Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: IRC Office Hours
As a reminder, this is still scheduled for next Monday at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. Best regards, Bence On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Gayle Karen Young gyo...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hello! I'll be doing an open office hours on IRC at #wikimedia-office on January 28th. I'll talk about my first full year at WMF, and answer any questions to the degree that I'm able to about current HR practices and where I see the trajectory of needs for the coming year. I'm looking forward to meeting and chatting with people! Date: Monday, January 28 Time: 1000 PT/1800UTC In the meantime, I wish you all a very happy holiday season and a great start to 2013. :) Live long and prosper. Warm regards, Gayle -- Gayle Karen K. Young Chief Talent and Culture Officer Wikimedia Foundation p. 415.839.6885 x6691 c. 415.310.8416 www.wikimediafoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)
The correct link is vi.wikipedia.org This vi.wikipedAI.org domain should be checked out by Legal at WMF, though... Best regards, Bence On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: On vi.wikipedai.org the non mainspaces are green - maybe just a tab like that? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jérémie Roquet arkano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, 2013/1/9 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: I believe that Polish and French had special designs for it in the past, but they appear to be regular now. On the French Wikipedia, It has been bold, white on blue, then green, then we removed everything in 2009¹. How effective was it? I don't know. That's the whole problem, we didn't know either: if it had any impact, it wasn't obvious. What was sure, however, is that is wasn't pretty :) Best regards, ¹ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Sondage/Retrait_de_la_couleur_du_bouton_%C2%AB_Modifier_%C2%BB -- Jérémie ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...
Thank you Ziko – your post is great! ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations#Scope_and_names_for_movement_entities ) Best regards, Bence (P.S. AffCom is still looking for new members ready to think about the hard questions that are raised there: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Call_for_Candidates_2013 ) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On Dec 28, 2012 7:12 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi, it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded against the advice of the Wikimedia Foundations' Affiliate Committee. It is not recognized at this point. Does it have a license to use the Wikimedia trademark in its name? If you mean Wiki Med, it doesn't currently have the trademark in the name. (Wiki Med Foundation Inc.) Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Minutes of WMF Board: October 26-27, 2012, meeting
Hi Geoff, Thanks for sharing these minutes (and on a Saturday, at that!) This is probably an error in the minutes, but was Arne present at the October meeting as a trustee? Best regards, Bence On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi all, The minutes of the WMF board meeting of October 26-27, 2012, have been ratified and published here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2012-10-26 . Regards, Geoff -- Geoff Brigham General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] New Board of Wikimedia Hungary
Hi all, I just wanted to give you a short update on Wikimedia Hungary. Yesterday we held an AGM followed by an open wikimeetup in Budapest. At the AGM a new board was elected: * Péter Gervai, (User:grin), president (reelected) * Mrs. Tamás Harza (User:Replicarter), vicepresident-treasurer (reelected) * Balázs Viczián (User:Vince), executive vice president (promoted) * Dávid Rózsa (User:Vungadu), board member (newly elected, possibly taking on the additional role of spokesman) * Máté Forgács (User:Matteo55), board member (newly elected) We also approved the 2013 programme plan[1] in its current form that had been recommended for funding by the FDC. In addition the AGM approved a further 250 000 HUF to be spent on creating an award to honour those who have furthered the movement in Hungary. The important elements of the plan are that we will try to continue our successful programmes, build our capacity by opening an office with a full-time employee and celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Hungarian Wikipedia. At the meetup that traditionally follows our AGMs, we gave out the prizes of our successful literature themed contest (with 47 participants, 25% of whom were new editors, and 127 new articles created) and celebrated the 4th birthday of Wikimedia Hungary with a cake. Best regards, Bence Damokos Former VP Wikimedia Hungary [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikim%C3%A9dia_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g/2013_Programme_Plan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] (Press release) More than a hundred articles in Hungarian Wikipedia's literature contest
Hi all, I wanted to share with you a press release we issued earlier: --- More than a hundred articles in Hungarian Wikipedia's literature contest Press release, 28 November 2012 http://wikimedia.hu/wiki/IRODALOM12END Wikimedia Hungary's literature themed article writing contest held between 5 October and 20 November 2012 with an Amazon Kindle and other valuable prizes was a resounding success. The 47 participating editors wrote nearly 130 new articles, including articles about contemporary works (such as Parallel Stories by Péter Nádas, or The Museum of Innocence by Orphan Pamuk) and significant works of literary history (for instance Jin Ping Mei or the Osiris myth), as well as about authors from Nossis to Imants Ziedonis. The full list of articles is available at bit.ly/wpirodalomverseny, the results of the contest will be announced at the Wikipedian meetup held on 1 December. The contest was not only a success in expanding literary knowledge on Wikipedia but also in attracting new editors as a quarter of the contestants began editing Wikipedia during the contest. Wikimedia Hungary is grateful for everyone who participated in expanding Wikipedia and consequently free knowledge. The association is planning a number of new contest for the year 2013. --- Best regards, Bence Damokos, Wikimedia Hungary ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board vote on narrowing focus
Hi SJ, On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lodewijk, These are good questions. I expect effort will be required in the short term to delegate effectively and help move to a narrower focus. A few clarifying questions for you in return: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: * PR support by WMF PR staff when writing press releases for an international audience Do you have an example in mind of a recent press release that took advantage of this support? How useful to you find ComCom, as a list and network, compared to direct personal facilitation by WMF staff? While not recent or international; I have taken advantage of both personal WMF staff support and ComCom in the past, in slightly different circumstances. For planning a communications strategy, the direct input, coaching and concentrated involvement of a Comms manager of WMF was instrumental; while ComCom in my experience has been useful in providing advice on how to react to a situation, which required less time of any given participant. In the former case the help might have been an unmandated task, and the person providing the help did not need to be WMF staffer (after all, Wikimedia Deutschland also had similar levels of communications expertise at the time, though still no mandate to be available to the global community). One important result of this interaction (and also other similar interactions in other fields of expertise, as well as that of the WMF-funded organizational development pilot) was the transfer of skills, ways of thinking that has been useful beyond the one project in question, and has perhaps resulted in not requiring to contact WMF again. Sue's recommendations include crisis support as something to maintain, but I hope this will not be seen as exclusively crisis support, i.e. interactions between the WMF and the community will not be intentionally narrowed to the times of crisis. Grants are a good tool for problems that can be solved by money, but it is an imprecise and slow tool, e.g. to solve the above problem that one could rely on the help of WMF, would require writing a grant to engage a communications consultant (the grant would need a month to be reviewed and a week or so more for the bank transfer; the consultant would need to be found, the consultant needs to be educated about our values, an evaluation report needs to be written etc.). In the long run, when a certain region or entity is big enough it will make sense to hire a local comm person through grants, but until then the grants-only approach, without attendant focus on capacity development has the potential, I fear, to lead to lost opportunities and waste. Over time, other entities in the movement will adapt to serve the needs of the international community, but if WMF is not careful, it stands to lose a big chunk of interactions with the wider community, the resulting good relationships and more sadly the transfer of skills and experience in non-technical areas between the WMF and the volunteers might cease, leading to a less empowered and skillful volunteer base. I sincerely hope that this is not the intention or the result. * Networking support by Asaf (who to approach), specifically for global south countries and chapters to be. Do you think the WMF should be the arbiter of who to approach to connect with chapters-to-be? It seems to me that this level of support and connection could be provided well and in a variety of languages by a support network (or a community body such as AffCom or the WCA), even today. Perhaps what was meant here is that Asaf told people which WMF staffer to approach with certain requests or simply questions (e.g. for trademarks, comms help, merchandise, the WMF blog, accounting etc.). WCA and AffCom, etc. will certainly be able to provide similar assistance, but the big question is whether people at the WMF will be allowed to receive such contact (or which functions will not be), and then figuring out who can act as a substitute. (As a number of functions are available at multiple places in the movement, it is not a movement-wide tragedy if certain functions become unavailable at the WMF, but the WMF is seen as the cornerstone of the movement, if it closes off, it will lead to a readjustment of that picture. It is not necessarily all bad, it might lead to non-WMF orgs seen as more equal and responsible parts of the movement, but it might lead to certain volunteers being unserved without a default fallback to the WMF.) -- I really hope the way the WMF understands grantmaking will include a strong emphasis on proactively building the capacities of the potential grantees and not only in a pull matter, but also in a push matter where opportunities (even if technically called grants) are actively offered to the other entities. Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers
Hi Bishakha, In my opinion, given the generally curious nature of our movement, it might be a good idea to make more preparatory material for the board meetings available publicly in advance. Not necessarily as a way to allow comments or input, but as a matter of transparency. Especially for proposals that are not likely to be changed during the meeting (e.g. the technical bylaw amendments) and that will become public as a result of the board vote, it might be possible to publish them in advance without any adverse consequences, and resulting in greater transparency. (In this regard, the fact that Sue's recommendations were on Meta already was a great step; without knowing the exact deliberations that happened at the meeting, probably the bylaw amendments and the committee charters could have been made public in advance.) Best regards, Bence On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Dear Bishakha, could you please elaborate why the board has chosen for a secretive amendment procedure here, rather than sharing the proposed amendments with the community and asking their input on it? Especially where it concerns such non-trivial changes. Ok, now that the document showing old and new has finally been uploaded, I will try to answer your question. The legal team proposed that we amend the bylaws, primarily to ensure compliance with Florida non-profit laws. Since most of the changes are legal in nature, they were not referred to the community for prior input. I understand how this action can be seen as secretive or opaque, even though it may not have been intended as such. Is it also possible to see this action as reasonable, given the nature of most of the changes? Just asking! Feel free to disagree, Bishakha ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation
Dear all, I wanted to update you on behalf of the Affiliations Committee that we are now considering the application of a proposed thematic organisation active in the field of Medicine. You can see the proposal at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Medicine We would like to invite you to participate in the discussions, express your interest to join the organisation and inform your home communities about this proposal. We will be monitoring the talk page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Medicine to see if there is any new information that might influence the recognition process. If you have any related information you would like to share with the committee privately, please write to aff...@lists.wikimedia.org. A bit of background: Wikimedia thematic organisations are a new type of movement organisation, that are similar to chapters in supporting the Wikimedia mission through their activities in the real world, but instead of focusing on a given country, they focus on a given topic or theme. For more information please see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations. It is the plan of the Affiliations Committee to send out announcements of new thematic organisation applications roughly in the middle of the recognition process to allow the wider community to express any concerns they might have and to be able to join the organisation when it is founded. This is done in the hope that it will help new organisations reach critical mass earlier and that the wider community is informed about emerging entities in the movement. For more information on AffCom, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee Best regards, Bence (Chair, Affiliations Committee) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation
Hi Nemo, Hopefully people involved in the project are subscribed here and will react, as well and provide a clear definition of their aims. There are two sides to this coin: the should and the will: a thematic organisation should not have any control or power over the projects; it is a different question whether the organisation itself adopts policies and behaviors that could be seen as interfering into the internals of the project or actively avoids such behavior. See also the specific discussions on this question at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Medicine#Other http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Medicine#Liability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iridescent#arbitrary_break_2 (and above) Best regards, Bence On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the notice. Bence Damokos, 14/10/2012 19:07: A bit of background: Wikimedia thematic organisations are a new type of movement organisation, that are similar to chapters in supporting the Wikimedia mission through their activities in the real world, but instead of focusing on a given country, they focus on a given topic or theme. For more information please see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Thematic_**Organizationshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations I know what thematic organisations are, I've read [[Wikimedia Medicine]] and skimmed its talk and bylaws, I know what they've been doing and what they want to do etc., but I'm still very confused. This is some sort of meta-WikiProject, so, in short: will it be written clearly somewhere that it won't have any control or power to establish guidelines over Wikimedia projects, and so on? (Just like chapters do.) Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's statement it said all or implied anything other than having met some of Portuguese Wikipedia's top contributors? Not sure what the big deal is. The word all actually appeared in my email that Steven was replying to. He claimed that a majority of Portuguese Wikipedians being from Brazil contradicted my statement that not all (top) Portuguese Wikipedians are from Brazil. That was a straw man argument, due to all and majority not meaning the same thing. Given that this is a mailing list read by hundreds of people, would it make sense to discuss this particular grammar and word choice issue on a Meta talk page, and concentrate on the bigger issues here on the mailing list, that might be of interest to those not involved in this discussion on semantics? (On the other hand, I would like to take this opportunity to applaud everyone here; I think it is a unique achievement that our community reads every report with such a keen eye for any factual error or exaggeration. If the seemingly most interesting error we can find on the first day of perusing it is the unclear distinction between 'majority' and 'all' in it, then surely the people who put this together have done a splendid job. Still, I would prefer, if we spent our time discussing the substance, rather than the presentation.) Best regards, Bence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012
Hi Beria, I am sure Bishakha will give a more thorough answer if I am mistaken, but from what I heard from Board members when I asked the same question: the new board members fully participated in the meeting on the 11 July, but for technical reasons and simplicity's sake, they only assumed the positions of the outgoing board members at the very end of the meeting. The image hiding resolution was first taken on 11 July, if you check the history or the talk page, you will see, that Jimmy changed his vote a few days later, hence the new date. Best regards, Bence On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: If they got confirmed at July 11, (from the resolution: *This written Resolution will be effective as of July 11, 2012*) why are Phoebe and Arne voting in all other resolutions passed at the day?? And why they vote on this one: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Personal_Image_Hiding_Featurefrom July *16*? _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 25 July 2012 03:12, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, all. And apologies. This resolution approving the Wikimedia Chapters' selections to the Board of Trustees was unanimously approved, in-person, on July 11, 2012. It took much longer to publish than it should have due to a procedural issue. It has finally been published at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_appointments_July_2012 Best Bishakha ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias
Hi Denny, This is a really interesting list. Looking at the Hungarian list, I find that in many instances the duplicate interwiki link is actually commented out (in the form of !-- Source: [[en: something]] -- or !-- wrong interwikis: [[en: ..] [[fr: ..]] --), and not real duplicate links. (In some cases there are indeed duplicate links, where one concept covers two concepts in other languages.) Maybe you could refine your search algorithm to exclude commented out links, and improve your listing page by including not only the second interwiki link found for a given language, but also the first one, so it is easier to assess without having to check the article pages or source codes? In any case, the village pumps might be a good place to post a link to the lists. The Global message delivery system might help you in that: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery Best regards, Bence On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi all, I ran some analysis last week, to get some numbers out of the Wikipedia language links. One type of reports that were generated was the list of all articles in the main namespaces of the Wikipedias that link to more than one article in another language edition of Wikipedia (so called double language links). There are not that many of them (about 19,000 in total), split by language, all available here: http://simia.net/languagelinks/ Double language links are not errors per se, but they contain a few nuisances * they lead to two links in the language links list that just look the same (you have to hover over them to see that they link to different languages), which is not really optimal from the user experience side * they are not saved in the langlinks table and thus are ignored in certain reports and also in the respective export I am not sure how to reach out to the respective Wikipedia communities, or if I should at all. Should I post to their respective version of the village pump? Remembering from the time I was active on the Croatian Wikipedia, I would have appreciated that list to check the entries. I reckoned the wikipedia-l list would be the right place, but that list looks rather dead. Cheers, Denny -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
