minutiae of the
> > incident concerned.
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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