Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talkaboutVisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread Peter Southwood

That should help, Any idea of when we can expect the change?
Cheers,
Peter

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From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Peter Southwood
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:

You could start by making the edit links permanently visible and clearly
labeled.


Yeah, I've already requested this, since it seems like an easy win.
The mouseover behavior is really not a good solution - it was an
attempt to find a compromise between ensuring continued availability
of wikitext editing for sections while reducing clutter, but it
doesn't really serve that purpose well. It makes wikitext editing
secondary, which is unreasonable, adds screen flicker, and doesn't
translate to touch devices. We've been procrastinating for too long
finding the perfect solution for this problem, when really we'll
probably just need to take a marginal clutter hit right now. We'll fix
it.

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VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talkaboutVisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Peter Southwood
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 That should help, Any idea of when we can expect the change?

Last time I discussed with Trevor he mentioned that it was a trivial
fix (we just need to remove the hover effect), so let me bug them
tomorrow :).

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