I just try and I am randomly redirected to the localize page or the WMF page…..
Le 27 nov. 2014 à 09:20, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com a écrit :
The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in
Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the
chapters page.
Rupert
On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
Just following up,
Has WMNL now received the sought information?
sincerely,
Kim Bruning
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:42:01AM +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not 100%
sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend - I
am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why the
WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they
choose
not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this, and as
Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer being
allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all
speculation.
I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there was a
few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being fed
canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that and
there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank
transfer that cannot be disclosed...
Best,
Lodewijk
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl
wrote:
To amplify:
Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires
electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the standard,
default, baseline way to make payments at all.
After registering a business, the very next action is to open an (IBAN)
account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been
converted
to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN.
If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support
IBAN.
Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or
paypal
accounts.
Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone.
iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline
requirement.
sincerely,
Kim
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote:
Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk:
you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer
(using
an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page
Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very different
from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account
to
an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where complex
and
expensive.
There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has
never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now.
The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in a
fair chunk of the globe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption
Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans ,
people
can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without
additional expenses.
Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international payments
to
an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly
not
free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation.
The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards.
Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit card.
But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used to
total other payment systems.
A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people
using
cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember my
dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a
cheque
since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History.
Extinct.
But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF -
when
you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer
made
for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so
good
to be willing to make an donation.
Walter
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