Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism, yet again

2020-04-22 Thread K. Peachey 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250508

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:53, Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It seems that they just gave a link to that website, which...eh...
> When I opened it, I heard one sentence of the stream before I stopped it
> and read the rest of the webpage: "and then we give thanks to spirit, for
> the air we breathe, for the earth..." After reading the rest of the
> webpage, I un-paused it, and am currently listening to a bit of propaganda
> promoting unions and more extensive labor laws.
>
> The linked website is explicitly political, explicitly  on the American
> left, and explicitly in favor of certain highly contentious American
> political proposals. I would like to hear the reasoning for why that link
> has been shown, and it seems to me simply unjustifiable. The WMF is the
> host of a series of community-built projects, not a political activism
> organization.
>
> Regards,
> Vermont
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:12 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I can confirm that I see the same also here in the Netherlands. Which is
> > strange, there are no general elections here before 2021...
> > An explanation about this link would be interesting.
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Mi., 22. Apr. 2020 um 22:50 Uhr schrieb Yair Rand  > >:
> >
> > > The WMF corporate site (wikimediafoundation.org) currently has a
> > > full-page ad with the text "We are watching Earth Day Live today. Will
> > > you?". This links to an external site with the text "Click here to sign
> > on
> > > to the US Youth Climate Strike Coalition Earth Day Demands - From
> > congress
> > > and the next president, we demand a People’s Bailout, a Green New Deal,
> > and
> > > Land Back for Indigenous Peoples", and prompting readers to "Pledge to
> > vote
> > > for our future" and to subscribe to "US Climate Strike".
> > >
> > > Everyone here already knows how unacceptable this is, and why, so I don't
> > > think this requires any further explanation. The WMF should immediately
> > > take this down, and make certain that this kind of thing can't happen
> > > again. They've failed yet again at preventing inappropriate
> > > political activism in WMF's communications, and must take serious action
> > to
> > > fix this constant stream of terrible failures.
> > >
> > > -- Yair Rand
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism, yet again

2020-04-22 Thread Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l 
Hi,

It seems that they just gave a link to that website, which...eh...
When I opened it, I heard one sentence of the stream before I stopped it
and read the rest of the webpage: "and then we give thanks to spirit, for
the air we breathe, for the earth..." After reading the rest of the
webpage, I un-paused it, and am currently listening to a bit of propaganda
promoting unions and more extensive labor laws.

The linked website is explicitly political, explicitly  on the American
left, and explicitly in favor of certain highly contentious American
political proposals. I would like to hear the reasoning for why that link
has been shown, and it seems to me simply unjustifiable. The WMF is the
host of a series of community-built projects, not a political activism
organization.

Regards,
Vermont

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:12 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello,
> I can confirm that I see the same also here in the Netherlands. Which is
> strange, there are no general elections here before 2021...
> An explanation about this link would be interesting.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am Mi., 22. Apr. 2020 um 22:50 Uhr schrieb Yair Rand  >:
>
> > The WMF corporate site (wikimediafoundation.org) currently has a
> > full-page ad with the text "We are watching Earth Day Live today. Will
> > you?". This links to an external site with the text "Click here to sign
> on
> > to the US Youth Climate Strike Coalition Earth Day Demands - From
> congress
> > and the next president, we demand a People’s Bailout, a Green New Deal,
> and
> > Land Back for Indigenous Peoples", and prompting readers to "Pledge to
> vote
> > for our future" and to subscribe to "US Climate Strike".
> >
> > Everyone here already knows how unacceptable this is, and why, so I don't
> > think this requires any further explanation. The WMF should immediately
> > take this down, and make certain that this kind of thing can't happen
> > again. They've failed yet again at preventing inappropriate
> > political activism in WMF's communications, and must take serious action
> to
> > fix this constant stream of terrible failures.
> >
> > -- Yair Rand
> > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism, yet again

2020-04-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk 
Hello,
I can confirm that I see the same also here in the Netherlands. Which is
strange, there are no general elections here before 2021...
An explanation about this link would be interesting.
Kind regards
Ziko






Am Mi., 22. Apr. 2020 um 22:50 Uhr schrieb Yair Rand :

> The WMF corporate site (wikimediafoundation.org) currently has a
> full-page ad with the text "We are watching Earth Day Live today. Will
> you?". This links to an external site with the text "Click here to sign on
> to the US Youth Climate Strike Coalition Earth Day Demands - From congress
> and the next president, we demand a People’s Bailout, a Green New Deal, and
> Land Back for Indigenous Peoples", and prompting readers to "Pledge to vote
> for our future" and to subscribe to "US Climate Strike".
>
> Everyone here already knows how unacceptable this is, and why, so I don't
> think this requires any further explanation. The WMF should immediately
> take this down, and make certain that this kind of thing can't happen
> again. They've failed yet again at preventing inappropriate
> political activism in WMF's communications, and must take serious action to
> fix this constant stream of terrible failures.
>
> -- Yair Rand
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[Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism, yet again

2020-04-22 Thread Yair Rand 
The WMF corporate site (wikimediafoundation.org) currently has a
full-page ad with the text "We are watching Earth Day Live today. Will
you?". This links to an external site with the text "Click here to sign on
to the US Youth Climate Strike Coalition Earth Day Demands - From congress
and the next president, we demand a People’s Bailout, a Green New Deal, and
Land Back for Indigenous Peoples", and prompting readers to "Pledge to vote
for our future" and to subscribe to "US Climate Strike".

Everyone here already knows how unacceptable this is, and why, so I don't
think this requires any further explanation. The WMF should immediately
take this down, and make certain that this kind of thing can't happen
again. They've failed yet again at preventing inappropriate
political activism in WMF's communications, and must take serious action to
fix this constant stream of terrible failures.

-- Yair Rand
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