[Wikimedia-l] Re: A Case for Mobile Editing

2024-06-27 Thread Sohom Datta
@Clovermoss, any reason you tried the app over the mobile web interface
with/without the advanced mode?

I think there is still a long way to go for either mobile editing interface
to gain feature parity with the desktop experience but (in my experience)
the mobile web interface is much much more feature-rich and usable from an
editing standpoint than the app. Another one that I've been recommended for
mobile editing is Jdlrobson's responsive vector22 user script
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jdlrobson/responsiveVector2022.js> (if
you use v22). It allows you to use the default web interface on mobile, and
that tends to be my daily driver if I want to do a quick bit of editing
during my commute.

Regards,
Sohom Datta
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 1:21 PM Clover Moss 
wrote:

> Hi Pavan. Thank you for sharing. I've also written about mobile editing [
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss/Mobile_editing]. I agree
> that mobile editing is important to consider and I appreciate your
> perspective on this.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 9:33 a.m. Pavan Santhosh via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Fellow Wikimedians,
>>
>> I am Pavan Santhosh, an Indian Wikimedian and Program Manager of CIS-A2K.
>> [1] I would like to share my recent article on the Diff titled "A Case
>> for Mobile Editing
>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/13/a-case-for-mobile-editing/>".
>>
>> The article discusses the challenges faced by users, particularly in the
>> Global Majority countries, when editing Wikipedia on mobile devices.
>> Despite the increasing number of mobile internet users, the current mobile
>> editing tools are not user-friendly, limiting effective contributions. It
>> emphasizes the need for improving mobile editing features to enhance
>> inclusivity and accessibility.
>>
>> I believe this is crucial for the advancement of the Wikimedia movement
>> and would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions on the aspects
>> discussed in my article.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pavan Santhosh,
>> Program Manager,
>> CIS-A2K.
>>
>> [1} https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few years now.

2023-08-01 Thread Sohom Datta
>
> Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
> Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
> need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
> https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome


This has already been done for a while.


> for what I've read, it suffices to generate a sitemap file with MediaWiki
> and how to submit it to Google. There is a script for
> that: generateSitemap.php.
>
Once done, the sitemap has to be updated regularly in order to include the
> new pages.


I did look into this, but it seems like we do not generate sitemaps for any
sites right now ? The closest I got was
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198965 which mentions that we did
generate them around 2018 and hosted them on sitemaps.wikimedia.org,
however they were recently (in Jun 2023) deleted due to the sitemaps being
out of date and not helping our SEO rankings for Wikipedia.

Also while digging this up right now, I came across
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332101#8898869 which assumes that Google
uses a RCFeed/EventStreams API provided by the Wikimedia Foundation to
index pages. Is this true in the case of Wikisource, could it be possible
that they (Google) might not be using this for Wikisource and/or Wikisource
pages are getting filtered out (on Wikimedia Foundation's end) due to some
configuration error ?

Regards,
Sohom Datta
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On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:59 PM Amir Sarabadani  wrote:

> See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607#8846296 and onwards
>
> Am Di., 1. Aug. 2023 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Lauren Worden <
> laurenworde...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
>> Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
>> need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
>> https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome
>>
>> -LW
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:53 AM Dušan Kreheľ 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hm.
>> >
>> > Page: La akonca (1888) (be.wikisource.org)
>> > Created day with the last modification: 17:26, 7 July 2023‎ CEST
>> > Indexed by Google: 7. júl 2023 18:21:14 UTC
>> >
>> > Not indexed: https://be.wikisource.org/wiki/Alkahol_(1913)
>> >
>> >
>> > 2023-08-01 8:47 GMT+02:00, Bodhisattwa :
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > Apologies for cross-posting.
>> > >
>> > > For those who have not noticed till now, Google is not indexing any
>> > > Wikisource language editions for the last couple of years which
>> practically
>> > > means that any Wikisource contents in any languages, which are being
>> > > created in these years, are not searchable on Google and hence largely
>> > > remain invisible on the web.
>> > >
>> > > This is an extremely demotivating and frustrating situation for the
>> > > existing Wikisource volunteers to witness, draining away all of our
>> past
>> > > and current efforts to bring and retain viewers, readers, GLAM
>> partners and
>> > > any potential new editors. We already have a very low awareness and
>> > > visibility about Wikisource among general internet users due to lack
>> of
>> > > organized support in these years but the invisibility on Google search
>> > > engine could become the last nail in our coffin, unless it is fixed
>> soon.
>> > >
>> > > There is a phabricator ticket raised by Darwinius back in December
>> 2022 -
>> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607.
>> > >
>> > > Can't this issue be put into priority by sys admins and WMF to work
>> upon?
>> > > Wikisource is still a sister project of Wikimedia and it needs some
>> very
>> > > basic care, after all.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Bodhisattwa
>> > > (Bengali Wikisource volunteer)
>> > >
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