Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org - done
Closed isn't the best word, but do most people know what 'read only' means? From: peter.southw...@telkomsa.net To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:32:56 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org - done Makes sense to me too. Peter - Original Message - From: James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org - done On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote: But we close wiki. We not set wiki read only. Why should we use another therm than the procedure is called? Because what we DO (no matter what we call it) is set it as Read Only, it is still 100% accessible you just can't edit it. I think it does make sense that 'read-only' is more understandable then 'close' which sounds like we completely shut it off and you can't read it either. James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Round 2 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!
Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the second round of the 2013 Picture of the Year competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2013) to produce a single Picture of the Year. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year were entered in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human portraits, and so much more. There are two total rounds of voting. In the first round, you voted for as many images as you liked. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in each category have continued to the final. In the final round, you may vote for just one image to become the Picture of the Year. Round 2 will end on 7 March 2014. Visit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction to learn more and vote for your favorite image. Thanks,User:MonoPicture of the Year Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!
Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2013 Picture of the Year competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2013) to produce a single Picture of the Year. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human portraits, and so much more. For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topical categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you may vote for as many images as you like. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in each category will continue to the final. In the final round, you may vote for just one image to become the Picture of the Year Round 1 will end on 7 February 2014. To vote, visit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction Thanks,User:Mono Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface
Related: There are some issues with the design of these banners, especially the floaty thing.Why are you using a table element? It's really wrong for this kind of thing. Also, please commit to just one color for the floater - the highlighting thing doesn't make sense in that space. (See a possible solution, if the icon was black with a yellow i, at http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d622k4fb2). Furthermore, that shadow is hideous - it should be blurred out some more or just eliminated - it adds little (without shadow: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0e622k4k3c, blurred shadow: http://awesomescreenshot.com/06d22k4s6f). This a) looks better and b) would probably increase conversions since it's all around brighter (but in a better-looking way). At the top, it's best looking to eliminate the shadow on the right side which looks unbalanced and increase the blur (like box-shadow: 0px 5px 10px #aaa;). See http://awesomescreenshot.com/01022k566a. I highly suggest you adopt these changes. Thanks,User:Mono Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 11:09:59 -0800 From: pcoo...@wikimedia.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface Love it! Looks like there's more than one banner too: http://imgs.xkcd.com/store_news/store_gd_g1_QG5Z.png -- Peter Coombe Fundraising Production Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation On 8 December 2013 19:52, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Largely unrelated: it looks like xkcd (http://xkcd.com) has spoofed the DEAR WIKIPEDIA READERS donation banner as part of its store campaign: http://imgs.xkcd.com/store_news/store_gd_d5_FyaR.png. :-) MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface
I also forgot to mention those annoyingly ugly 'Credit Card'/PayPal buttons with the double borders. I suggest making the border 1px solid and then reduce the border radius to 5px. User:Mono From: userm...@outlook.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:36:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface Related: There are some issues with the design of these banners, especially the floaty thing.Why are you using a table element? It's really wrong for this kind of thing. Also, please commit to just one color for the floater - the highlighting thing doesn't make sense in that space. (See a possible solution, if the icon was black with a yellow i, at http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d622k4fb2). Furthermore, that shadow is hideous - it should be blurred out some more or just eliminated - it adds little (without shadow: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0e622k4k3c, blurred shadow: http://awesomescreenshot.com/06d22k4s6f). This a) looks better and b) would probably increase conversions since it's all around brighter (but in a better-looking way). At the top, it's best looking to eliminate the shadow on the right side which looks unbalanced and increase the blur (like box-shadow: 0px 5px 10px #aaa;). See http://awesomescreenshot.com/01022k566a. I highly suggest you adopt these changes. Thanks,User:Mono Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 11:09:59 -0800 From: pcoo...@wikimedia.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface Love it! Looks like there's more than one banner too: http://imgs.xkcd.com/store_news/store_gd_g1_QG5Z.png -- Peter Coombe Fundraising Production Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation On 8 December 2013 19:52, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Largely unrelated: it looks like xkcd (http://xkcd.com) has spoofed the DEAR WIKIPEDIA READERS donation banner as part of its store campaign: http://imgs.xkcd.com/store_news/store_gd_d5_FyaR.png. :-) MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monobook was optimised for editors, Vector is more balanced between readers and edtors
How are the edit functions in Monobook more prominent than in Vector? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:24:52 +0100 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monobook was optimised for editors, Vector is more balanced between readers and edtors WereSpielChequers, 22/11/2013 08:03: But it would be interesting to see some stats on the relative retention and upgrading of editors who use monobook and Vector. The idea sounds crazy, but yes, why not, let's test this. I believe you can put your thoughts on a Meta-Wiki Research: page, describing the background, the A/B test and the proposed analysis, and then ask the WMF to run it (preferably with the consensus of the target wikis, but it's not usually considered necessary for so-called experimentations). Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives
Do you have a specific article that talks about this? Do remember the new Google Maps is still in beta. It's (still) impossible to use on older computers because it is so slow and laggy - it's possible the WMF could lobby them to keep it around. Mono From: strain...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 01:31:51 +0300 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives 2013/8/25 Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com: Google is throwing the Wikipedia layer out of Google Maps under the guise of improvement, while it actually sets several steps back in time. It is like going to the Middle Ages instead of the future. I wouldn't go *that* far. Opportunities come and go, and so are reusers of our content. This is not such a big deal for Wikipedia, I believe. It shows that commercial companies do not make decisions by looking what people like, need and want, but let the end users down. In the past such changes in software always was a moment for me to consider if there are alternatives and if possible to switch over to them. Considering this for finding a Wikipedia layer on maps, I do not know any. But I do know there is an open source alternative, just like Wikipedia, but then for maps, OpenStreetMap. We already work together in some way, we use the maps of OpenStreetMap in our Toolserver maps when we click on the coordinates on articles. Unfortunately I couldn't find any layer for Wikipedia on http://openstreetmap.org Perhaps the WMF should provide that? Kolossos has done a tremendous job with his work on the subject. Moving from the toolserver to the labs could be a good moment to increase the resource allocated to that project. I think OSM would be happy with the idea. One of their layers (the transport map) is already provided by a third party AFAIK. I think it would be good if we as Wikimedia would broaden our use of and connections with OpenStreetMap and let both communities work together more. (It is unlikely to happen I think, but OpenStreetMap would be perfectly under the wing of WMF, just as Wikivoyage.) No it wouldn't. The OSM Foundation has proven in many ways superior to the WMF (consider only the way licence change was approached on their and and on the WMF wikis...). Perhaps some of this image is due to cultural differences between Europe and the US (me being biased towards the European model), but I don't think so. Also, compared to Wikivoyage, OSM has far superior visibility. We should strive on working together with OpenStreetMap, we supplement each other. Have a nice weekend, Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)
There's been a long-term conflict with volunteers staff on wikimediafoundation.org. As a user, I understand. Each staff member likes to keep everything their way. They frequently revert changes (take a look at the discussion and user talk pages, especially for MZMcBride) on 'staff authority'. This is a logical next step against these users (most likely MZ) so there's no conflict. Is this a bad thing? Most likely not. Is the reason behind it a bad thing? Yes. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: (Inline comments most likely, So shoot me) On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: … But, my understanding is also that occasionally volunteers have overridden decisions made by staff on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki. I don't think that's ever been a huge problem: … Can you expand on this? I haven't really involved in foundationwiki and I'm not going to go check all the edits for this, But this seems like a kindly odd-shaped argument in my view. (The only time I was involved with a staff-vol spat on wmfwiki, is when the staff member decided the to need to take it to another wiki and then onto IRC as well, where I and others had to bug staff members to find out whom they were reporting to) I highly doubt volunteers are just randomly undoing edits of staff just because, We should be looking at the underlining issues behind this, with what they are trying to fix and improving the workflow of staff and volunteers. Just /randomly/ revoking seems counter-proactive and detrimental to this. … So I would say this: This decision is not about the community versus the WMF. This decision is about the WMF staff, and making it possible for them to do their work on the WMF wiki with some reasonable degree of efficiency and effectiveness. How many staff members that have jobs that rely on editing foundationwiki? I did a quick scan of the last ~1000 or so edits and really couldn't see any examples that stood out, If a volunteer changes a staff edit, Yes it should be looked at but there is generally a good reason (I've seen plently of staff members editing other wikis that are clueless about the wiki world and people have been fixing up their edits), And just removing admin rights doesn't seem to have anything to do with that at all, Because the volunteers can still edit (afaik the only rights they really loose are delete and protect now) … This decision clarifies roles-and-responsibilities… Not really, It was done randomly and at the end of a Friday when most of the foundation stops working for the weekend, with lack of meaningful communication to those involved (or in some cases, communication at al), Personally it leaves more questions than anything. … Personally, I feel like we're moving into a period now in which things are getting clearer. We don't pay staff to edit the projects: I know at least one staff on a project, that has a bit to do with there work, and has been directed to append staff to all their edit summaries. -Crazed ramblings out, Peachey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: There's been a long-term conflict with volunteers staff on wikimediafoundation.org. As a user, I understand. Each staff member likes to keep everything their way. They frequently revert changes (take a look at the discussion and user talk pages, especially for MZMcBride) on 'staff authority'. This is a logical next step against these users (most likely MZ) so there's no conflict. Is this a bad thing? Most likely not. Is the reason behind it a bad thing? Yes. Nathan wrote: If the conflict was primarily with MZMcBride (which seems to be the case), then it was a bit cowardly to overhaul the entire scheme on the site in order to avoid telling him to knock it off. What'd I do? MZMcBride MZMcBride, when I originally wrote this I was referencing nothing in particular. I was just observing a pattern of reversions and conflicts between you, me, staff others. Looking at the history of your talk page on wmfwiki (and mine), this can be found. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Thomas Goldammer tho...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, this was definitely a huge brick they dropped there... It seems, the WMF needs to hire someone (a diplomat) to counsel them about actions towards the volunteers. (Seriously!) Or was there any sort of emergency that made an immediate action indispensable? (A soon explanation by Gayle would certainly be helpful there.) Th. There was no emergency. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page
Yes, but it might be nice if we could let people pay trusted editors to improve articles (without a COI and with a NPOV) that normally wouldn't get attention. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hkwrote: Because we've decided that [[WP:Ownership of articles]] is wrong, and wronger if there's financial sponsorship involved. On 29 March 2013 22:36, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've just seen an OTRS ticket asking why isn't Wikipedia giving its pages for adoption (like when you adopt a page and your name ends up on its cage or something like that). I've moved the ticket to the donations queue, but I was wondering if this has ever been discussed/considered before. Thanks, Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page
How so? On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On Mar 30, 2013 12:55 AM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but it might be nice if we could let people pay trusted editors to improve articles (without a COI and with a NPOV) that normally wouldn't get attention. Would that be nice? I think that would be very harmful... ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement
I think it's necessary for the Foundation to both provide a copy and explain the necessity of the NDA for transparency and legal/ethical reasons, especially if they are asking volunteers to sign them. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: MZMcBride wrote: As I understand it, many Wikimedia Foundation employees are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). Is there a copy of the current version of this non-disclosure agreement anywhere? I briefly checked Meta-Wiki and wikimediafoundation.org, but didn't see anything off-hand. I'm still looking for a copy of the Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement. Does anyone know who might be able to provide a copy for Meta-Wiki? There's a very sad index of Wikimedia-related NDAs here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NDA. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2012 Picture of the Year
-picture-of-the-year/ . Apologies that the link had not been posted here yet. The latest posts are always displayed on https://blog.wikimedia.org/ , and usually also announced on social media (Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook, Google+), as was this one. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Congratulations to everyone involved! Will the link to the blog post be shared when it's published? Would be great to share it with the UK folks. Thank and regards, Stevie On 23 February 2013 23:26, Guillaume Goursat guillaume.gour...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Thank you to the commitee, the voters and all the editors who have uploaded a picture in 2012 :-) I want also to congratulate all the folks in Wikimedia France who have helped to produce the winning picture, with the project Phoebus [1] :-) Guillaume [1] : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Projet_Phoebus 2013/2/24 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il Just want to congratulate and thanks everyone who been part of the committee this year. Last year I criticized the long process and the fact that we published the winners only in the middle of the year. This year the announcement came kind of the beginning of the year. So good job! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: On behalf of the 2012 Picture of the Year committee, I'm proud to announce the seventh Picture of the Year. About 4,000 Wikimedia editors helped select this marvelous image, shattering previous turnout records. You can view the top 12 results right now on Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results . Stay tuned for a blog post on the Wikimedia blog and an upcoming 2014 calendar from the top 12 images. The contest is a fun and enjoyable event that not only celebrates our excellent photographers and illustrators, but everyone who contributes to Wikimedia. You are encouraged to donate your own work to the Wikimedia Commons as our library of freely licensed media files grows past 16 million files. Thank you for your participation! User:Mono POTY 2012 Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* (নুরুন্নবী চৌধুরী হাছিব) Facebook Fan Page: NCH http://www.facebook.com/itsNCH Bangla Wikipedia user : nhasive http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Nhasive FB http://www.facebook.com/nhasive :: Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/nhasive:: Skype: nhasive http://www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2014 calendar of POTY 2012 top twelve
It's coming. Stay tuned. Get notified. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Calendar Thanks, User:Mono On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:16 PM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: (: A 2014 calendar of the top twelve from the 2012 POTY contest would be a great addition to the Wikimedia shop! Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikizine] This Week: A Brief Summary
After years of publication, Wikizine is changing once again. Brief news is always available at Wikizine.org Suggestions are welcome; please send them to monom...@gmail.com Want to write for Wikizine? Fill out the form at http://wikizine.org/write Otherwise, send tips to http://wikizine.org/submit Top stories this week: WMF executive director Sue Gardner interviewed by The Telegraph in Sydney, Australia. Read it at http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/data-plans-unnerving-wikipedia-boss/story-e6freuz0-1226576326861 Highlights from January 2013, including individual grants, a data center migration, and the launch of Wikivoyage, was published at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/17/wikimedia-highlights-january-2013/ The Wikimedia Foundation has called their lawsuit against Internet Brands a 'victory for Wikivoyage and free knowledge over the ability to fork Wikitravel. *The Signpost *has in-depth coverage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-02-18/News_and_notes Wikimedia is lookinghttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-February/123987.htmlfor a new member of the Board of Trustees to fill the appointed seat vacated by Matt Halprin. The search is being conducted by an outside agency. Smartphone photographers: join the WikiCommons mobile uploads testing week, starting on Feb 25 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_QA/Commons_uploads The 2012 Picture of the Year was announced after 3990 votes in Round 2. View all the results at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results Wikimedian Quote “Wikipedia’s world is a beautiful world. You can see all cultures of the world through the window of a language that you know.” - Doaa Seifhttp://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Doaasaifeldine of Egypt Wikizine.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] 2012 Picture of the Year
On behalf of the 2012 Picture of the Year committee, I'm proud to announce the seventh Picture of the Year. About 4,000 Wikimedia editors helped select this marvelous image, shattering previous turnout records. You can view the top 12 results right now on Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Results. Stay tuned for a blog post on the Wikimedia blog and an upcoming 2014 calendar from the top 12 images. The contest is a fun and enjoyable event that not only celebrates our excellent photographers and illustrators, but everyone who contributes to Wikimedia. You are encouraged to donate your own work to the Wikimedia Commons as our library of freely licensed media files grows past 16 million files. Thank you for your participation! User:Mono POTY 2012 Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop
This is rather silly - we have people complaining about the name Wikimedia being near Wikipedia (oh no!) and complaining about FedEx and airports. The real question is below. *Is it appropriate to risk the very real risk of banner blindness for the shop?* Where do we draw the line? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Hello, Here in the Netherlands the banner can be seen e.g. on de.wikipedia.org. I don't know what to think about it, it makes a commercial impression similar to an advert (which it actually is). Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)
On vi.wikipedai.org the non mainspaces are green - maybe just a tab like that? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jérémie Roquet arkano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, 2013/1/9 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: I believe that Polish and French had special designs for it in the past, but they appear to be regular now. On the French Wikipedia, It has been bold, white on blue, then green, then we removed everything in 2009¹. How effective was it? I don't know. That's the whole problem, we didn't know either: if it had any impact, it wasn't obvious. What was sure, however, is that is wasn't pretty :) Best regards, ¹ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Sondage/Retrait_de_la_couleur_du_bouton_%C2%AB_Modifier_%C2%BB -- Jérémie ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)
I'm sorry, but that is rather ugly. However, a new Wikipedia interface could definitely make the read/edit switcher more prominent or we could have a echo-style popup. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2013/1/9 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com: Hi there, everybody speaks here about editor retention and how we dont know the reasons for editing decline. What about highlighting the the edit tab some special color (maybe red) like this: Similar things were done in Wikipedias in several languages. The edit link is bold in Catalan (ca), Basque (eu) and Croatian (hr). It is even more emphasized in Low German (nds). I believe that Polish and French had special designs for it in the past, but they appear to be regular now. How effective was it? I don't know. Doing an A/B test of this should be quite easy, and can be done in any language. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long
Zack, thank you for your response. I believe you have appropriately address my concerns and the concerns of the community. Banners are necessary, but continuing the complaints about the sticky banners is not necessary. Two formats beside persistent horizontal banners located at the top and bottom that might be nice are inline banners. By placing clearly marked banners in a gray space between sections should be tried and sidebar appeals should also be tested, an idea developed but never deployed. Finally, empty space around the Vector interface (for example next to the article feedback area) would be a nice place for fundraising appeals. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: OK, so we're going to stop the banner sticking for now -- and to compensate we're going to show newcomers two banner impressions instead of one and that should be sufficient to close out the fundraiser. (Let me know if it's not clear what I mean by that.) If it looks like we're going to fall short, however, we might have to go back to sticking this year. Next year, we'll discuss options and do some surveys of logged in and not-logged-in users and try to make a good decision about what the least painful way for all will be to raise the money. I think that we're now in a position to raise the annual budget with very little user pain starting in 2013 -- perhaps the least pain is that everyone gets 5 banners per year that are very small and non-stick. Or maybe it's that everyone gets one slightly larger, sticky banner. It's subjective, and we need to listen to a real cross section of users about it. I am grateful for all the good faith shown over the years to the fundraising team at WMF as we've experimented in different directions that have sometimes been painful to get to this point. Zack On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: The upshot is, vocal Wikimedians on mailing lists hate banners, and are quite willing to sternly lecture about their dire consequences! It's left to the Foundation, then, to choose between large numbers of donations from happy donors and unamused mailing list participants. Tough call. My own opinion closely mirrors that of Michael Snow, so I'll quote what he said: That's not to say that I necessarily agree with all of the decisions that went into the current banners as to aesthetics or content. But I also don't have the expertise or all of the data that's behind those decisions, which is why I tend to reach a similar conclusion as Ziko. I trust that the fundraising team will attempt to balance all of these considerations, that they do listen to the concerns people have, and that they will make the best choices they can in light of the information available. Keeping that in mind usually helps me as I reflect on whether my own concerns are merely matters of personal taste or something more important. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Zack Exley Chief Revenue Officer Wikimedia Foundation 415 506 9225 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Hello, After all the experience and A/B-testing, I have confidence in the banners. My personal taste wouldn't matter. Kind regards Ziko Yes, but brighter doesn't mean better. The A/B testing results apparently show a small difference between bright yellow and something more subtle like http://awesomescreenshot.com/0dcogli4f As another person said, the thing we are selling to people is an ad-free encyclopedia, yet we are using some of the most hated web banner techniques like pullouts, floaters, and painfully bright colors. Even the original facts banner in a blue was better - on every screen I've seen, I want to get rid of that banner as fast as possible. Wikipedia content is pretty plain and that banner is bright yellow. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] BBC: Gibraltar targets tourists with Wikipedia QR codes
Gibraltar is embracing Wikipedia and QR codes. More at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19544299 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
They have no financial means or interest in doing so, Deryck. They are a design studio trying to push their work to prospective employers. Although they could serve ads alongside the content, they do not have the advertising budget to facilitate any sort of uptake. Plus, they could never compete in Google. The only way Wikipedia's interface will improve is if we demand to improve it. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote: Keyhole solution: The MediaWiki API and Wikipedia copyright and trademark licences allow Wikipedia Redefined to implement their ideas already. It will, of course, be marketed as an alternative browsing and editing device like AWB currently is. If there's enough uptake, it's never too late for WMF to buy them up :) On 5 September 2012 22:11, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670648/a-promising-wikipedia-overhaul-designed-to-squash-info-overload#1 A follow-up article on the redesign. Excerpt: ---o0o--- So, will we all be able to enjoy this clear and concise online experience anytime soon? Kazlauskas put the odds at a discouraging, and definitive, “zero chance,” even though the response has been positive. “So far the reaction of people at Wikipedia--creators, not users, mind you--is they are not ready for anything radical,” he says (and the whole endeavor reminds me a bit of Wired’s similar attempt to updating Craigslist http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/17-09/ff_craigslist_makeover for a feature package a few years ago). Despite the unlikelihood of implementation, the team still sees an opportunity to leverage what they’ve done for an audience who would no doubt welcome the opportunity to tool around with the slick style. “We are already working on app which will use new interface to read Wikipedia,” Kazlauskas explains. “We’ll see how that goes and if anyone’s interested.” What say you, knowledge-seekers? ---o0o--- Personally, I would welcome third-party offers of alternative skins. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
I personally think the Foundation should spend money and time on developing a new interface like this. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Never having been to design school like Amir, I can't comment on what grade it might get. But I do like it a lot; I think it's a serious improvement over what we use now, and incorporates design principles that we should adopt even if we don't take the design itself. The visual elements, the better branding and identification of sister projects, and the modern feel / look are all elements that can be adapted. I'd love to see more of these complete redesign proposals with a professional feel. The current 2012 main page redesign proposals are almost uniformly amateurish, and many make only the most minimal adjustments. More importantly, they are aimed only at the main page - what needs to be updated is really the entire thing. 10 years on and the editing interface is still shit, and the design is still aimed at satisfying lowest common denominator concerns. Time for a new approach, if only Wikimedia had a Steve Jobs on staff. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Should we lock StrategyWiki?
Should we lock StrategyWiki as historical? Some options: A) Prevent all editing and keep content at current address. B) Restrict editing to admins and keep content at current address. C) Move content to Meta and mark as historical, lock editing. D) Move content to Meta and leave it open. E) Do nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features
Tom, has a reputable news source actually verified this? Even Wikipedia editors know that HuffPost isn't reliable... On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: On 16 April 2012 18:41, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, how do we want to work on editor retention if we lack social features at all??? These go in the right direction: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Improving_our_platform http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_features Is WMF going to act finally??? Only with community approval. On English Wikipedia, we have discussed social media/social network integration repeatedly. Share This buttons and so on. And editors don't want it. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PEREN#Share_pages_on_Facebook.2C_Twitter_etc . English Wikinews already has some, but there's a much smaller community there who can decide which services we wish to integrate with. If we're going to have social features (and I use that word with deliberate scare quotes around it) mandated by the Foundation, I do hope we are going to worry about privacy. A former co-worker of mine discovered that NHS Direct, the health information website provided the UK's National Health Service, had Facebook share this links that were transmitting every page you went to on NHS Direct to Facebook, which could be matched to your Facebook profile if you are logged in. Which is kind of shocking given that people use NHS Direct to look up information on health conditions they think they might have, as well as all sorts of other personal issues (sexual health, gender identity, advice on fixing lifestyle health issues like smoking and drinking). I wouldn't want the clickstream of people visiting Wikipedia articles shared on Facebook without them pretty explicitly choosing to share that information. We've already seen one kid in Britain who has allegedly been thrown out of his house by fundamentalist parents after Facebook algorithmically outed him as gay. [1] I do also hope we'd decide on what basis we'd choose these social services. Okay, yes, Facebook is pretty popular in the West. And Twitter. And maybe G+. But what about in China: do we want to support sharing to sites that are being censored by the Chinese government? Does the Foundation have the expertise to know what the popular social networking sites are in every country and language in the world? And we'd then become a commercial player: if we had done this years ago and had added MySpace integration, the moment MySpace stops being so popular and Wikipedia (whether that's the community or the Foundation) de-emphasizes the MySpace sharing/social functionality, there'd be a big stack of headlines about how Wikipedia is pulling out of MySpace. We really ought to be neutral in this market, and there's only one way to be neutral: try as hard as possible not to participate. You know, there might be an easier solution here: people who are into the whole social networking thing, their browsers ought to improve sharing with their social networks. Social plugins for browsers like Firefox and Chrome are opt-in for the user, and can give a better experience than Wikipedia pages being turned into NASCAR-esque branded adverts for dozens of social sites. I know Mozilla people have been discussing coming up with better ways of doing social sharing at the browser level. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/facebook-targeted-advertising-gay-teen_n_1200404.html -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
