Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Chat

[RhinosF1 -]

Hi everyone,

They were issues with various things due to a CenturyLink outage that then
impacted a lot else. (IRCCloud / Cloudflare for example).

Maybe, try now?

Thanks,
RhinosF1

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 17:04, ZI Jony  wrote:

> I also have same problem like QEDK, I've also tried it on two different
>
> networks after seen QEDK's email but both time out in the end.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 9:21 PM Strainu  wrote:
>
>
>
> > În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani  a
>
> > scris:
>
> > >
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
>
> > > happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
>
> > discussion
>
> > > groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
>
> > being
>
> > > scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those
>
> > > platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
>
> > > proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
>
> > > infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
>
> >
>
> > Hey Amir,
>
> >
>
> > Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not
>
> > sound like it :)
>
> >
>
> > As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned
>
> > during the years that the best conversations happen where people
>
> > converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe
>
> > below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere.
>
> > I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but
>
> > individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most
>
> > people choose, based on which of the features are important for them.
>
> > And that platform might be different for different projects.
>
> >
>
> > What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in
>
> > that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if
>
> > you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but
>
> > don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.
>
> >
>
> > Strainu
>
> > >
>
> > > IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
> functionalities
>
> > of
>
> > > a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
>
> > instance
>
> > > in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
>
> > > * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline
>
> > > * Push notification and email notification
>
> > > * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others
>
> > > * Proper support for sharing media
>
> > > * Two factor authentication
>
> > > * A proper mobile app support
>
> > > * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)
>
> > > * Profile pictures
>
> > > * Ability to ping everyone with @here
>
> > > * much much more.
>
> > >
>
> > > You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
> anyone
>
> > can
>
> > > make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
>
> > > similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
>
> > >
>
> > > Some notes:
>
> > > * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
>
> > group
>
> > > of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or
>
> > > enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
>
> > message.
>
> > > * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
>
> > > * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
> deleted.
>
> > > * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
>
> > are
>
> > > covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:  https://w.wiki/AK$
>
> > >
>
> > > Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
> issues,
>
> > > file a bug in the phabricator.
>
> > >
>
> > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite
>
> > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
>
> > >
>
> > > Best
>
> > > --
>
> > > Amir (he/him)
>
> > > ___
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Chat

[ZI Jony]

I also have same problem like QEDK, I've also tried it on two different
networks after seen QEDK's email but both time out in the end.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 9:21 PM Strainu  wrote:

> În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani  a
> scris:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
> > happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
> discussion
> > groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
> being
> > scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those
> > platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
> > proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
> > infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
>
> Hey Amir,
>
> Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not
> sound like it :)
>
> As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned
> during the years that the best conversations happen where people
> converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe
> below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere.
> I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but
> individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most
> people choose, based on which of the features are important for them.
> And that platform might be different for different projects.
>
> What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in
> that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if
> you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but
> don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.
>
> Strainu
> >
> > IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
> of
> > a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
> instance
> > in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
> > * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline
> > * Push notification and email notification
> > * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others
> > * Proper support for sharing media
> > * Two factor authentication
> > * A proper mobile app support
> > * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)
> > * Profile pictures
> > * Ability to ping everyone with @here
> > * much much more.
> >
> > You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone
> can
> > make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
> > similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
> >
> > Some notes:
> > * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
> group
> > of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or
> > enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
> message.
> > * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
> > * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
> > * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
> are
> > covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:  https://w.wiki/AK$
> >
> > Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues,
> > file a bug in the phabricator.
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
> >
> > Best
> > --
> > Amir (he/him)
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
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> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chat

[Strainu]

În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani  a scris:
>
> Hello,
> Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
> happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion
> groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being
> scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those
> platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
> proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
> infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.

Hey Amir,

Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not
sound like it :)

As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned
during the years that the best conversations happen where people
converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe
below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere.
I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but
individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most
people choose, based on which of the features are important for them.
And that platform might be different for different projects.

What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in
that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if
you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but
don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.

Strainu
>
> IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of
> a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance
> in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
> * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline
> * Push notification and email notification
> * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others
> * Proper support for sharing media
> * Two factor authentication
> * A proper mobile app support
> * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)
> * Profile pictures
> * Ability to ping everyone with @here
> * much much more.
>
> You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can
> make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
> similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
>
> Some notes:
> * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group
> of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or
> enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message.
> * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
> * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
> * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are
> covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:  https://w.wiki/AK$
>
> Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues,
> file a bug in the phabricator.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
>
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update to the Conference Grants program dates and new proposals deadline

[Tito Dutta]

Hello,
I begin with my greetings. I hope this email finds everyone reading this
email safe and healthy.
I have some questions and observations. I have spent  quite some time
trying to understand the changes and newly (re)opened-up avenues. However,
I feel there is a lack of information, and inconsistency. I'd be sincerely
grateful for your kind attention.

a(i). Conference scale: What is the accepted conference scale? Is it
national-conference, global conference, small regional conference? The
example conferences mentioned at the grant page are mostly large-scale and
gives the impression
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/EventCategories#Thematic_Events
The conference/event date of round 2 is between January and June 2021 (we
are just four months away from January).
a(ii) What are the guidelines related to the maximum number of participants
in such a conference?

b. Effective region: Is this effective globally? There are several
countries where COVID-19 is in very serious and damaging condition, and yet
to reach its highest damaging time/peak. My question is, is this globally
applicable for all countries and all regions?

c. The last date of application for round 2 conferences is 28 September. As
far as I know, a large-scale (or any) conference requires a lot of
brainstorming, community consultation etc. This time other than these steps
to be completed in less than a month, one needs to attempt her/his best to
foresee the future (country's
COVID-condition/national-health/restrictions/status of transports etc in
Jan–June).

d) There are some inconsistencies in the grants page:
i) Opening paragraph (Template:Conference banner
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Conference_banner=20395803
)  mentions: "Now, we are extending these cancellations. We are suspending
the application process for all in-person Wikimedia conferences until
further notice. When the WHO declares that the pandemic is over, and it is
once again safe to gather in-person, we will commit to offering support for
smaller community events through a rapid grants process." then right after
a couple of sections all restrictions are lifted.
ii) There are a few minor typos which I'll ignore such as 1) "The new
deadline for submissions will be 7 September 2020", however it is 28
September 2020, 2) Please note that starting September 9, 2019 all recent
temporary restrictions for Conference & Events grants have been lifted, and
all grant proposals will be welcomed and considered. (it is September 9.
2020, not 2019) etc.


User:Titodutta
(Volunteer editor, Wikipedia)

শনি, ২৯ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ২:০৭ AM টায় এ Chen Almog 
লিখেছেন:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Following our last update
>  >
> regarding in-person gatherings, we wanted to share another update on the
> new dates for the upcoming Conference Grants program funding round.
>
>
> As we want to allow more time for potential grantees to review and utilize
> the forthcoming September release of guidance for in-person gatherings, we
> have extended the upcoming deadline for new Conference Grants proposals
> until  September 28, 2020. Please see all the specific dates on the
> conference grants meta page
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference#Event_categories_and_dates
> >.
> We will be accepting applications in September for events occurring between
> January - June 2021.
>
> For this round we will also include Growth events
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/EventCategories#Growth_Events
> >
> and innovative ideas that will welcome more contributors to our movements
> and projects; and on gatherings that will support the implementation of the
> Wikimedia 2030 strategy recommendations.
>
> We also wanted to take the opportunity to officially welcome the new member
> of our team, Rachel Farrand
> , who probably
> many of you already know from managing our past Technical Events Ecosystem
> and who has been working at the Wikimedia Foundation on community events
> since 2011. She is now a Senior Program Officer and will be joining me in
> managing our Conference grants program.Rachel will be overseeing our
> Thematic
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/EventCategories#Thematic_Events
> >and
> Growth
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/EventCategories#Growth_Events
> >events,
> and I will continue focusing on our Regional
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/EventCategories#Regional_Events
> >events.
> We will also continue to support other projects related to Community
> Events.
>
>
>  If you have any questions as for the upcoming funding round, potential
> proposals or need feedback on draft proposals - please reach out to us at
> conferencegra...@wikimedia.org .
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Chen
>
> --
>
> Chen Almog (she/her)
>
> Senior Program Officer,