[Wikimedia-l] Re: Le rapport annuel 2022 de Wikimedia Guinée est sorti !

[Thierry Coudray]

Bravo pour le travail et pour faire vivre la francophonie en l'annonçant en
français sur cette liste internationale où l'anglais a tendance à trop
écraser la diversité linguistique du mouvement Wikimedia.

*and for those who don't read this beautiful French language... *;)
Good work and thanks for keeping the Francophonie alive by announcing it in
French on this international list where English tends to crush the
Wikimedia movement linguistic diversity.

Thierry/TCY

Le jeu. 16 mars 2023 à 13:23, Mermoze ADODO  a écrit :

> Toutes mes félicitations pour ce beau travail. Très bon courage à vous.
> Cordialement
>
> Le jeu. 16 mars 2023 à 09:03, Aboubacar Keïta  a
> écrit :
>
>> Bonjour chers Wikimédiens,
>>
>> Nous sommes très heureux de partager enfin avec vous le rapport du groupe
>> d'utilisateurs de Wikimedia Guinée Conakry, détaillant les différentes
>> activités auxquelles les membres du groupe ont participé en 2022, ainsi que
>> des informations sur les différents projets qui ont été menés à la fois en
>> ligne et hors ligne dans le pays. Veuillez trouver le rapport sur ce lien
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Si vous avez des questions ou souhaitez en savoir plus sur les activités
>> en Guinée, ou souhaitez vous vous associer à nous, n'hésitez pas à nous
>> contacter à: wikimedia...@gmail.com
>>
>> Merci et bon début de semaine !
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cordialement
>> *Aboubacar Keita
>> *
>>
>> * Président *
>> *Adresse: *Yattaya Marché *, Ratoma,
>> Conakry*
>>
>> *Téléphone** : *+ 224 628 09 71 55 <+224628097155> - 654 30 70 40
>> *De:  *Wikimedia.GIN
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Rwanda

[Thierry Coudray]

Congratulations for this Rwandan new user group.

But, as a lover of my French language and a defender of Francophonie, I was
a little sad to read "*that the group aim [...] to promote free and open
access to knowledge locally in Kinyarwanda & English*" understanding in
that sentence (I hope I'm wrong) that the government of Rwanda's policy of
eradicating the French language has succeeded even within Wikimedian
projects...

Thierry


Le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 à 09:44, Camelia Boban  a
écrit :

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] *Wikimedia Community User Group* *Rwanda *[2] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to improve articles on Wikimedia Foundation project
> websites and promote free and open access to knowledge locally in
> Kinyarwanda & English. They also invest in projects that sensitize and
> train different communities in Rwanda about Wikipedia with much emphasis on
> Kinyarwanda Wikipedia*.*
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Rwanda
>
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Rwanda
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Camelia Boban*
> *Chair*
>
> *Affiliation *
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[Wikimedia-l] "The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors"

[Thierry Coudray]

"*The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking contributors*".
This harsh sentence is the translation of a statement in French, I've just
said in a conversation a week ago at the Francophone Wikiconvention held
last weekend in Brussels. The statement may seem excessive, because the
Foundation does things for the Francophone community as well as for other
communities (and its website is fairly well translated into French). But it
reflected my feeling, shared by my three interlocutors, all non-French,
facing that no Foundation high-level members were present to this
Wikiconvention: no executive director, nor members of the Board, nor any
level-C staff. In an another conversation, where the subject came up over
again, someone said this absence was offensive. I do not know if it
reflects the majority of attendees feelings but with varying degrees, I
would said it was widely shared.

In 2017, for the Francophone Wikiconvention in Strasbourg we had a very
quick visit of Katherine Maher, in 2018, a simple video message and in 2019
... nothing. At the same time, the Francophone Wikiconvention has stepped
up with ever more participants, always more countries represented. This
year, it brought together more than 220 Francophones, Algerian, Belgian,
Beninese, Cameroonian, Canadian, French, Guinean, Ivorian, Swiss and
Tunisian contributors, and I may forget some, with varied and enriching
conferences and meetings. A huge success, very well organized by employees
but also by several volunteers, who dedicated time and energy. This
Wikiconvention and the projects and achievements submitted have shown the
French-speaking Wikimedia community vitality, which will continue to grow.
FYI, French is foreseen, thanks to Africa, to be the most rapidly growing
languages in the next twenty years and will be the mother tongue or the
language used for communication for more than 8% of the world's population
in thirty years' time. But my reaction would have been the same if I had
attended an Arabic, Chinese, Spanish, Swahili-speaking or any other
important languages Wikiconvention.

So yes, this Wikiconvention is not in English. Fortunately, not all
Wikimedia meetings are in English. In a previous discussion on this mailing
list about the question of whether or not it is appropriate to continue
Wimania, one of the participants argued that unlike other Wikimedia
meetings, anyone could attend Wikmania. It may be obvious for those who
have English as a mother tongue or for Northern Europeans for whom English
is almost a second mother tongue but this is false: English is spoken only
by a small minority in the world, less than one human in six. So only one
human in six or seven could attend Wikimania or any other english-speaking
conferences or meetings (the case of the vast majority of global Wikimedia
conferences). I do not deny a common working language usefulness but a
Wikiconvention in French, as I hope other languages ones will be more to
come soon, allows all non-English speaking Francophones to participate in
the Wikimedia movement and above all, help them to meet our common goal of
spread freeknowledge.The movement talks a lot about its efforts to overcome
differents gaps (gender, LGBT,...) and it's rightly pointed, these topics
are important. But it simply forget the language gap and the almost
exclusive use of English excludes a very large majority.

So why no high level Foundation members in Brussels ?
I was told that Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement,
should initially be there but finally told she will not. But then, no other
member could then replace her and why only one Foundation representant
given the part of French language in the WM projects ? Perhaps no Foundation
Board or high level member speaks French or feels she/he speaks good enough.
But with more than 220 attendants at the FWC, it would have been easy to
find volonteers with a good level of English to provide simultaneous
translation in discussions with other non-English speaking participants or to
translate conferences.A higher-level representation would have helped the
Foundation top level to gain more insight into Wikimedian French-speaking
community and enabled this community to have a direct access to the
Foundation, like in Wikimania. That would have helped bridging the gap
between these "two worlds". Because this gap is real. In the 2011 Finance
Meeting in Paris, during workshops where a Board member was in each
group (Jan-Bart
de Vreede for mine), me and another non english-speaking chapter head (she/he
will recognize her/himself) had made the comment that we had the impression
in our relation with the Foundation of "*colliding with an Anglo-Saxon wall*".
I notice that despite more Foundation staff diversity in recent years,
French speaking organizations would probably still have the same feeling
and clearly many French-speaking wikimedians feel that gap.

It is sad that the Foundation, which is very demanding with 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Impact study WMFr 2018

[Thierry Coudray]

Rémy,

Serait-il possible aussi de mettre la version originale en français sur
Commons ? Histoire de permettre une plus grande diffusion et de ne pas
accentuer l'anglo-centrisme de Wikimédia.  :)
Merci.

Could it be possible to upload the French original version on Commons ? So
we can have a wider diffusion and not enlarge the English speaking bias of
Wikimedia.  :)
Thanks

Thierry


Le ven. 22 févr. 2019 à 10:39, Rémy Gerbet  a
écrit :

> Hello,
>
> In 2018, Wikimedia France has experienced a significant restructuring phase
> with a new turnover with a new Board and a new organization of the salaried
> team following the unfortunate events that occurred in 2017.
>
> In this context, Wikimedia France has requested the expertise of an agency
> specialized in impact study to review our indicators and to better value
> the impact of our activities. This agency, called Agence phare, worked with
> many associative actors and seemed to quickly understand the issues
> specific to our movement.. n the spirit of sharing dear to our movement, I
> am sending you today the final report
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89tude_d%27impact_de_l%27Agence_Phare_2018.pdf
> >
> prepared by this agency which we had translated into English.
>
> Maybe, it will interest some of you.
>
> I am at your disposal if you have any questions.
>
> Best,
>
>
> *Gerbet Rémy*
>
> *Coordinateur opérationnel/Operational coordinator **07 84 37 91 04*
> *---**-*
>
> *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
> *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> *40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*
> 
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[Wikimedia-l] 2 millions articles for the French Wikipedia

[Thierry Coudray]

Hi folks,

La grande nouvelle du jour / the big news today : the French Wikipedia
reached two millions articles a few hours ago  !

The fr.wp community has written a press release for this milestone with
subpages for more explanations and get new people to edit WP.
and, off course, a commemorative logo community will be displayed.

Merci à tous les contributeurs / Thanks for all the editors.


https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spécial:Statistiques

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Deux_millions_d'articles_en_français


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[Wikimedia-l] Réponse à Samuel Legoff, président de Wikimédia France / Answer to Samuel Legoff, president of Wikimedia France

[Thierry Coudray]

Hello folks,

It has been a long time since I have written on this list. More than for 4
years. And I thought I would never write again especially about Wikimedia
France.

For those who do not know me, I'm a former board member, treasurer
(2010-2011) and executive director (2012) of Wikimedia France, a current HR
consultant and a quite long time Wikipedian (2005, user:TCY), a project I'm
still involved and which I care.

During those last weeks former WMFr employees,  WMFr members, even some I
do not know, have contacted me to know if I'm aware of the current WMFr
situation, to find out what I think about it and to find out what to do as
well. If it's gratifying to be recognised, both for my skills and the work
I have done for WMFr  in the light of my  hasty departure of Wikimedia
France in december 2012, I stayed deliberately away. First because I have a
duty of reserve and, for my part, I've strictly followed it. But especially
because I've turned the page of Wikimedia France even if I had to
restrain myself
when I saw what had happened to the great salaried team I had managed.

But a number of things made me think:
- the latest developments of what could unfortunately be called the WMFr
affair or WMFrGate with the revolt of many members  facing Wikimedia France
adrift,
- the risk of a divorce between French wikipedian community and Wikimedia
France with the resentment of some WP editors (for example, a call for a
boycott, fortunatly not yet significant, for the next fundraising which a
part funds Wikimedia France) and while a national chapter is useful to
support Wikimedia subjetcs.
- but above all, the risk that the Wikipedia in French will be damaged when
this affair will be released to the media. And it will be, I've already
been contacted by two journalists  (I did not speak with any of them : one
I really trusted but we did not find the time between our busy schedules
for sharing, and the other one, I did not trust her and I ignored her phone
call).

The recent and staggering Samuell Legoff's e-mail convinced me to break my
four year silence.

I will answer  the e-mail in a kind of "open answer" . I would have
prefered to post to Wikimedia France mailing list but this list is closed
for the next 10 days and the WMFr member which has accepted to forward it,
told me, even with the list opened again, my e-mail would have been
censored. As Samuel's e-mail has been forwarded, translated and subjected
to a great deal of comments on this list and many WMFr members are on it, I
have chosen to publish it here, the only Wikimedia list I'm still on. As
Florence Devouard, Christophe Henner, Chris Keating, Mike Peel and Itzik
Edri are also mentionned in my e-mail, it seems correct they are informed.

Sorry answer below to Samuel is in French. I am not fluent enough in
English for a quick translation and my answer is quite long. But I wanted
it to be exhaustive and accurate face to all Samuel's statements. I am
correcting many errors Samuel has made when he speaks about French labor
law, non profit associations law, HR and management to support the WMFr
board decisions. I am pointing out what I considered not ethical or wrong
past board or ED decisions. I am giving  some specific ways in which the HR
management, governance and ethics could be improved regarding my HR and
Wikimedia background and last but not least I am trying to explain to
Samuel and to the WMFr board how much they are mistaken in their
authoritarian and lack of transparency attitude and locked in a conspiracy
theory about the FDC decision.

In order to provide transparency and because I would like the Foundation
audit can go smoothly, I suggest Samuel to formaly encourage any former or
current WMFr employees to freely testify so to release them of any
confidentiality
agreement they could have signed and to formally make the commitment that
no one will undergo retaliatory measures.

As the primary recipients of my answer are WMFr members, if someone on this
list could forward my answers as many WMFr members as possible, it would be
great.

For those who do not read the beautiful French language, I will try to
translate this next few days but, regarding my burden of work, without
guarantee.

Regards.

Thierry


-

Samuel,


Ces dernières semaines, d'anciens salariés et des membres ou anciens
membres de l'association, dont certains que je ne connaissais pas, m'ont
contacté pour me demander si j'étais au courant de la situation actuelle de
Wikimédia France, savoir ce que j'en pensais et selon moi ce qu'il faudrait
faire. Si cela est flatteur d'être ainsi reconnu pour ses compétences et le
travail que j'avais accompli pour Wikimedia France au regard de mon départ
précipité fin 2012, je restais volontairement en retrait. D'abord parce que
j'étais tenu à un devoir de réserve et que je m'y suis, moi, strictement
conformé mais surtout j'avais tourné la page de Wikimédia France même si
j'avais du me retenir pour ne pas intervenir face à ce qui était