[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Samuel Klein]

+1, not just en:wp. I'd love to see community mods involved in maintaining
the core social accounts. We could certainly queue up messages on a
wikipage using existing scripts and tools, in a way that could be
multiplexed across different media channels (and the workflow used by
anyone federating such updates to other platforms). Slight tweaks to
ITN/DYK formats in many languages (optimizing for embeds, replies,
threading) would make great posts. [and we have solid social media stars in
the community who could help as well or guest-curate from time to time]

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 6:10 PM Nathan  wrote:

> The English Wikipedia community has managed the Main Page in English for
> many years, including rapidly updated ITN and DYK sections. The prominence
> of the Main Page has declined a little bit as a landing page, but it
> suggests that there may be better alternatives to staff planning tweets out
> a few weeks ahead and taking submissions via a Google form. Perhaps the
> communications team can look into some of these options that might leverage
> the strength and core competencies of the community?
>
> ~Nate
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 6:05 PM Lauren Dickinson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well and enjoying the new images
>> from the Webb telescope. They are truly incredible.
>>
>> In response to Lodewijk's question, the Foundation's Communications
>> Department manages the English Wikipedia social media accounts (on
>> Facebook , Twitter
>> , and Instagram
>> ), as well as the Wikimedia
>> Foundation accounts. There is more information about that on Meta-Wiki
>> .
>>
>> We try to plan the content calendar about one to two weeks in advance,
>> but we stay flexible to react to current events and Wikimedia news. We
>> always welcome ideas for articles and content to share from both the
>> Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia channels. You can share ideas with us at
>> any time via this Google Form
>> .
>> Amplifying the work of volunteers in the movement is important to us, and
>> we value suggestions on opportunities for us to do this further.
>>
>> Regarding the Webb telescope news, we are planning to share the related
>> Wikipedia article as this Friday's Article of the Week
>>  on
>> Wikipedia's social media channels, and to highlight that the images are
>> available on Commons. Every Friday, we share an article that is relevant to
>> current global events and conversations (e.g. we shared about Hajj
>>  last week),
>> so we thought the Webb telescope would be a perfect fit for this week.
>>
>> We also look for opportunities to retweet posts from others related to
>> Wikimedia and current topics. For example, we just shared this post from
>> Wikimedia Chile
>>  about the
>> Webb images. With this approach, we can share about the same topic in
>> multiple ways, from a range of perspectives, and celebrate community
>> groups. Another way is by sharing blog posts and media coverage that
>> mention us.
>>
>> With that in mind, another idea I would like to propose is a blog post
>> on Diff  that tells the story of how
>> Wikimedia communities responded to the release of the images and made sure
>> information and the photos were quickly available on Wikimedia projects.
>> This is just an idea. If anyone is interested in writing that blog, please
>> let us know! We can then amplify the post on social media to bring it more
>> visibility.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
>>
>> Lauren
>> *Lauren Dickinson (she/her)*
>> Senior Communications Manager
>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 1:43 PM effe iets anders <
>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How is @Wikipedia (and similar accounts) being managed right now? I'm
>>> mostly curious about the process how the tweets are decided upon - is this
>>> a staff-driven process or is there some community engagement? Is it planned
>>> out long in advance, or reactive (or somewhere in between)?
>>>
>>> Are there opportunities to better bolster the strengths of our community?
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:30 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>>
 We should all be answering questions :)  The public interest will only
 grow with the glorious images coming out today.

 On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
 galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Good day,
> Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called
> "Webb's Fr

[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Nathan]

The English Wikipedia community has managed the Main Page in English for
many years, including rapidly updated ITN and DYK sections. The prominence
of the Main Page has declined a little bit as a landing page, but it
suggests that there may be better alternatives to staff planning tweets out
a few weeks ahead and taking submissions via a Google form. Perhaps the
communications team can look into some of these options that might leverage
the strength and core competencies of the community?

~Nate

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 6:05 PM Lauren Dickinson 
wrote:

> Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well and enjoying the new images
> from the Webb telescope. They are truly incredible.
>
> In response to Lodewijk's question, the Foundation's Communications
> Department manages the English Wikipedia social media accounts (on
> Facebook , Twitter
> , and Instagram
> ), as well as the Wikimedia
> Foundation accounts. There is more information about that on Meta-Wiki
> .
>
> We try to plan the content calendar about one to two weeks in advance, but
> we stay flexible to react to current events and Wikimedia news. We always
> welcome ideas for articles and content to share from both the Wikimedia
> Foundation and Wikipedia channels. You can share ideas with us at any time
> via this Google Form
> .
> Amplifying the work of volunteers in the movement is important to us, and
> we value suggestions on opportunities for us to do this further.
>
> Regarding the Webb telescope news, we are planning to share the related
> Wikipedia article as this Friday's Article of the Week
>  on
> Wikipedia's social media channels, and to highlight that the images are
> available on Commons. Every Friday, we share an article that is relevant to
> current global events and conversations (e.g. we shared about Hajj
>  last week), so
> we thought the Webb telescope would be a perfect fit for this week.
>
> We also look for opportunities to retweet posts from others related to
> Wikimedia and current topics. For example, we just shared this post from
> Wikimedia Chile 
> about the Webb images. With this approach, we can share about the same
> topic in multiple ways, from a range of perspectives, and celebrate
> community groups. Another way is by sharing blog posts and media coverage
> that mention us.
>
> With that in mind, another idea I would like to propose is a blog post on
> Diff  that tells the story of how Wikimedia
> communities responded to the release of the images and made sure
> information and the photos were quickly available on Wikimedia projects.
> This is just an idea. If anyone is interested in writing that blog, please
> let us know! We can then amplify the post on social media to bring it more
> visibility.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
>
> Lauren
> *Lauren Dickinson (she/her)*
> Senior Communications Manager
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 1:43 PM effe iets anders 
> wrote:
>
>> How is @Wikipedia (and similar accounts) being managed right now? I'm
>> mostly curious about the process how the tweets are decided upon - is this
>> a staff-driven process or is there some community engagement? Is it planned
>> out long in advance, or reactive (or somewhere in between)?
>>
>> Are there opportunities to better bolster the strengths of our community?
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:30 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>
>>> We should all be answering questions :)  The public interest will only
>>> grow with the glorious images coming out today.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
>>> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Good day,
 Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called
 "Webb's Frist Deep Field" (
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webb%27s_First_Deep_Field). An article
 about the image existis in 14 languages. The tweet announcing it has
 collected in less than a day more than 77.000 RTs and 275.000 likes (
 https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546621080298835970). The main
 object of the image didn't have any article at any Wikipedia (not an item
 at Wikidata) yesterday. Now we have an article in 8 languages:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMACS_J0723.3-7327 and a category in
 Commons.

 Well, the Wikipedia twitter handle didn't tweet anything about this
 achievement, and didn't give any contest to the image. (
 https://twitter.com/wikipedia).

 We could

[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Lauren Dickinson]

Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well and enjoying the new images from
the Webb telescope. They are truly incredible.

In response to Lodewijk's question, the Foundation's Communications
Department manages the English Wikipedia social media accounts (on Facebook
, Twitter
, and Instagram
), as well as the Wikimedia
Foundation accounts. There is more information about that on Meta-Wiki
.

We try to plan the content calendar about one to two weeks in advance, but
we stay flexible to react to current events and Wikimedia news. We always
welcome ideas for articles and content to share from both the Wikimedia
Foundation and Wikipedia channels. You can share ideas with us at any time
via this Google Form
.
Amplifying the work of volunteers in the movement is important to us, and
we value suggestions on opportunities for us to do this further.

Regarding the Webb telescope news, we are planning to share the related
Wikipedia article as this Friday's Article of the Week
 on
Wikipedia's social media channels, and to highlight that the images are
available on Commons. Every Friday, we share an article that is relevant to
current global events and conversations (e.g. we shared about Hajj
 last week), so
we thought the Webb telescope would be a perfect fit for this week.

We also look for opportunities to retweet posts from others related to
Wikimedia and current topics. For example, we just shared this post from
Wikimedia Chile 
about the Webb images. With this approach, we can share about the same
topic in multiple ways, from a range of perspectives, and celebrate
community groups. Another way is by sharing blog posts and media coverage
that mention us.

With that in mind, another idea I would like to propose is a blog post on
Diff  that tells the story of how Wikimedia
communities responded to the release of the images and made sure
information and the photos were quickly available on Wikimedia projects.
This is just an idea. If anyone is interested in writing that blog, please
let us know! We can then amplify the post on social media to bring it more
visibility.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Lauren
*Lauren Dickinson (she/her)*
Senior Communications Manager
Wikimedia Foundation 


On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 1:43 PM effe iets anders 
wrote:

> How is @Wikipedia (and similar accounts) being managed right now? I'm
> mostly curious about the process how the tweets are decided upon - is this
> a staff-driven process or is there some community engagement? Is it planned
> out long in advance, or reactive (or somewhere in between)?
>
> Are there opportunities to better bolster the strengths of our community?
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:30 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:
>
>> We should all be answering questions :)  The public interest will only
>> grow with the glorious images coming out today.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
>> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good day,
>>> Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called
>>> "Webb's Frist Deep Field" (
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webb%27s_First_Deep_Field). An article
>>> about the image existis in 14 languages. The tweet announcing it has
>>> collected in less than a day more than 77.000 RTs and 275.000 likes (
>>> https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546621080298835970). The main
>>> object of the image didn't have any article at any Wikipedia (not an item
>>> at Wikidata) yesterday. Now we have an article in 8 languages:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMACS_J0723.3-7327 and a category in
>>> Commons.
>>>
>>> Well, the Wikipedia twitter handle didn't tweet anything about this
>>> achievement, and didn't give any contest to the image. (
>>> https://twitter.com/wikipedia).
>>>
>>> We could be answering questions. "By 2030, Wikimedia will become the
>>> essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge". We could be
>>> centering free knowledge at Wikimedia.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Galder
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Samuel 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Andy Mabbett]

On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 15:45, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
 wrote:

> Subject: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

See also the (unanswered) issue I raised, at:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Twitter

-- 
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[effe iets anders]

How is @Wikipedia (and similar accounts) being managed right now? I'm
mostly curious about the process how the tweets are decided upon - is this
a staff-driven process or is there some community engagement? Is it planned
out long in advance, or reactive (or somewhere in between)?

Are there opportunities to better bolster the strengths of our community?

Lodewijk

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:30 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> We should all be answering questions :)  The public interest will only
> grow with the glorious images coming out today.
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good day,
>> Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called
>> "Webb's Frist Deep Field" (
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webb%27s_First_Deep_Field). An article
>> about the image existis in 14 languages. The tweet announcing it has
>> collected in less than a day more than 77.000 RTs and 275.000 likes (
>> https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546621080298835970). The main
>> object of the image didn't have any article at any Wikipedia (not an item
>> at Wikidata) yesterday. Now we have an article in 8 languages:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMACS_J0723.3-7327 and a category in
>> Commons.
>>
>> Well, the Wikipedia twitter handle didn't tweet anything about this
>> achievement, and didn't give any contest to the image. (
>> https://twitter.com/wikipedia).
>>
>> We could be answering questions. "By 2030, Wikimedia will become the
>> essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge". We could be
>> centering free knowledge at Wikimedia.
>>
>> Best,
>> Galder
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Samuel Klein]

We should all be answering questions :)  The public interest will only grow
with the glorious images coming out today.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Good day,
> Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called
> "Webb's Frist Deep Field" (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webb%27s_First_Deep_Field). An article
> about the image existis in 14 languages. The tweet announcing it has
> collected in less than a day more than 77.000 RTs and 275.000 likes (
> https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546621080298835970). The main object
> of the image didn't have any article at any Wikipedia (not an item at
> Wikidata) yesterday. Now we have an article in 8 languages:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMACS_J0723.3-7327 and a category in
> Commons.
>
> Well, the Wikipedia twitter handle didn't tweet anything about this
> achievement, and didn't give any contest to the image. (
> https://twitter.com/wikipedia).
>
> We could be answering questions. "By 2030, Wikimedia will become the
> essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge". We could be
> centering free knowledge at Wikimedia.
>
> Best,
> Galder
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[Wikimedia-l] Sharing the Wikimedia Foundation’s Human Rights Impact Assessment

[Richard Gaines]

Hello!

In December 2021, the Wikimedia Foundation announced

our new Human Rights Policy. At the time, we also committed

to publishing more information from the Human Rights Impact Assessment
(HRIA) that helped to inform the policy. Today, I am glad to be able to
share that HRIA with you all.

Wikimedia projects play an important role in enabling people around the
world to exercise their human rights, including the right to access
knowledge. As host of these projects, the Foundation is committed to
protect and respect the human rights of all those who use our projects to
access, share, and contribute knowledge. In recognizing this critical role,
we commissioned the Human Rights Impact Assessment in 2020 to provide a
better understanding of potential human rights harms our projects may
inadvertently cause as well as recommendations to address them. We release
the report now to invite broader discussion on the report’s findings and
recommendations in order to determine which ones the Foundation should
prioritize moving forward.

You can find the assessment on Meta-Wiki
,
which includes a foreword authored by the Foundation, an executive summary
of the assessment, and a detailed analysis of the five categories of human
rights risks identified in the report (harmful content, harassment,
government surveillance and censorship, impacts on child rights, and
limitations on knowledge equity). The foreword and executive summary are
also available in Arabic
,
Chinese (Traditional)
,
French
,
Russian
,
and Spanish
.
You can also find more information about the assessment in a blog post

on Diff.

We will be hosting a series of conversation hours in the coming weeks where
we invite feedback and ask questions about the assessment:


   -

   14 July (18:00–19:30 UTC): Community Affairs Committee Meeting


   

   -

   28 July (12:00 UTC): Global Advocacy Community Conversation Hour


   
   -

   28 July (17:00 UTC): Global Advocacy Community Conversation Hour
   



We also invite questions and feedback on the discussion page

of the assessment on Meta-Wiki as well as through the Movement Strategy
Forum

.

This assessment can help all stakeholders in the Wikimedia movement to
better understand the human rights risks and threats that we jointly face,
and the work required to reduce those risks. By doing so, the Foundation,
volunteers, and affiliates can work together to protect both our movement
and our people.

We look forward to engaging with all of you on this HRIA, its
recommendations, and your thoughts on how to move forward on the insights
offered by this report.

Thank you,


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Wikimedia Foundation
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[Wikimedia-l] @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

Good day,
Yesterday, the James Webb telescope published its first image, called "Webb's 
Frist Deep Field" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webb%27s_First_Deep_Field). An 
article about the image existis in 14 languages. The tweet announcing it has 
collected in less than a day more than 77.000 RTs and 275.000 likes 
(https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1546621080298835970). The main object of 
the image didn't have any article at any Wikipedia (not an item at Wikidata) 
yesterday. Now we have an article in 8 languages: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMACS_J0723.3-7327 and a category in Commons.

Well, the Wikipedia twitter handle didn't tweet anything about this 
achievement, and didn't give any contest to the image. 
(https://twitter.com/wikipedia).

We could be answering questions. "By 2030, Wikimedia will become the essential 
infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge". We could be centering free 
knowledge at Wikimedia.

Best,
Galder
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: June 2022

[P L]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 9:11 PM The 'This Month in GLAM' team <
thismonthing...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent
> happenings within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies,
> events and more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives
> and *M*useums. You can find more information on the project at
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM.
>
> *This Month in GLAM – Issue VI, Volume XII – June 2022*
> --
>
>
> Albania report: CEE Spring 2022 in Albania and Kosovo
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Albania_report
> 
>
> Argentina report: In the middle of new projects
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Argentina_report
> 
>
> Australia report: A celebration, a commitment, an edit-a-thon: Know My
> Name returns for 2022
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Australia_report
> 
>
> Belgium report: Heritage and Wikimedian in Residence
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Belgium_report
> 
>
> Brazil report: FIRST WikiCon Brazil & Three States of GLAM
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Brazil_report
> 
>
> Croatia report: Network(ing) effect(s)
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Croatia_report
> 
>
> France report: French open content report promotion
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/France_report
> 
>
> Italy report: Opening and closing projects in June
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Italy_report
> 
>
> Kosovo report: Edit-a-thon with Kino Lumbardhi; DokuTech; CEE Spring 2022
> in Albania and Kosovo
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Kosovo_report
> 
>
> New Zealand report: West Coast Wikipedian at Large and Auckland Museum
> updates
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/New_Zealand_report
> 
>
> Poland report: Wikipedian in residence in the National Museum in Cracow;
> The next online meeting within the cycle of monthly editing GLAM meetings;
> Steps to communicate GLAM partnerships better and involve the Wikimedian
> community
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Poland_report
> 
>
> Sweden report: 100 000 memories from the Nordic Museum; Report from the
> Swedish National Archives
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Sweden_report
> 
>
> Switzerland report: Diversity in GLAM Program
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/Switzerland_report
> 
>
> UK report: Featured images and cultural diversity
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/June_2022/Contents/UK_report
> 
>
> USA report: Fifty Women Sculptors; Juneteenth Edit-a-thon; Juneteenth
> Photobooths 2022; Wiknic June 2022; New York Botanical Garden June 2022;
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

[Gnangarra]

As hubs are not replacing the relationship between affiliates and affcom,
hubs purpose is to serve its community across multiple countries.  I can
see the value in Affcom sharing some of its experiences but I caution
against the building of deeper power structures that widen the gap between
individual contributors, the BOT, and the WMF.   That gap will get even
wider once the global council is put in place, there are already
significant communication problems, made worse by the lack of project
experience within the WMF staff, its contractors, and the BOT

For many years these hubs have successfully existed outside Affcom control,
I think there should be greater respect shown to hubs for that work
treating hubs as pilots is itself disrespectful. Outside of Europe where EU
law allows cross border responsibility, hubs governance structures face
considerable legal hurdles from insurance to individuals being required to
make themselves subject to the laws of another jurisdiction to hold a
position of responsibility.



> This discussion should be naturally a discussion done by the community and
> not by the Affcom itself, naturally, like it's happening for the whole
> strategy.

I wholeheartedly support this point, these discussions need to run
independent Affcom.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 16:34, Philip Kopetzky 
wrote:

> Hi Wojciech,
>
> thanks for this statement, it will definitely be helpful to have AffCom's
> insights into the current affiliates network when talking about hubs. While
> approval by the WMF BoT is one option, wouldn't that require a hub to be a
> formal organisation? Otherwise the BoT would be involved in micro-managing
> project grants that are funding some of the hub pilots.
>
> It would also be helpful to design the process in a way that has the
> Global Council in mind where in its absence the WMF BoT acts in its
> absence, to make clear that this is only a temporary solution because of
> how slow progress on the movement charter has been in the last two years.
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 20:54, Wojciech Pędzich  wrote:
>
>> During the strategic meeting of the Affiliations Committee (AffCom) in
>> Paris on June 24-26, members discussed how AffCom may be able to support
>> the movement in relation to the upcoming Hubs pilot process. We reviewed
>> two issues – whether it was within AffCom’s remit to contribute to the
>> Hub pilot process and if so, what our involvement might look like.
>>
>> AffCom has, since its inception in 2004, worked directly with all
>> Affiliates across the movement, i.e.: User Groups, Chapters, and
>> Thematic Organizations. Our role, as it has evolved, is to support these
>> different entities as they come into being and then as they grow, ensure
>> that they integrate best practices and with a view to long-term
>> sustainability. This has provided AffCom with both a broad overview, as
>> well as a deep understanding, of the various challenges faced by
>> affiliates across a range of circumstances that include socio-cultural
>> issues and affiliate-based conflicts. Hubs are intended to function as
>> formal movement bodies constituted by existing groups and/or affiliates,
>> able to  use Wikimedia trademarks to present their association. They
>> will need to be independent, legally constituted Affiliates, recognised
>> by the Board of Trustees. This introduces a significant and exciting new
>> Affiliate model to our movement and AffCom would welcome the opportunity
>> to bring our institutional knowledge and experience to assist in their
>> development.
>>
>> Recognising the principles of subsidiarity, the committee would like to
>> offer its support as an advisory body for the Hubs piloting process,
>> working with the community to develop a process that will lead,
>> ultimately, to their approval by the WMF Board of Trustees.
>>
>>
>> Wojciech Pędzich
>> on behalf of AffCom
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

[Ilario Valdelli]

That's a good option but I suppose that the same Affcom structure must be
re-considered probably enlarging the number of members and diversifying
more in terms of representatives of the different stakeholders (including
maybe more people from the affiliates and chapters?).

This discussion should be naturally a discussion done by the community and
not by the Affcom itself, naturally, like it's happening for the whole
strategy.

Kind regards

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 8:54 PM Wojciech Pędzich  wrote:

> During the strategic meeting of the Affiliations Committee (AffCom) in
> Paris on June 24-26, members discussed how AffCom may be able to support
> the movement in relation to the upcoming Hubs pilot process. We reviewed
> two issues – whether it was within AffCom’s remit to contribute to the
> Hub pilot process and if so, what our involvement might look like.
>
> AffCom has, since its inception in 2004, worked directly with all
> Affiliates across the movement, i.e.: User Groups, Chapters, and
> Thematic Organizations. Our role, as it has evolved, is to support these
> different entities as they come into being and then as they grow, ensure
> that they integrate best practices and with a view to long-term
> sustainability. This has provided AffCom with both a broad overview, as
> well as a deep understanding, of the various challenges faced by
> affiliates across a range of circumstances that include socio-cultural
> issues and affiliate-based conflicts. Hubs are intended to function as
> formal movement bodies constituted by existing groups and/or affiliates,
> able to  use Wikimedia trademarks to present their association. They
> will need to be independent, legally constituted Affiliates, recognised
> by the Board of Trustees. This introduces a significant and exciting new
> Affiliate model to our movement and AffCom would welcome the opportunity
> to bring our institutional knowledge and experience to assist in their
> development.
>
> Recognising the principles of subsidiarity, the committee would like to
> offer its support as an advisory body for the Hubs piloting process,
> working with the community to develop a process that will lead,
> ultimately, to their approval by the WMF Board of Trustees.
>
>
> Wojciech Pędzich
> on behalf of AffCom
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

[Philip Kopetzky]

Hi Wojciech,

thanks for this statement, it will definitely be helpful to have AffCom's
insights into the current affiliates network when talking about hubs. While
approval by the WMF BoT is one option, wouldn't that require a hub to be a
formal organisation? Otherwise the BoT would be involved in micro-managing
project grants that are funding some of the hub pilots.

It would also be helpful to design the process in a way that has the Global
Council in mind where in its absence the WMF BoT acts in its absence, to
make clear that this is only a temporary solution because of how slow
progress on the movement charter has been in the last two years.

Best,
Philip

On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 20:54, Wojciech Pędzich  wrote:

> During the strategic meeting of the Affiliations Committee (AffCom) in
> Paris on June 24-26, members discussed how AffCom may be able to support
> the movement in relation to the upcoming Hubs pilot process. We reviewed
> two issues – whether it was within AffCom’s remit to contribute to the
> Hub pilot process and if so, what our involvement might look like.
>
> AffCom has, since its inception in 2004, worked directly with all
> Affiliates across the movement, i.e.: User Groups, Chapters, and
> Thematic Organizations. Our role, as it has evolved, is to support these
> different entities as they come into being and then as they grow, ensure
> that they integrate best practices and with a view to long-term
> sustainability. This has provided AffCom with both a broad overview, as
> well as a deep understanding, of the various challenges faced by
> affiliates across a range of circumstances that include socio-cultural
> issues and affiliate-based conflicts. Hubs are intended to function as
> formal movement bodies constituted by existing groups and/or affiliates,
> able to  use Wikimedia trademarks to present their association. They
> will need to be independent, legally constituted Affiliates, recognised
> by the Board of Trustees. This introduces a significant and exciting new
> Affiliate model to our movement and AffCom would welcome the opportunity
> to bring our institutional knowledge and experience to assist in their
> development.
>
> Recognising the principles of subsidiarity, the committee would like to
> offer its support as an advisory body for the Hubs piloting process,
> working with the community to develop a process that will lead,
> ultimately, to their approval by the WMF Board of Trustees.
>
>
> Wojciech Pędzich
> on behalf of AffCom
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