Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-05 Thread Peter Southwood 
If it was just a matter of money to keep the servers running, I would say yes, 
but if they have no editors there would not be a lot of point. We could offer 
an archive, and assimilation.
Cheers,
Peter

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Joseph Seddon
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

Is there any merit in us helping them continue to exist?

Seddon

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 10:13 PM David Gerard  wrote:

> here's the discussion:
>
> https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F
>
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:11, David Gerard  wrote:
> >
> > Front page:
> >
> > > This wiki was unsuccessful in achieving its original goals (see
> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Wikipedia-and-Citizendium).
> A dedicated few writers have continued working in the wiki, improving
> articles that they believe are useful, and which for various reasons
> probably could not be written in Wikipedia. On or about Sept. 30, 2020, we
> plan to end Citizendium as a public "open" project, yet (possibly) keep the
> wiki running and editable by a combination of donations and subscriptions.
> How this might occur is still being examined.
> >
> > Original announcement
> >
> https://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Welcome_to_Citizendium=100864611=100857010
> >
> > basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running
> out.
> >
> >
> > - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-04 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:11, David Gerard  wrote:

> basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running out.

Or, as en.Wikipedia puts it: "As of January 2019, it had 16,978
articles, of which 166 had achieved editorial approval, and around 2
contributors who made at least 1 edit in the previous month."

How's Everipedia getting on, BTW?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-04 Thread David Gerard 
Not that occurs to me. I mentioned it here mostly as a historical note
- what happened to our most widely publicised fork.

Their current plans are:

* put good content into Wikipedia
* archive a final version with the Internet Archive
* maybe set up some sort of successor


- d.

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:20, Joseph Seddon  wrote:
>
> Is there any merit in us helping them continue to exist?
>
> Seddon
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 10:13 PM David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > here's the discussion:
> >
> > https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F
> >
> > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:11, David Gerard  wrote:
> > >
> > > Front page:
> > >
> > > > This wiki was unsuccessful in achieving its original goals (see
> > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Wikipedia-and-Citizendium).
> > A dedicated few writers have continued working in the wiki, improving
> > articles that they believe are useful, and which for various reasons
> > probably could not be written in Wikipedia. On or about Sept. 30, 2020, we
> > plan to end Citizendium as a public "open" project, yet (possibly) keep the
> > wiki running and editable by a combination of donations and subscriptions.
> > How this might occur is still being examined.
> > >
> > > Original announcement
> > >
> > https://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Welcome_to_Citizendium=100864611=100857010
> > >
> > > basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running
> > out.
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-04 Thread Joseph Seddon 
Is there any merit in us helping them continue to exist?

Seddon

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 10:13 PM David Gerard  wrote:

> here's the discussion:
>
> https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F
>
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:11, David Gerard  wrote:
> >
> > Front page:
> >
> > > This wiki was unsuccessful in achieving its original goals (see
> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Wikipedia-and-Citizendium).
> A dedicated few writers have continued working in the wiki, improving
> articles that they believe are useful, and which for various reasons
> probably could not be written in Wikipedia. On or about Sept. 30, 2020, we
> plan to end Citizendium as a public "open" project, yet (possibly) keep the
> wiki running and editable by a combination of donations and subscriptions.
> How this might occur is still being examined.
> >
> > Original announcement
> >
> https://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Welcome_to_Citizendium=100864611=100857010
> >
> > basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running
> out.
> >
> >
> > - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-04 Thread David Gerard 
here's the discussion:
https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 22:11, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> Front page:
>
> > This wiki was unsuccessful in achieving its original goals (see 
> > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Wikipedia-and-Citizendium).
> >  A dedicated few writers have continued working in the wiki, improving 
> > articles that they believe are useful, and which for various reasons 
> > probably could not be written in Wikipedia. On or about Sept. 30, 2020, we 
> > plan to end Citizendium as a public "open" project, yet (possibly) keep the 
> > wiki running and editable by a combination of donations and subscriptions. 
> > How this might occur is still being examined.
>
> Original announcement
> https://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Welcome_to_Citizendium=100864611=100857010
>
> basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running out.
>
>
> - d.

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[Wikimedia-l] Citizendium shutting down

2020-07-04 Thread David Gerard 
Front page:

> This wiki was unsuccessful in achieving its original goals (see 
> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Wikipedia-and-Citizendium).
>  A dedicated few writers have continued working in the wiki, improving 
> articles that they believe are useful, and which for various reasons probably 
> could not be written in Wikipedia. On or about Sept. 30, 2020, we plan to end 
> Citizendium as a public "open" project, yet (possibly) keep the wiki running 
> and editable by a combination of donations and subscriptions. How this might 
> occur is still being examined.

Original announcement
https://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Welcome_to_Citizendium=100864611=100857010

basically - nobody's editing anything any more, and the money's running out.


- d.

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