Re: [Wikimedia-l] WG: Invitation to Chapters and Photographers for the European Parliament Project 2014

2014-01-03 Thread geni
On 3 January 2014 16:22, Olaf Kosinsky olaf.kosin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Happy New Year to Everyone!

 After the holidays I'd like to make another approach to you and your
 chapters about Wikipedians in the European Parliament.

 * have you already forwarded this invitation to your local community?


I expect that has been done


 * has you chapter already decided about supporting volunteers participating
 in this project?


Sending people to Brussels and Strasbourg for reasons other than to lobby
on IP issues is not a good use of WMF donors money. You want 766 photos
total. Find one person in Brussels (not Strasbourg even the majority of
MEPs accept that Strasbourg is a bad idea at this point) and give them
whatever support they need to get the photos.



 * have you - if you are interested - already signed up for participation?



Of course not. Strasbourg is several hundred miles away across the English
channel.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WG: Invitation to Chapters and Photographers for the European Parliament Project 2014

2014-01-03 Thread Jon Davies
Could actually being there in front of UK MEP's could be one very effective
way of bringing our influence to bear?
Jon
PS Strasbourg slightly closer to London than Edinburgh!


On 3 January 2014 17:19, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 January 2014 16:22, Olaf Kosinsky olaf.kosin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Happy New Year to Everyone!
 
  After the holidays I'd like to make another approach to you and your
  chapters about Wikipedians in the European Parliament.
 
  * have you already forwarded this invitation to your local community?
 

 I expect that has been done


  * has you chapter already decided about supporting volunteers
 participating
  in this project?
 

 Sending people to Brussels and Strasbourg for reasons other than to lobby
 on IP issues is not a good use of WMF donors money. You want 766 photos
 total. Find one person in Brussels (not Strasbourg even the majority of
 MEPs accept that Strasbourg is a bad idea at this point) and give them
 whatever support they need to get the photos.



  * have you - if you are interested - already signed up for participation?
 


 Of course not. Strasbourg is several hundred miles away across the English
 channel.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WG: Invitation to Chapters and Photographers for the European Parliament Project 2014

2014-01-03 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Geni,

Am 03.01.2014 18:19, schrieb geni:
 On 3 January 2014 16:22, Olaf Kosinsky olaf.kosin...@gmail.com wrote:

[...]

 * has you chapter already decided about supporting volunteers participating
 in this project?

 
 Sending people to Brussels and Strasbourg for reasons other than to lobby
 on IP issues is not a good use of WMF donors money.

that is your opinion, so are you already a member of the EU policy
advocacy group?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy

 You want 766 photos
 total. Find one person in Brussels (not Strasbourg even the majority of
 MEPs accept that Strasbourg is a bad idea at this point) and give them
 whatever support they need to get the photos.

well,
a) the minimum is 1,000
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants_talk%3APEG%2FOlaf_Kosinsky%2FWikipedians_in_European_Parliamentdiff=6895596oldid=6895104)

b) the EP has invited us to Strasbourg (not Brussels) as that is the
place where the MEPs will be available for us

c) one person is not enough, according to various calculations you need
about 45 people to deal with all those MEPs in a short time (remember
they are only available in a short timeframe, after the deliberations)
This calculation has been done by people who are more experienced than
me with this, as they already did 15 such projects since 2009:
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants_talk%3APEG%2FOlaf_Kosinsky%2FWikipedians_in_European_Parliamentdiff=6879964oldid=6879832)
...and by the way, this project does exactly this: Get enough people at
the time and place where all the MEPs are and get them what they need.


/Manuel
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