[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Samuel,

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 21:35, Samuel Klein  wrote:

>
> I don't believe the idea is for anyone to explicitly represent their
> geography, affiliations, or organizations -- rather to draft a meaningful
> and empowering starting point for us all.
>

People develop their perspectives based on their environment, culture and
surroundings and it is almost impossible for anyone to understand
comprehensively about what is going on in other places without dealing with
their real situation there. It doesn't matter how honest or how experienced
a person might be, an Western European will have hard times to understand
all the real issues in South Asia, A South Asian will have little
understanding about what is really happening in Latin America and that is
why geographical representation is needed. If the question or process is
about something global, then it is needed even more. To draft a document
for us all, it is essential to get voices from as many as possible, if not
all. How can a movement charter be drafted if it does not echo the concerns
of all our existing communities clearly?

We chose to follow popular elections which have always brought North
Americans and Europeans on the top of the table and historically abandoned
other parts of the world, even though there are capable people in those
parts too but do not have the voter base. We have seen it repeated in this
election process too. Here we had 7 seats through community elections, so
its almost futile for Global South candidates to compete there, the proof
of my statement is that only 1 candidate from the Global South actually
made through this election. So, they only have 6 affiliate selected
positions from 8 Wikimedia regions (and 1 Thematic hub), where they have
minimal chance because 6 seats from 8 regions count to < 1 candidate per
hub. So, regions like South Asia, ESEAP, Sub-Saharan Africa, etc. was
extremely lucky to get 1 candidate in the committee, 2 is not at all
expected. Don't you think that this is a totally unfair process from the
start for under-represented communities and affiliates? No wonder, people
here are getting aloof from the movement strategy process.

Of course broad geographic and project backgrounds, and good language
> diversity (within the drafting group and through available tools to support
> work with others) are important for this work.  But please don't exclude
> any participant from that, based on the experimental mix of selection
> processes.  We are all wikimedians.  Runa and Jorge for instance have been
> advancing the global movement towards free knowledge, culture and tools for
> a very long time.  And having a translation expert actively involved should
> help amplify different voices :).
>

Sorry for my English, I am not a native English speaker, so maybe there is
a misunderstanding. I have not excluded anyone as you are saying. Runa and
Jorge are amazing people in the movement but I was talking about
geographical representation of the communities and they are appointed by
WMF as their representative, so geographical representation does not stand
there.

>
> PS - There are still many, many systemic gaps and biases in our
> communities and our knowledge.  The focus on elevating and connecting
> regional hubs may help address this, and I dearly hope to see thriving hubs
> in Asia. But I wouldn't say the next billion participants, editors, and
> learners will come from any one region; rather from underserved communities
> everywhere in the world! (And by stats like readership
> ,
> communities in Africa are still the least reached, including proportional
> to connectivity.)
>

More than 4 billion people live here in South Asian and ESEAP countries. If
our next billion readers will not come from here by 2030, then where will
it come from? These are developing countries embracing technology at a high
rate. (Anyway, my opinion concerns Africa too. There is only 1
representative from the entire Sub-Saharan Africa.)

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Feedback requested on draft updated Wikimedia Foundation Conflict of Interest Policy

[Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l]

Thank you for this, it will be useful for affiliates who are working on these 
issues too.
Kind regards,
Nattes

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 1 nov. 2021 à 14:02, Amanda Keton  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The Wikimedia Foundation legal team has posted a draft of an updated conflict 
> of interest policy on Meta-Wiki:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates
> 
> We are collecting feedback on the policy for the next three weeks: today 
> until 22 November.
> 
> The updated policy will replace the current Conflict of Interest Policy for 
> Board Members, Officers, Executives, and Key Employees.[1] Note: This is not 
> related to any policies or issues regarding paid/conflict of interest editing 
> of the projects. It is about conflicts of interest that may arise in 
> connection with an individual’s executive or Board role at the Foundation.
> 
> In preparing the updated policy, we consulted model conflict of interest 
> policies, guidance regarding best practices for conflict of interest 
> policies, outside legal experts on non-profit governance, and the points 
> raised in the community discussion on conflicts of interest earlier this 
> year.[2]
> 
> We invite you to review the draft policy and leave any feedback you have on 
> the talk page. In particular, we are interested in identifying any aspects of 
> the policy where the language or procedure is not clear. We also want to know 
> if there are any gaps in the policy: are there any conflict of interest 
> situations that cause you concern and that the policy does not seem to cover?
> 
> The Governance Committee of the Board of Trustees has reviewed the draft 
> policy, and will review it again following the feedback period. It will then 
> go before the full Board to be approved and adopted.
> 
> Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read the draft policy. Please leave 
> your feedback on the talk page[3] so that we can best review and respond to 
> it in an organized manner.
> 
> In solidarity and with gratitude,
> 
> Amanda
> 
> Amanda Keton
> She/They
> General Counsel and Transition Team Member
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> 
> [1] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy
> [2] 
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/PFOBFWCBFACRGY3OMXAQG54ALPXGT3K3/#4WUO2JZ2ZXOGQR2A6TRPW457NRCQNVZ5
> [3] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates 
> 
> -- 
> 
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

[Samuel Klein]

Thank you Kaarel, and kudos to the committee; may the work get off to a
solid start.

Bodhisattwa Mandal  writes:

> Coming from South Asia and looking at ESEAP, I am not at all excited
> considering the geographical representation of the committee as per
> Wikimedia regions[1], excluding WMF appointed candidates who will represent
> WMF instead of the regions itself
>

Hi Bodhisattwa,

I don't believe the idea is for anyone to explicitly represent their
geography, affiliations, or organizations -- rather to draft a meaningful
and empowering starting point for us all.

Of course broad geographic and project backgrounds, and good language
diversity (within the drafting group and through available tools to support
work with others) are important for this work.  But please don't exclude
any participant from that, based on the experimental mix of selection
processes.  We are all wikimedians.  Runa and Jorge for instance have been
advancing the global movement towards free knowledge, culture and tools for
a very long time.  And having a translation expert actively involved should
help amplify different voices :).

SJ.

PS - There are still many, many systemic gaps and biases in our communities
and our knowledge.  The focus on elevating and connecting regional hubs may
help address this, and I dearly hope to see thriving hubs in Asia. But I
wouldn't say the next billion participants, editors, and learners will come
from any one region; rather from underserved communities everywhere in the
world! (And by stats like readership
,
communities in Africa are still the least reached, including proportional
to connectivity.)
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello,

Coming from South Asia and looking at ESEAP, I am not at all excited
considering the geographical representation of the committee as per
Wikimedia regions[1], excluding WMF appointed candidates who will represent
WMF instead of the regions itself, we have

   - United States and Canada - 2 members
  - Western & Northern Europe - 3 members
  - Central and Eastern Europe & Central Asia - 1 member
  - Sub-Saharan Africa - 1 member
  - Middle East and North Africa - 2 members
  - East, Southeast Asia and the Pacific - 1 member
  - South Asia - 1 member
  - Latin America & Caribbean - 2 members

I am so surprised to see only 1 representation from ESEAP which has such a
thriving group of affiliates and which had talked about and tried to
materialise to build a hub in the region so passionately. If movement
strategy wants Wikimedia to reach the next billion users in future, they
are in South Asia and ESEAP and without hearing the voices from those
regions, that target will be very hard to achieve.

Anyway, good luck and best wishes for the drafting process. Hope it will
echo our voices.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Affiliate-chosen_members

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 18:32, Mardetanha  wrote:

> Congratulations to all elected, selected and appointed
>
> Mohsen
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:47 PM Kaarel Vaidla 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear movement colleagues,
>>
>> I am happy to announce that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee
>> election and selection processes are complete.
>>
>>-
>>
>>1018 participants voted to elect
>>
>> 
>>seven members to the committee:
>>-
>>
>>   Richard Knipel (Pharos)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Anne Clin (Risker)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Richard (Nosebagbear)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Ciell (Ciell)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>The affiliate process
>>
>> 
>>has selected six members:
>>-
>>
>>   Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Georges Fodouop (Geugeor)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Pepe Flores (Padaguan)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>The Wikimedia Foundation has appointed
>>
>> 
>>two members:
>>-
>>
>>   Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF)
>>   
>> 
>>   -
>>
>>   Jorge Vargas (JVargas WMF)
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>> The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can
>> appoint up to three more members  to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.
>>
>> We are also in the process of creating the meta pages with more details
>> regarding 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Feedback requested on draft updated Wikimedia Foundation Conflict of Interest Policy

[Andy Mabbett]

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 13:00, Amanda Keton  wrote:

> The Wikimedia Foundation legal team has posted a draft of an updated conflict 
> of interest policy on Meta-Wiki:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates
>
> We are collecting feedback on the policy for the next three weeks: today 
> until 22 November.

Is there a version which highlights the changes from the current policy?

--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

[Mardetanha]

Congratulations to all elected, selected and appointed

Mohsen

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:47 PM Kaarel Vaidla  wrote:

> Dear movement colleagues,
>
> I am happy to announce that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee
> election and selection processes are complete.
>
>-
>
>1018 participants voted to elect
>
> 
>seven members to the committee:
>-
>
>   Richard Knipel (Pharos)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Anne Clin (Risker)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Richard (Nosebagbear)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Ciell (Ciell)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>The affiliate process
>
> 
>has selected six members:
>-
>
>   Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Georges Fodouop (Geugeor)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Pepe Flores (Padaguan)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>The Wikimedia Foundation has appointed
>
> 
>two members:
>-
>
>   Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF)
>   
> 
>   -
>
>   Jorge Vargas (JVargas WMF)
>   
> 
>
>
> The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can
> appoint up to three more members  to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.
>
> We are also in the process of creating the meta pages with more details
> regarding the election and selection processes. I will follow-up in this
> thread when they are available.
>
> If you are interested in engaging with the Movement Charter drafting
> process , follow the
> updates on Meta
>  and
> join the Telegram group .
>
> With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team
> --
>
> Kaarel Vaidla (he/him)
>
> Movement Strategy 
>
> Wikimedia Foundation 
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[Wikimedia-l] Feedback requested on draft updated Wikimedia Foundation Conflict of Interest Policy

[Amanda Keton]

Hi all,

The Wikimedia Foundation legal team has posted a draft of an updated
conflict of interest policy on Meta-Wiki:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates

We are collecting feedback on the policy for the next three weeks: today
until 22 November.

The updated policy will replace the current Conflict of Interest Policy for
Board Members, Officers, Executives, and Key Employees.[1] Note: This is
not related to any policies or issues regarding paid/conflict of interest
editing of the projects. It is about conflicts of interest that may arise
in connection with an individual’s executive or Board role at the
Foundation.

In preparing the updated policy, we consulted model conflict of interest
policies, guidance regarding best practices for conflict of interest
policies, outside legal experts on non-profit governance, and the points
raised in the community discussion on conflicts of interest earlier this
year.[2]

We invite you to review the draft policy and leave any feedback you have on
the talk page. In particular, we are interested in identifying any aspects
of the policy where the language or procedure is not clear. We also want to
know if there are any gaps in the policy: are there any conflict of
interest situations that cause you concern and that the policy does not
seem to cover?

The Governance Committee of the Board of Trustees has reviewed the draft
policy, and will review it again following the feedback period. It will
then go before the full Board to be approved and adopted.

Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read the draft policy. Please
leave your feedback on the talk page[3] so that we can best review and
respond to it in an organized manner.

In solidarity and with gratitude,

Amanda

Amanda Keton

She/They

General Counsel and Transition Team Member

Wikimedia Foundation


[1] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy

[2]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/PFOBFWCBFACRGY3OMXAQG54ALPXGT3K3/#4WUO2JZ2ZXOGQR2A6TRPW457NRCQNVZ5
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates

-- 

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[Wikimedia-l] Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

[Kaarel Vaidla]

Dear movement colleagues,

I am happy to announce that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee
election and selection processes are complete.

   -

   1018 participants voted to elect
   

   seven members to the committee:
   -

  Richard Knipel (Pharos)
  

  -

  Anne Clin (Risker)
  

  -

  Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy)
  

  -

  Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
  

  -

  Richard (Nosebagbear)
  

  -

  Ciell (Ciell)
  

  -

  Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan)
  

  -

   The affiliate process
   

   has selected six members:
   -

  Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati)
  

  -

  Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini)
  

  -

  Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin)
  

  -

  Georges Fodouop (Geugeor)
  

  -

  Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur)
  

  -

  Pepe Flores (Padaguan)
  

  -

   The Wikimedia Foundation has appointed
   

   two members:
   -

  Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF)
  

  -

  Jorge Vargas (JVargas WMF)
  



The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can
appoint up to three more members  to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.

We are also in the process of creating the meta pages with more details
regarding the election and selection processes. I will follow-up in this
thread when they are available.

If you are interested in engaging with the Movement Charter drafting process
, follow the updates on
Meta 
and join the Telegram group .

With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team
-- 

Kaarel Vaidla (he/him)

Movement Strategy 

Wikimedia Foundation 
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