Re: [Wikimedia-l] My choice for ED

2014-02-03 Thread Tony Souter
Oh what on earth are you talking about? I have no idea who Rory is. You need to 
withdraw your libelous comment.

Tony


On 03/02/2014, at 10:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tony Souter, 01/02/2014 16:13:
 [...] totally inappropriate for choosing the executive director [...] in a 
 competitive, complex, and often negative jungle.
 
 You shouldn't be blaming Rory for her origin in the jungle. Please refrain 
 from commenting on specific candidates, especially if your comment doesn't 
 comply with WMF's HR policies.
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Non_discrimination_policy
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Pluralism,_internationalism,_and_diversity_policy
 
 Nemo
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] My choice for ED

2014-02-01 Thread Tony Souter
Folks: are we still playing with this toy? 

I've sat here and watched this discourse – variously frivolous, slightly 
insulting, and embarrassing – and said nothing in the hope it would just fizzle 
away.

But amazingly, it's still here.

We have to accept that while crowdsourcing is the genius of Wikipedia and a few 
of its sister projects, it's totally inappropriate for choosing the executive 
director of a big, prominent Foundation that lives in a competitive, complex, 
and often negative jungle. There's a bunch of reasons for doing this largely 
away from the gaze of the rest of the world. Do I really need to spell them out?

It would be good to move on to more useful and practical topics.

Tony






On 02/02/2014, at 1:32 AM, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:29 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Chad, I wonder if Rory has been considered. (:
 
 
 Given his history of biting newbies, I'm not sure he'd be in a good
 position to help solve the editor retention problem.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Annual Plan for 2013-14

2013-11-10 Thread Tony Souter
Kirill—nicely put together plan. Thanks.

T

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On 09/11/2013, at 12:48 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Wikimedia DC has released its Annual Plan for 2013-14.  The plan can be
 found on our wiki at http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_plan_(2013–2014); a
 copy will also be posted on meta shortly.
 
 As always, any comments or suggestions would be very welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 Kirill
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-29 Thread Tony Souter
This is a sadly common pattern among smaller WMF sites: a single editor or a 
group of self-supporting editors gains a foothold in the power structure and 
abuses the trust we put in admins. Just as in real life, this is typically 
accompanied by a xenophobic push, and a snowballing effect that ensures a grip 
on power. 

This degradation of the original wiki ethic is all too evident in at least one 
of the smaller English-language sites, so just what we might expect to find if 
we were to lift the linguistic veil over the many small sites in other 
languages makes one's spine shiver.

Per Nathan, yes, specifics need to be stated, and as far as possible without 
emotion ... just the facts, and as briefly as possible. 

Understandably, the Foundation will try to stay out of any community dispute 
unless it becomes so toxic it can't be ignored in an interwiki sense. However, 
I think there's a role for WMF community relations staff to advise distressed 
parties and to be made aware of major conflicts on WMF sites – aside from 
anything else, we have yet to see legal action by a party who claims to be 
injured by other editors on a site, and that's something we would all like to 
forestall.

Tony

 








On 29/10/2013, at 5:12 AM, Nathan wrote:

 Hi Dalibor,
 
 Could you describe what type of aid you are looking for, and how you think
 it fits with the overall governing ethos of Wikimedia projects? (For
 example, if you ask for WMF staff to intervene, would you argue that the
 WMF can and should intervene in project disputes when one side makes a
 request?).
 
 Thanks,
 Nathan
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